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Immortal Words | VIOLENCE AS A WAY OF ACHIEVING RACIAL JUSTICE IS BOTH IMPRACTICAL AND IMMORAL. I AM NOT UNMINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT VIOLENCE OFTEN BRINGS ABOUT MOMENTARY RESULTS. NATIONS HAVE FREQUENTLY WON THEIR INDEPENDENCE IN BATTLE. BUT IN SPITE OF TEMPORARY VICTORIES, VIOLENCE NEVER BRINGS PERMANENT PEACE. IT SOLVES NO SOCIAL PROBLEM: IT MERELY CREATES NEW AND MORE COMPLICATED ONES. VIOLENCE IS IMPRACTICAL BECAUSE IT IS A DESCENDING SPIRAL ENDING IN DESTRUCTION FOR ALL. IT IS IMMORAL BECAUSE IT SEEKS TO HUMILIATE THE OPPONENT RATHER THAN WIN HIS UNDERSTANDING: IT SEEKS TO ANNIHILATE RATHER THAN CONVERT. VIOLENCE IS IMMORAL BECAUSE IT THRIVES ON HATRED RATHER THAN LOVE. IT DESTROYS COMMUNITY AND MAKES BROTHERHOOD IMPOSSIBLE. IT LEAVES SOCIETY IN MONOLOGUE RATHER THAN DIALOGUE. VIOLENCE ENDS UP DEFEATING ITSELF. IT CREATES BITTERNESS IN THE SURVIVORS AND BRUTALITY IN THE DESTROYERS. | image tagged in martin luther king jr,violence begets violence | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
587 views 4 upvotes Made by Moorningstar 5 years ago in politics
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4 ups, 5y,
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1 up, 5y,
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Fact check: MLK was murdered/assassinated on April 4, 1968. Per WIki: The legislation had been proposed by President John F. Kennedy in June 1963, but opposed by filibuster in the Senate. After Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963, President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed the bill forward. The United States House of Representatives passed the bill on February 10, 1964, and after a 54-day filibuster, passed the United States Senate on June 19, 1964. The Act was signed into law by President Johnson at the White House on July 2, 1964 after the House of Representatives agreed to a subsequent Senate amendment to the bill passed the same day Johnson signed the bill into law. (Note that.)
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2 ups, 5y,
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You don't know what the CRA of 1968 was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

That was lame, "fact checking" on something you didn't know about.
2 ups, 5y,
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I did think about posting the Wiki link but I couldn't be bothered with the likely ensuing 'Bias tantrum'.
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2 ups, 5y,
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I know, it's one of their favorites - but there's no bias in saying "there existed a thing in 1968 also called the Civil Rights Act, you ass". If there are things in the article they want to nitpick that's fine, but it doesn't change the more basic fact of the matter.
2 ups, 5y
Yeah, I mean, they can try twisting the narrative but they can't ignore the facts.
0 ups, 5y,
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How is that "lame?" Because I didn't twist a timeline of events to support a inaccurate tweet JRBobDobbs posted? Absurd.
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2 ups, 5y,
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Don't be that way. There's nothing wrong with the tweet - you just didn't know what it was talking about. I made that very clear and if you keep pretending not to understand me, you're just being obtuse.
0 ups, 5y,
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I'm not commenting on your original comment adding the extra except from the speech. I was only criticizing the tweet in question.
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2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
F**king hell, what is wrong with you?
0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
LOL!
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1 up, 5y,
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Ok. So, understand why it was a bit silly to correct a comment you yourself didn't understand?
1 up, 5y,
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Mine was to not increase the image size originally.
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2 ups, 5y
Of course we all make mistakes - but when someone points out your mistake, that's your opportunity to listen and learn instead of insisting you were right.
0 ups, 5y
It implies it took all of six days to get a bill passed. It did not. It did get the Senate to stop it's political infighting to get something done, as you have agreed with me about.
0 ups, 5y,
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My initial point regarding the tweet would still be valid. The tweet implies that riots sparked by MLK's assassination caused an act to be passed in a week. The process took more than a year. That would be getting the cause-effect timeline incorrect. That I had the wrong CRA act in mind initially is an error I'm willing to accede to.
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2 ups, 5y
You're doing it AGAIN! Use your internet to look it up and learn: enacted 11th April, 1968, and MLK Jr was shot 4th April, 1968.
0 ups, 5y,
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Enacted, yes. But it was INTRODUCED in the house in Jan. 1967. Do you not know how government works and bills are passed?
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2 ups, 5y
I'm out of patience. I really am. The bill was stalled indefinitely in the Senate, but during the riots following MLK's death, the Senate reactivated it and rushed it through in 7 days for no other reason than because of the riots WHICH IS WHAT THE TWEET IS TRYING TO GO***MN TELL YOU.
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3 ups, 5y
From the same speech:

"The struggle to eliminate the evil of racial injustice constitutes one of the major struggles of our time. The present upsurge of the Negro people of the United States grows out of a deep and passionate determination to make freedom and equality a reality “here” and “now”. In one sense the civil rights movement in the United States is a special American phenomenon which must be understood in the light of American history and dealt with in terms of the American situation. But on another and more important level, what is happening in the United States today is a relatively small part of a world development.

"We live in a day, says the philosopher Alfred North Whitehead,”when civilization is shifting its basic outlook: a major turning point in history where the presuppositions on which society is structured are being analyzed, sharply challenged, and profoundly changed.” What we are seeing now is a freedom explosion, the realization of “an idea whose time has come”, to use Victor Hugo’s phrase. The deep rumbling of discontent that we hear today is the thunder of disinherited masses, rising from dungeons of oppression to the bright hills of freedom, in one majestic chorus the rising masses singing, in the words of our freedom song, “Ain’t gonna let nobody turn us around.” All over the world, like a fever, the freedom movement is spreading in the widest liberation in history. The great masses of people are determined to end the exploitation of their races and land. They are awake and moving toward their goal like a tidal wave. You can hear them rumbling in every village street, on the docks, in the houses, among the students, in the churches, and at political meetings. Historic movement was for several centuries that of the nations and societies of Western Europe out into the rest of the world in “conquest” of various sorts. That period, the era of colonialism, is at an end. East is meeting West. The earth is being redistributed. Yes, we are “shifting our basic outlooks”."
2 ups, 5y
Good to see other people have the counter-perspective covered

Here's another good one from the late MLK.
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    VIOLENCE AS A WAY OF ACHIEVING RACIAL JUSTICE IS BOTH IMPRACTICAL AND IMMORAL. I AM NOT UNMINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT VIOLENCE OFTEN BRINGS ABOUT MOMENTARY RESULTS. NATIONS HAVE FREQUENTLY WON THEIR INDEPENDENCE IN BATTLE. BUT IN SPITE OF TEMPORARY VICTORIES, VIOLENCE NEVER BRINGS PERMANENT PEACE. IT SOLVES NO SOCIAL PROBLEM: IT MERELY CREATES NEW AND MORE COMPLICATED ONES. VIOLENCE IS IMPRACTICAL BECAUSE IT IS A DESCENDING SPIRAL ENDING IN DESTRUCTION FOR ALL. IT IS IMMORAL BECAUSE IT SEEKS TO HUMILIATE THE OPPONENT RATHER THAN WIN HIS UNDERSTANDING: IT SEEKS TO ANNIHILATE RATHER THAN CONVERT. VIOLENCE IS IMMORAL BECAUSE IT THRIVES ON HATRED RATHER THAN LOVE. IT DESTROYS COMMUNITY AND MAKES BROTHERHOOD IMPOSSIBLE. IT LEAVES SOCIETY IN MONOLOGUE RATHER THAN DIALOGUE. VIOLENCE ENDS UP DEFEATING ITSELF. IT CREATES BITTERNESS IN THE SURVIVORS AND BRUTALITY IN THE DESTROYERS.