Can any Covid-19 experts here on ImgFlip explain to me how our country is actually winning and everything's fine?

Yes, let's not look at this with any analysis. Nope. Let's not consider where the cases are largely focused and for the most part contained to that particular area. Let's not look at this on a population adjusted basis. Cause like you said, you're not an expert.

Indeed. Exclude NY and the Covid-19 pandemic in the U.S. and doesn't look *so* bad.

But riddle me these questions:
--Do you know of any experts who are looking at it that way?
--Is NY a part of the U.S.?
--What happens to the comparisons with other countries if you allow them to hack off their single worst-affected population center? Do you know?

I'm actually curious now. If you can show me any charts that have systematically done that, be my guest.

"Do you know of any experts who are looking at it that way?"

Clearly they are, as multiple state and federal officials outside of New York are saying May 1 will be good to reopen.

"Is NY a part of the U.S.?"

What a standard idiotic kyliefan question. Of course it is, but NY also doesn't ENCOMPASS THE USA. Meaning the country is bigger than one state and we can't shutdown everything for one state.

"What happens to the comparisons with other countries if you allow them to hack off their single worst-affected population center? Do you know?"

Well 1) I'm not suggesting we back off social distancing in NY. And 2) other countries don't have your geography. So what would happen in say, Berlin and Germany isn't a good predictor for what would happen in the USA.

Lastly, here you are again, defending social distancing, when just one comment up, you are saying it's not working.

Well, I agree Covid-19 quarantine decisions should be made locally, and that some areas should be opened back up earlier than others. Local decision-making is how the quarantines were imposed and presumably how they will be lifted.

A few days ago, Trump appeared to claim sole authority as President to re-open states for business, but I believe he's backed off of that.

This source confirms. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/16/trump-unveils-federal-guidelines-for-reopening-country/

Let's hear it for common sense!

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Chart source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/coronavirus?ocid=spartanntp

I have been avoiding coronavirus figures for a week or two, trying not to obsess over it. Well, I got curious, and that ended last night. Snap assessment? It don't look too good, chief.

It's true we have a higher population than most of those other countries (China excepted), but even accounting for that...

Their curves appear to be flattening. Our curve really isn't, despite all the efforts and sacrifices we're making.

More and more people are getting antsy and understandably starting to talk about re-opening soon, but are we really going to be in a position to do that? If so, when?

What's going on?

We're already at 34,617 deaths, according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I have a feeling that optimistic "60,000 deaths by August" projection of just last week is due to be revised upward soon...

Kyliefan Today: "Their curves appear to be flattening. Our curve really isn't, despite all the efforts and sacrifices we're making."

Kyliefan Yesterday: "And those measures are proving more effective than expected.

Hence the new revised projected death toll of 60,000 rather than the 100,000-240,000 originally predicted"

So yesterday, social distancing was our savior and was taking curve lower, but today social distancing sacrifices aren't doing the job.

Kyliefan needs medication and professional counseling.

Facts are changing on the ground, and my analysis changes based on that. So do the experts'.

While I'd like to believe deaths will level off at 60,000 by August, having checked the figures yesterday, I'm less optimistic that is ultimately going to be the case.

If the pandemic is still active in this country and we don't have a cure by then, we may have to be practicing social distancing for longer than we'd hoped.

We'll see.

In the meantime, if you have a plan to combat this other than social distancing, let me know.

Well daily number changes, but the TREND LINE IS STILL DOWN.

So no, "the facts haven't changed".

Can't wait to see your next contradiction

Cases are up, trend line is down. I agree

Why is that?

Is social distancing working?

"Cases are, trend line is down. I agree"

Earlier you said "our curve is not flattening"

Can you try, just a little bit harder, to be consistent.

What I actually wrote above was: "Their curves appear to be flattening. Our curve really isn't"

But if you squint *really* hard on the chart I posted, you can just about make out that our infection rates are falling. Not as much as some of the other countries, but a little bit.

My point is we're still the least "flattened" of them all, and I want to know why. Are we still doing something wrong in our response? If so, what?

If the curve isn't flattening then the trend wouldn't be going down from 2,000,000 to 200,000 to 100,000 to 60,000 deaths.

I never said it wasn't working. I said it's not the sole factor for the trend downwards. My position hasn't changed.

Yours meanwhile, well let's just say that being consistency isn't a strong trait.