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How devastating is COVID -19 compared to past flu pandemics? Apparently not as bad as some of the ones in the past.

How devastating is COVID -19 compared to past flu pandemics?  Apparently not as bad as some of the ones in the past. | SPANISH FLU; 0.65%; 1918-
1919; H1N1; 103,208,000; 675,000; 0.07%; H2N2; 1956-
1958; 172,000,000; 116,000; ASIAN FLU; HONG KONG FLU; 0.05%; 1968-
1969; H3N2; 100,000; 200,700,000; INFLUENZA A/B; 325,100,000; 80,000; 0.02%; H3N2; 2017-
2018; 2020 SARS-COV-2 (CORONAVIRUS); 0.03%; 331,000,000; 93,000; * KNOWING THAT THE COVID NUMBERS ARE INFLATED; THE TRUE DEATH RATE % SHOULD BE BELOW; 0.02% | image tagged in coronavirus,covid is like the flu,sars-cov-2,flu virus,pandemic,influenza | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
2,898 views 18 upvotes Made by gearhead76 5 years ago in politics
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1 up, 5y,
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We don't know the final fatality rate, so it's best to forgo the population in the calculation. Right now, it has a fatality rate of 6% among those infected. If 80% of the population is infected, that is a final fatality rate of 4.8%.

It would be ideal if we allow the virus to let it run it's course with minimum exposure, find an effective way to treat it, or develop a vaccine. The people it effects most won't benefit from herd immunity. About 6% of them will die.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
You sir, are a COMPLETE asshole. A moron and misinformed propaganda spreading minion to boot.
0 ups, 4y
First off, hello!

Secondly, this was 2 months ago, so the information is already outdated.

Thirdly, if someone posts misinformation, do what I do. Correct them. If you just call them a moron, they may get upset. However, as I am probably not a moron, nor am I a complete asshole; I'd much rather be informed than spread misinformation and propaganda.

I believe someone who was programmed by such things would be prone to emotional outbursts instead of actually arguing their point.
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1 up, 5y,
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To calculate the mortality rate for a disease, you divide the number of deaths by the number of infected, not the total population. Dividing the deaths by population unsurprisingly tells you what percent of the total population died of the disease, which is not a rate at all.

During an active pandemic, we don't know whether active cases will recover or die, so in order to calculate mortality rates we have to look at closed cases - for the United States, that means 370,057 recovered, 94,918 dead, a total of 464,975 closed.

94,918 / 464,975 = .204 for an average mortality rate of 20.4%.

This of course is higher than reality because our testing has been concentrated among symptomatic patients in need of hospitalization, but for nations who haven't utterly botched their responses, the average rate for COVID-19 is 6%.
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2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Somehow, you've discovered fake math to go along with your fake news. Congrats.
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2 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Those are literally the official numbers from the administration.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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1 up, 5y,
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Throwing numbers you don't understand together to create a fallacy is still fake math.
You have the comprehension of a 6th grader.
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2 ups, 5y,
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Am I expected to take offense at the impotent insults of the innumerate? Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what you cheer for.
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1 up, 5y,
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I really don't care if you take offense or not, you don't matter.
Not when you display such flawed analytical gibberish as information to be taken seriously.
I've seen your posts, too. Not a fan.
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1 up, 5y
I appreciate the compliment.
0 ups, 4y
Shut your f**king stupid, liberal, fear mongering, lying f**k mouth. You mother f**king c**t.
1 up, 5y,
1 reply
According to the CDC we have 1,528,235 cases and according to worldometers we have 1,593,039 cases... it's deaths divided by cases not closed cases with an outcome. Which makes the fatality rate closer to 5.99%, or 6%.
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2 ups, 5y
That works if you assume all the active cases will recover with no deaths.

Realistically expect to see a comparable mortality rate among the open cases as we've seen among the closed, but as I stated before our numbers are artificially high due to lack of available tests.

It's likely we're seeing a mortality rate in the 6-10% range, but we really wont know until after the pandemic ends and we can consider the entire body of evidence.
0 ups, 4y
Those leftist minions WHO are caught in this HoaxSpell, need serious help and a good ass kicking. FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! MASK! MASK! MASK! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! IDIOT MINION SHEEP!!!
0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Fake news:

"Mortality Rate (23k / 8.4M = 0.28% CMR to date) and Probability of Dying

As of May 1, 23,430 people are estimated to have died out of a total population of 8,398,748 in New York City. This corresponds to a 0.28% crude mortality rate to date, or 279 deaths per 100,000 population, or 1 death every 358 people. Note that the Crude Mortality Rate will continue to increase as more infections and deaths occur (see notes under the paragraph "Herd Immunity" below for details)."
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0 ups, 4y
You can always tell who didn't pay attention in math by what they choose as the denominator.

Dividing by the whole population doesn't give you a rate, just the percent of the population that's died so far.
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1 up, 5y,
1 reply
So let's keep it that way.
1 up, 5y,
1 reply
That would seem ideal and I would love to agree but reality and nature don't work that way. In order for human beings to beat viruses like COVID/SARS and influenza we unfortunately have to get as much exposure to it as possible.
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1 up, 5y
No! We don't have enough doctors and hospital beds for everyone to get sick at the same time! We have to control the exposure so that it stays within our medical capacity otherwise people die!
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SPANISH FLU; 0.65%; 1918- 1919; H1N1; 103,208,000; 675,000; 0.07%; H2N2; 1956- 1958; 172,000,000; 116,000; ASIAN FLU; HONG KONG FLU; 0.05%; 1968- 1969; H3N2; 100,000; 200,700,000; INFLUENZA A/B; 325,100,000; 80,000; 0.02%; H3N2; 2017- 2018; 2020 SARS-COV-2 (CORONAVIRUS); 0.03%; 331,000,000; 93,000; * KNOWING THAT THE COVID NUMBERS ARE INFLATED; THE TRUE DEATH RATE % SHOULD BE BELOW; 0.02%