#ReopenAmerica

Yeah. go back to work and court death so your billionaire masters can make more money.

Overstate much? SMH

Goes without saying. But no need to punish everyone

lock them all up and board their windows? that should do it

You might have to if everyone is out infecting each other.

I think people should try to exercise restraint and stay inside when possible still. Numbers are going down, so maybe it can be knocked out quickly.

Cannot kill everyone's future for a proven failure of lockdowns. Those at risk. Those in hot spots. Sure more precautions. General populace, it's been blown out of proportion as we've seen so clearly. Get back immediately and keep the already bigger problem from getting bigger.

As I said: Stay inside when possible.

Only in certain places. Not everywhere.

Perhaps. I don't know every area's situation. All I know is I want things to get back to normal as soon as possible. Trying to be patient though.

Yep. ASAP is the key. Should be tomorrow but sadly won’t be.

Just gotta weather the storm a little longer.

We'll see how much worse damage will have been done.

Clearly we're not seeing the numbers blown out of proportion. Quite the opposite. If anything, countries have been underplaying their numbers, like China did and are probably still doing. Remember?

States that locked down later (Florida) along the same lines as other states. Some states wisely didn’t lockdown and are barely affected. Other countries simple voluntary restrictions and are fine.

“Death” rates in USA faked by cdc fraudulent guidelines. Economy is needlessly tanking when yep it’s no worse than the flu in terms of spread and coverage. No one has once said the illness is the same as the flu.

So yeah. Lockdowns achieved nothing except hurting the country more. Hot spots need tighter controls. Everyone else does not need to be punished.

I don't think rural areas necessarily need to lockdown if there's little to no spread. I guess I can agree with that. But I haven't heard anything about the CDC committing fraud with the numbers. I don't think the country or the economy has been "hurt" as of yet... we'll know soon enough though.

This is the people exercising their right to protest. You never have a problem with Antifa and others like them when they "protest" (we all know that they don't protest so much as they riot and vandalize) you miserable hypocrite.

I have never said shit about antifa, ever.

Right? You only say shit about Trump.

Antifa are a bunch psychotic hooligans who are just looking for an excuse.

Is there a particular reason for this nonsensical show of passive aggression? Are these guys that pussified they need to bring guns to their 20 person protest?

Isn't the whole pandemic a farce blown way out of proportion?

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And of course, like your Ukraine hoax, all evidence shows that is not true.

Agree with you there.

Isn't it ironic that you, who has zero logic, use Spock in your meme?
Hell, I would think that you Democrats would want more dead...you could always "harvest" their votes.

pffft

But the lockdown, which has endangered Americans more than the virus has caused financial harm, not gain. So your comment makes no sense.

Cool story bro. Have any evidence to support that statement that hasn’t been completely refuted by the people whose job it is to plan and execute pandemic response?

Yes. The evidence of reality not your propaganda.

Do please share.

Spelled out above. Use common sense not fear mongering.

See, that's not actually evidence. It's a few statements that contain bits of truth wrapped in oversimplified spin.

You use the term "locked down" as though there are only two options: lockdown and open. In fact, there are only 13 states on comprehensive lockdowns as of 4/20 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351) and every state has some level of restriction in place. Match numbers up with when governors started issuing orders, and the curves start to flatten (Florida's didn't even begin to level out until the executive order on April 3 - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s). Not everywhere, of course, because lockdowns are only as effective as they are obeyed.

"Death rates" aren't nearly as simple as we'd like them to be (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-death-rate.html), but it's not about how deadly this thing is in the first place - it's about how humanity doesn't have any protection from it, and if everyone gets sick at the same time a lot of people will die simply because the hospitals can't treat us all at once.

It IS worse than "the flu" (which, by the way, is not just one virus, it's myriad strains of a few viruses) because there is herd immunity against most flu strains and a certain amount of predictability in what strain will hit next (the flu shot is different every year for this reason). There is no immunity for this except by getting it and your body creating its own immunity (hopefully - the jury's still out on that). Until there is a vaccine, there is no one who comes in contact with it that will escape it.

Yes, this is hurting the US economy, and yes, people are out of work and struggling to put food on the table as a result, and that's a very serious problem. However, there's a cost in human life to ending these measures. Please trust the advice of medical professionals and experts in pandemic response over that of your preferred news outlet or politician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0wdzR51_tM

Since the lockdowns have hurt the the economy and affected far more lives than the virus, they were a failure. End of discussion.

Common sense solutions like we do every year for this same type of thing (which is the valid flu comparison) should have been effected. Not mostly total shutdowns of most of the country.

The numbers have been proven suspect as non-COVID deaths are being tallied as COVID deaths (by CDC order)... so using the flawed data they can say whatever they like. Fortunately the "curves" are flattening in spite of the false figures -- which means they did long before if you used the real numbers.

Humans weren't given the chance to build their protection from it as we all got shut indoors for the most part. The chicken littles like you took to too seriously and stayed inside almost completely. Smart people like me got out, went shopping as we could, hiked... and maintained 6' distance where reasonably possible. I've yet to wear a mask and don't intend to UNLESS I visit a hospital or nursing home or someone with a true risk factor.

So yeah, it was like the flu -- just a different but equally deadly strain. But had it been handled correctly, none of this hardship needed to have occurred, except as an attempt to deliberately destroy our economy, get people more dependent on the gummint and "free" money. And to lay a groundwork for "stick together to beat this thing" nonsense that lets the fake science drive behavior. If we get another nutter liberal for president, we're going to get "climate change" used as the next excuse to enforce that religion on the country with "we all must stick together to defeat this boogeyman".

No, it's clear the lockdowns and killing of our economy had a purpose and it had nothing to do with COVID-19.

At all.

So since you're for panic reactions to a few (relatively) deaths, you'd be for lowering speed limits to 25 MPH on the highway? Outlawing all alcohol use? etc? Death happens and we as a society balance risk vs. reward and the good of the many.

This overreaction was about the "bad for the many".

Lol, “end of discussion”. Aren’t you cute, thinking you have authority because you’re SO smart (you’re an idiot).

You’re right though, it is the end of the discussion because I’m walking away. You don’t have any concept of what a lockdown is, what this disease is, what the purpose of these measures is, or what the role of government in this (or anything) is. You’re not worth my time.

I really, genuinely hope none of your older or chronically ill friends or relatives die from this. It sucks.

Sorry you confuse you with reality. You're dismissed.

If anyone close to me manages to get this and dies in spite of the overwhelming odds of that happening... my logical and rational and loving position will be the same. They won't have gotten it because the lockdowns ended early.

We cannot eliminate death, that's a reality. We mitigate risks sure, but not go into a tail spin for no good reason. The panic was initiated when they imagined from a horrible model that MILLIONS would die based on flawed data from countries nothing like us. Now we know real data and we know the lockdowns were as clearly explained to you, a failure.