Any conservatives here got the stones to admit they still get their coronavirus info from Trump, and trust it?

I’m happy I can provide some comic relief in these dark days, and that I have even managed to convince some that I’m a paid mouthpiece for the powers-that-be

But in reality: I don’t have that much power, sorry.

Save your complaints for the man in the White House and, if that doesn’t work, the Big Man upstairs.

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You will probably protest your stream is all about “debunking Leftism,” right?

Nah. If it was, it’d look a lot more like this: imgflip.com/m/Cringe_Left

Good time to mention you’ve called repeatedly for the deletion of my streams and my entire account: unsuccessfully, obviously

Don’t pretend you’re above it all now!

Looks like she wasn’t wearing a bra in this photograph (must have been a hippie thing), so I went ahead and covered her up with a couple well-placed objects on her chest for your benefit, as well as the benefit of any young impressionable ImgFlippers following along: and if you squint really hard, you can maybe see what they are and hazard a guess as to why I chose them

But anyone who wants to see the original photo can just search all memes for “Carly Simon” or “you’re so vain”

It’s not that exciting

First Carly Simon meme template on ImgFlip: you’re welcome, y’all

Is anything from this weekend going into the Even_Cringier stream?

Most people use common sense.
We all, and I mean WE ALL, listen to what Trump says. That doesn't mean we blindly do everything he says or suggests. Most have listened to and followed the advice that he has spoken of, that advice given to him by either Fauci or Brix or both.
The disinfectant brouhaha is just that...brouhaha and fodder for the morons who think they are either being "cute" or "edgy" or are out and out shills for the DNC.

But wait: is it the truth? How do you know?

I guess your definition of “the truth” is whatever feels most comfortable to you.

Color me surprised

Kyliefan Three Weeks Ago: I put no stock in the shifting sands of public opinion.

Kyliefan Today: Public opinion has swayed and now I want to put stock in it

And once again we see the dubious nature of Kyliefan's inherent twat waffleness

No contradiction detected! My opinion about Trump’s response was the same then as it is now. Only now, more think my way.

I put stock in what the President says and does: and I can only assume these other folks do, too.

Or: maybe they are all lemmings following a media narrative, and are just as brainwashed as the President’s remaining hardest-of-hardcore of supporters clinging to the counter-narrative. We’ll never know!

Either way: Polls are cash money. We live in a democracy, after all.

"I prefer to base my assessment for Trump’s performance on objective measures rather than the shifting sands of what other people think." - KylieF*g (Super Twat Waffle)

Yeah: and that’s exactly what I haven’t done here.

Because my own opinion of Trump has stayed grounded in objective measures throughout this crisis.

I’ve highlighted a poll that shows more are thinking the same way as me. Interesting stuff!

You don’t like it and, as a Trump supporter, that’s predictable.

Hope this helps.

Again, intentional attempt distracting from your contradiction.

You said you don't care about polls and what they say, but here you are quoting a poll. People who don't care what polls say don't bother posting polls.

I'm not questioning your opinion on Trump's response. Show me where is did. Pro Tip, Twat Waffle: you won't be able to find it.

No position I’ve ever taken on ImgFlip is inconsistent with me citing polls, which are a reflection of where the country’s opinions are at.

All I said is is that I don’t look at polls to form my own opinions. Which I still stand by, of course. Because changing with the wind would be dumb and intellectually inconsistent.

Sorry you’re either incapable of grasping this distinction, or upset today by the realization that you fall in a small minority of Americans who still support the President’s response to Covid-19.

People who don't care about polls, don't take the time to read and cite polls.

I said this to you previously. As I said, you do care about public opinion but only when it agrees with you.

You gleefully cited public opinion to me a couple weeks ago in the comment thread you referenced above.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

That is all.

The Difference: I didn't question polls as the shifting sands of what other people think.

You did. You're a hypocrite who like polls one day, then the next day you say they are just shifting sands.

You're a soy boy twat waffle

This meme has perhaps never been more apt than now

Abuse? I'm just not seeing it

Reading is hard for twat waffles.

Clearly I am not talking about YOUR OPINION ON TRUMPS RESPONSE.

I am highlighting the fact you stated you don't care about polls because public opinion shifts like the sands.

But here you are CONTRADICTING YOURSELF and highlighting the shifting sands of public opinion.

Once again we all see you are incapable of an honest conversation, and you attempt to ignore yourself contradiction by trying to create a red herring.

Sad day for twat waffle numero uno

I haven’t changed my mind about Trump’s performance; others have.

I found that noteworthy enough to meme about — and apparently you did too, enough for you to comment in an irate tone!

Sad day for Trump

See you next time

you have no f**king idea where you are... you just HATE anything that don't smell like you. Rightist... lol

you just proved me RIGHT... what a moron..

You took the bait again!

Color me surprised

Who decided we don't live in a democracy?

Not even gonna quote a single passage from a single Founding Father? I thought that was your wheelhouse.

No the United States is not a democracy. It's a Republic, hence the language in the no pledge of allegiance "the republic for which it stands".

If we were a democracy, majority would rule, and we don't have that. We have Democratic processes, but that doesn't mean we have a democracy.

Get an education, twat waffle.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/413142-the-united-states-is-not-a-democracy-and-it-wasnt-meant-to-be-one

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/america-is-not-a-democracy/550931/

HISTORY- A Republic is just step#1 in becoming an authoritarian dictatorship, but after a revolution or 2, America took a different turn and Democracy was found to be more acceptable to the American public on whole. Revisionists such as yourself would LOVE to go back to slavery and facsist controls over the public. Is that your goal and wtf is wrong with your integrity? ...you deserve communism... and I hope Putin treats you well comrade. :)

Wow, where do we start with all the non- sequiturs to unpack here?

Your meme doesn't even have anything to do with the topic of democracy vs republic.

Next you go on to make unsupported claims such as a republic is just step #1 in becoming an authoritarian dictatorship. Do you have any historical evidence to support this claim?

Next you claim America took a different turn towards, yet you don't say what this turn was, specifically the changes in governmental structure.

Lastly you claim that people who rightly point out we are not democracy, are somehow seeking to reinstitute slavery.

Nothing in your rambling incoherent statement even comes close to being supported or rational. And you end it by invoking Putin of all people, who is a left wing authoritarian dictator.

1. Collection of writings by Hamilton, Madison, and John Jay
2. The Articles of Confederation were in effect

Do either of these historical reference points establish that America is not a democracy?

If so: how?

Oops, guess I spoiled your pointless rhetorical questions that could be answered by a 10 year old in 5 seconds using Google

How rude of me

Your move: where were you going with this, exactly?

Is Donald Trump wrong in his description of our country?

Yes, he is wrong. And so are you.

Is this brochure published by USCIS wrong?

Did Donald Trump's parents make a mistake?

We have Democratic processes, we are a constitutional republic.

"Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law notes that the United States exemplifies the varied nature of a constitutional republic—a country where some decisions (often local) are made by direct democratic processes, while others (often federal) are made by democratically elected representatives"

The U.S. can be, and is, both.

So if you want say the U.S. is a Republic: I have no problem with that. I wouldn’t sit here and tell you that it isn’t.

But you’re claiming that the U.S. *isn’t* a democracy. And that’s what I have a problem with.

Volokh is pretty far to the right, but I’m not sure even he would take the hard-line position that the U.S. isn’t a democracy. The passage you quoted doesn’t establish that, and in its description of local decision making processes, actually acknowledges that aspects of our system involve direct democracy.

Bahahha...what if I told you I already said this? Learn how to f**king read. I clearly said multiple times we have Democratic processes, but we are a republic. In a pure democracy we would have majority rule. We don't have that. Not in the presidential elections, and not in the legislature where the minority party has protections to prevent the majority party from running over the minority.

Bottom line: we are not a democracy. As I said countless times, but you suck at reading, we have Democratic processes. Yet, we remain a republic.

"the passage you quoted doesn’t establish that"

Look at your intellectual dishonesty. It's pathetic. You quoted Donald Trump stating the US was a democracy as if it established your claim.

Then I post a law professor who is highly regarded a constitutional expert, and all of the sudden "quotes don't establish anything "

F**k off soy boy

The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote. Some lawmaking is done this way, on the state and local levels, but it’s only a tiny fraction of all lawmaking. But we are a representative democracy, which is a form of democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/13/is-the-united-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/

That passage is the key. We don't have direct democracy, as it dictates majority rule. I've been saying this since the beginning.

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"Then I post a law professor who is highly regarded a constitutional expert, and all of the sudden 'quotes don't establish anything'"

No: all I pointed out is that the Volokh passage you quoted doesn't actually claim -- let alone conclusively establish -- that the U.S. is *not* a democracy, which is the claim you've been pushing this entire thread and have reiterated yet again. Curiously, because you again acknowledge what you call "democratic processes" of our system.

You've also set up the strawman of "direct democracy" and gleefully knocked it over again, perhaps not realizing that is just one particular form of democracy.

"Democracy" is broad enough to encompass representative systems of government just as we have here, and protections for minority parties as well.

The U.S. is a democracy. But don't take it from me, take it from the dictionary.

What authority do you rely on for the proposition that the U.S. is not a democracy?

I've never seen RETARDED actually typed out before this. Aren't you a big boy now! Mommy must be so proud of her lil man.

I find it so hilarious cite Trump, who you say is a huge idiot, but you like to cite him when the huge idiot agrees with you. Haha

Two reasons:

1. If I can find a Trump quote that supports what I say, in spite of our political differences, it's a pretty good indication that we're both right.

2. I cite Trump when I can because I know he is a more persuasive authority to you guys than HuffPo or the New York Times or whatever.

No. The only reason you cited him was because he was saying something which you believed aligned with your view.

This is the same thing you do with polls. You dismiss them as "shifting sands" when they disagree with you, but you rush to tout them when they agree with you.

It's called confirmation bias, twat waffle.

I don't believe that the U.S. is a democracy because Trump believes it's a democracy.

And yet, coming from two ends of the political spectrum, we both believe it for our own reasons, and I find that significant.

Again, intellectual dishonesty. Is this the only way you know how to have a conversation? By mistating your opponents position to a different position you are comfortable debating?

Show me where I said "you only believe the US is a democracy because Trump said so"

Pro Tip: you won't find it