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Your ignorance of history is amazing

No

Even if you somehow don’t see racism and slavery in it, it’s a clear and unambiguous symbol of treason.

This flag killed more Americans than any other in history.

Robert E. Lee’s advice was sound but sadly fell on deaf ears beginning a couple decades after his death.

Planned Parent hood killed more, go protest that

First you need to convince me to see this issue differently than 9 Supreme Court justices and the majority of the American public.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

Matter of fact, don’t bother. Let’s not derail this thread any further. Wanna talk about abortion, make a meme about it.

Today’s topic is the Confederate flag! Discuss.

A period of our history when Jim Crow, the KKK, and lynching were at their apex.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments

If you don’t see the inherent racism in these tributes to a treasonous movement for the preservation of slavery, then I’m doubtful you’ll see inherent racism in anything.

And yeah, we don’t need statues to remember history. It’s why we don’t build statues of Hitler and Stalin here.

Lol, what a load of crap, the war of northern aggression was fought because Confederate states refused to bow down to an all powerful and controlling central government (same goals as the never Trumpers). They wanted to control their own destiny, the same goals I have seen BLM members ask for this week on the talk shows. The BLM should stand side by side with the stars and bars. One banner doesn't hide the other, having pride is not racist but trying to crush someones elses is.

In Russia they call World War II the “Great Patriotic War.” Not a bad name, honestly. They earned it through the immense sacrifices they endured on the Eastern Front.

If Nazi Germany had won WWII, I’m sure they would have thought of a grand ol’ title.

Now: Persisting in calling the Civil War the “war of northern aggression” 160 years after the fact is the height of skewed revisionist lunacy.

You really don’t need to fight these battles on Robert E. Lee’s or anyone else’s behalf. He laid down his arms and urged future generations to “not bring up their sons to detest the US government” (see meme above).

The only reason we even have these monuments today is that future generations went against Lee’s wishes.

I have at least once ancestor I know of who fought on the side of the Confederacy. I visited his grave at the Battle of Franklin. I thought about it. I paid respects.

But I don’t wave the rebel flag, and I really just like the American flag and what it stands for a whole lot more.

Don’t we all?

Truth be told, I have never owned or flown a Confederate flag but I respect history and hate to see it abused because people are to lazy to view it from the perspective of the people that lived during those times. The attempt to shame southerners is racist, calling them traitors and other such nonsense would be the same as someone making the claim that the last time blacks were happy was when they where slaves, no riots, protests or activist groups of any size. They were all happy except for a few traitorous ones that were kidnapped by an activist group known as the underground railroad. It is really that easy to bend history to fit political agendas. That is the real issue here. Censorship in any form is hate speech, no one has the right to tell others that they can not honor their history or how to feel about it.

The real truth is much more complex, people were drafted, forced and paid to fight (on both sides), the average white male was no more educated than the black soldiers that fought on both sides. I have met black families that honored their Confederate soldiers, I can respect that. The people in the day saw them as rebels and not a one lost their US citizenship, they were American soldiers and I can respect that. I have to admit that I was shocked the first time I saw a group of black men flying what some consider a Confederate battle flag but I could tell they were not fooling, they were proud to be southern men, I can respect that.