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Young Socialists | YOUNG SOCIALISTS? ASK YOURSELF, "WHY DO PEOPLE IN CUBA AND VENEZUELA GO WITHOUT MEDICINE, WHILE THEIR LEADERS LIVE IN LUXURY?  WHY DID ALMOST ALL SOCIALIST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD DUMP THE SYSTEM ABOUT 20-YEARS AGO?" | image tagged in politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
274 views 9 upvotes Made by LarryCaird 5 years ago in politics
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cheers christopher walken | AT LEAST YOU'RE CONSISTENT LARRY CHEERS | image tagged in cheers christopher walken | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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My post is also "accurate." I would rather be consistenly accurate, than otherwise.
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Ron White | IF BY "ACCURATE" YOU MEAN CHERRY PICKING AND SELECTIVE EDITING. THEN...SURE. | image tagged in ron white | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Weak. The weakest retort I have seen in a long time. But, consistent.
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and accurate
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You forgot to capitalize, use a comma and a period. But, what the hell? Have a great wekend.
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AND ALL OF THAT..MEANINGLESS. WE ALL HAVE BLIND SPOTS LARRY,AND THAT IS REALLY ALL I AM POINTING OUT | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
I have my own to contend with,but I acknowledge those blind spots and actively work to better myself in those areas.

but you never do larry.
so confident in your arrogance to be oblivious to your own ignorance.

all I see you do is vomit talking points.and then defend those talking points vigorously,with little critical examination.

you drop this turd of a talking point like a toddler,but the ignorance is pretty appalling.

it is obvious you have little to no idea the histories of either Venezuela or cuba.

you just think you do,and in my opinion that is one of the biggest problems in America.
#1 in confidence with almost zippo historical understandings globally.
ignorance is fine...we all are to some degree...but to be so f**king arrogant whilst simultaneously engaging in blatant ignorance is laughably grotesque.

now you are nowhere near as bad as archie on this site,but you are close second.
at least we can actually discuss some issues,and that is a good thing.

now I am just a gutter rat,nothing special about me.
but at least I know...... I know nothing.
you think you know it all.

*hot tip* you don't
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I don't need to beat myself up. Not when you take all the time you take to do so. I love it when you say things like "It is obvious that you have no idea (missing word) the histories of Venezuela or cuba (should be capitalized)." I suspect that what you mean is that my perspective on the failings of their systems does not match yours, so my knowledge must be wanting.

I remember when Fidel Castro came to America for funding for his revolution. Many people donated, thinking he would establish a democracy there. Instead, after defeating Generalismo Batista, he surprised his American backers, by aligning with the USSR, against us. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. I remember my brother and many of his friends joining the military, because they were convinced that we were going to war. I remember that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for a group pushing for "Fairness for Cuba," when he killed Kennedy. I remember Castro making a big deal out of torturing his enemies, to suppress opposition. I remember boatload after boatload of people escaping Cuba and describing the abject poverty, in spite of Soviet subsidies. I remember North Vietnam thanking Cuba for blood donations during our war. The Cubans said they drained the blood out of their enemies until they died, then sent it to Hanoi. I ermember several recent documentaries showing Cuban infrastructure crumbling after decades of neglect.

Venezuela became well off during the OPEC Oil Embargo, when the price of oil quadrupled. Their various leaders, right wing and left, used oil to fund government programs and line their own pockets. Hugo Chavez became President in 1999, and eventually neutralized the power of the congress, after surviving a coup. The fluctuation in oil prices dogged him. He ruled by edict until his death. His poltical and presidential successor, Maduro, ran on a promise to root out corruption. Chavez left corruption? Who knew?
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or to be more precise: you are revealing your glaring blind spots.

i am not saying what you are stating is wrong.
i am pointing out that it is incomplete.

now this is a meme site,and it is a limited vehicle for in-depth discussions on complicated matters.i am confident we would have fantastic conversations that would go deep into the evening.

if i may,allow me to suggest some light reading that will fill in those gaps to give you are much more rich and robust understandings.

1.john perkins:confessions of an economic hitman
2.chalmers Johnson:blowback
3.chris hedges:death of the liberal class

those three books would be a good start to garner a far deeper understanding of the situation in the Americas and carribean.
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The first step: Point out my "glaring shortcomings."
The second step: Provide a reading list of authors who agree with your positions, for my "re-education."

And, you call me arrogant. Wow! I will review your suggested source materials.
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read the books larry,or watch the youtube interviews.

and then you will realize what a ridiculous accusation that is.

and the reason I am not pointing out your glaring shortcomings is because,as I have already stated,this site:
a horrible vehicle.
you do not know me,so why should you trust anything I put forth
I have attempted to do just that in the past,and it got me nowhere.so why should I take time out of my day to lay out anything?
now maybe you will check it out..maybe you won't.
but I have been stung in the past and wasted hours of my time just to be summarily dismissed on the most flaccid and tepid of reasons.

now I am not of the oopinion that you are a mupper,or a neo-Nazi,nor a sycophant.
I find you to be fairly reasonable.

which is why I even bother to offer pushback at all.
some people I will not even waste a minute of my time on,but I like your posts.
I appreciate the time you put in to comment or respond.

so it may appear that I am on the attack,but the reality is that I simply think you are a decent man,with some political/historical chops.
so I give ya some push...

as I stated.
you are not wrong.
just incomplete in your understandings.
and all I am offering is a few ideas to assist you in gaining a deeper understanding,because I am of the opinion that is something you actively seek.

otherwise I would not waste my time.
and the fact that I am just as stubborn,and I need to come to my own conclusions.
so on that I am probably projecting my own journey.

I can be just as stubborn,and my attack style is so ingrained after decades that it is hard to refrain.so if I offended,i truly and sincerely apologize.
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Johnson's name sounded familiar. He was involved with academics involving China when my late Brother worked for the NSA, specializing in electronic spying on China. His studies were done at the Yale School of Far Eastern Languages, through the Defense Language Institute. He subscribed to a large number of journals dealing with China.

None the less, just because I am not a fan of authoritarian governments elsewhere, I am not an advocate for hegemony. I say, let people succeed or fail on their own, unless they ask for help. I guess because I don't agree with your worldview you just assume that I embrace the exact opposite position. That, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with the current state of political discussion. No nuance.
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The biggest difference between you and me is obvious in your last posting. My meme suggests questions that people might ask. I don't tell them where to find the "right answers." The "answers," exist across the political spectrum. Their personal journeys will lead them to the answers whcih make sense for them.

You not only tell me what to think, you tell me what I must read to understand the world. Your approach is what is wrong with the current state of politics in America. I don't think my life experiences have equipped me to open your mind. I will leave it with a quote that has kept me from writing off even the most closed minded people I have met. "To each, his own spittle tastes sweet."
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