Enough already- everyone is essential. End the Lock Down!

https://stoppingsocialism.com/2020/01/scientific-communism/ nice

That's a great website, https://stoppingsocialism.com/ but unfortunately the link didn't take me to the page you linked to. I tried searching for "scientific-communism/ nice" and it showed one result which is an article called I Survived Communism. Everyone needs to read that one. You'll actually see a tab in the meme to that article. ;<)

sorry i should've made it more clear the link was https://stoppingsocialism.com/2020/01/scientific-communism/

Thank you! If 1000 snowflakes read it, 1 might get it. Playing the odds.

Lol, so Corporal Klinger? How many times are you going to attempt to troll me back to your meme?
Isn’t it time to Whack off or something?

Active cases will continue to increase on this graph- take a close look, it's the total number of cases. The chart below it gives a better indication of what is actively going on.

I'm pretty certain the total cases graph is above the daily new cases one. The one I posted is the active cases graph, which is below the daily new cases one.

Take a look at the website again, they break it down to total and daily new on both cases and deaths. The total cases and death categories can do nothing but but go up until there are zero additional cases. The daily totals indicate the trend line. As more tests are done the total number of cases is going to go up, what is missing is how many required hospitalization. From the best information I can find that seems to be running at about 3% of confirmed cases. I had this in January, and it only became apparent when they released the last 6 symptoms. I had the intense headache. I had the persistent cough for 3 months. I had the uncontrollable shaking and fever, all around Jan 7. As I talk to people about this, it's obvious thousands of people were in the same situation. Then it was a bug, now it's instant death. FYI, I am high risk, over 60, extreme asthma, highly prone to pneumonia. I was low energy for months, then very suddenly I felt normal about the time the nation was peaking.

If all you care for are meme points, that by the way, have nothing to do with Real life?Almost take pity on you

That's all true, but as I said before, there's also an active cases graph, which can go down. And it isn't going down as long as the rate of infection exceeds the rate of recovery.

It's unfortunate that you were infected with the coronavirus, and you seem to have recovered nicely. But the coronavirus infection seems to vary with individuals, and one person's account of their battle with it isn't going to help anyone else, nor their loved ones if that person dies, no offense.

Thanks. Just a quick question, not trying to imply anything. Do you have education or training with statistics and probability?

Not formally, no.

Okay, I'm not trying to talk down to you, you seem to be earnestly seeking the truth. From a statistics point of view, there are a lot of flaws with the numbers that will self correct to a point as more numbers come in. To be able to analyze anything you need a clean baseline, which in situations like this would involve a randomized, weighted sample. To do that, we needed a sample of probably 10,000 to 25,000 randomly sampled participants, weighted or proportioned to reflect age, race, socio-economic factors and the list could go on to all kinds of variables, like underlying conditions, etc. We don't have that so we really have no idea, for example, what % of the obese population tests, negative, positive or has antibodies indicating they had it and recovered. We don't know how many people had it and were asymptomatic.
What we do know is strictly about those who had symptoms that indicated a test was indicated. We don't have data on how many tests have come back negative, but we do have data on how many tested positive. That number will increase and not go to zero by the methodology of the charts we've talked about. With limited information, the best indicator is what is happening with the daily new cases and daily new deaths which are generally trending in a favorable direction. The daily new cases can be misleading because we aren't getting relevant data on number of cases requiring hospitalization- it's not 100%. Many small community hospitals in the west are recording 1-200 positive tests with 5-20 hospitalizations.
One way we can put this in perspective is to divide how many people have died by population, the latest mortality at 83,366 population estimated at 327 million which equals .00025. Just to make sure I'm clear.01 is 1% .001 is 1/10th of 1% .0001 is 1/100th of 1%, so we have 25/1000ths of the population has died. If we double the mortality we are still at 50/1000ths of the population. A week ago it was 18/1000ths, so we can see a reasonable view of what is happening and establish a trend. Same methodology we see that 4/10ths of 1% have tested positive, with no idea how many required hospitalization.
This is real rudimentary, it will take months for the numbers to be crunched, weighted and random samples to be developed, so there is some peril in making assessments based on what we have. The key is to determine which numbers are better indicators of trends and use those until better data is compiled. I hope this helps. Too many people (cont)

think that if you contract COVID-19 it is an automatic death sentence, and it isn't. The numbers won't show that for a while. Thanks for being open about ways to analyze this, you probably have thought of some other numbers to crunch and get a clearer view, I'd appreciate seeing them if you do.

True, getting COVID-19 isn't a death sentence. But it seems like too many other people are downplaying the lethality of the virus, and suggesting that it is merely "some flu", when it clearly isn't. Also, bear in mind that most of the population has avoided being infected, thus it seems more useful to calculate the death rate by deaths to infected, not deaths to total population.

I can't agree with your meme's stance that the "Wuhan Flu" is "over" until the disease stops spreading, or until the virus is "pinned down" to a point where the risk of infection is negligible. Though I do agree that there is a definite lack of information currently about the true nature of how far the pandemic has progressed in the U.S., every time there is a daily new case at all, the virus has another host from which to spread to more hosts, thus leading to potentially more hospitalizations and deaths. As long as there isn't an effective treatment or vaccine, I think most people will be reluctant to return to normal activities and work, lockdown or not.

Having said all of that, I do thank you for being a more civil debater than some in the politics stream have been. :-)

I was just looking at the projections on worldometer and the daily infections and testing graph is interesting. Compares projected to actual numbers. They just added

Sorry, bumped post, just added Hospital Resource Use, but it's all projections for now. As they get hard data, that will help give a clear picture of what happened. The hospital my wife works for is facing bankruptcy after ramping up for 100% covid care and ending elective surgeries. It's just a small community hospital and it's going to take years to regain solvency they had. I think of 100 beds they had 11 covid patients.
And I agree on the civil debate, thank you, I can learn from anyone who wants to be civil, but I confess to going full jerk on the inflexible know it all clods who just puke aspersions.

I guess the frustration for me is that I worked as an essential worker through all of this safely (after I already had it of course, before it was on the radar) with thousands of others. If we could do it, most other businesses could have been working too, well within the guidelines. Every other time we've gone through similar situations in my lifetime, we quarantined the sick (smallpox, polio) isolated the vulnerable and monitored the healthy. I'm not sure why they radically changed those conventions, unless they feared this was actually an engineered virus.
The supply chain is so intricate and extensive that I saw a lot of it drying up 6 weeks ago, and now it is showing up in the essential supply chain.