Imagine how much better off we would be without George Bush or trump ever being in office.

thatta boy!
punch down for better effect!

its no longer relevant -

The result was the controversial “three-fifths compromise,” in which black slaves would be counted as three-fifths of a person for the purpose of allocating representatives and electors and calculating federal taxes. The compromise ensured that Southern states would ratify the Constitution and gave Virginia, home to more than 200,000 slaves, a quarter (12) of the total electoral votes required to win the presidency (46).

that curdles my grits.

I see trumpies do it as well,and liberals,and righties.

and it always bothers me.
no need or reason to punch down,when there is so much delicious fodder to cock-punch upward for us all to enjoy.

irony is I hear ya... but the gloves are off.

smearing and demonizing his supporters is just weak,and garners nothing but a certain self-satisfaction I guess? but it is like punching a toddler.

I will slap a muppet around,but only after they draw first.
and that is engaged on a singular level,not against a whole grouping.

public figures are open game in my opinion.
meh..i guess we have different rules of engagement.

not a big deal.
I think you are smart and sassy.we just look ta things different.

again, I think I hear ya but for the love of all that is holy, if one can not see the drumpf for the pos that he is, if they have a problem with name calling, then the hypocrisy needs to be bitch slapped...

I separate the two.
trump<--------> trump supporters
democratic party<--------> people who may vote democratic
*I apply this across the board.

so I may criticize or attack something trump did,or said.
or the democratic leadership,or republican leadership for that matter.

but I take a more scenic,and less judgemental route when engaging with a person who may support trump,or some particular party.my main goal is to understand WHY a person would support politician A,rather than simply dismiss them outright based on my own subjective assumptions.

let's take your meme.
you take a whole subset of supporters,and paint them as "hillbillies" in a derogatory sense.
my family are trump supporters,and many are farmers.

now they have their reasons for supporting trump,and most I disagree with,but does this mean that they are "hillbillies"?

of course not,and to suggest as much is stupid.

now we can flip the script,and apply the very same metric to those who attack Bernie supporters,as being low information,communists,lazy do-nothing hippies.

same broad strokes,with the same intentions to smear an entire grouping,with the same flimsy logic.

and I think this is all on me.
I have approached this convo with my own presumptions.
I find you smart,sassy and you got some chops.
i.e:not a muppet.
so I had a certain expectation that is actually unfair on my part to impose upon you.

who am I to dictate how you intereact with people based on my own subjective understandings of you..based on comments from you?

this is my bad.
and I apologize.
you do you my friend.i will have to own my own bullshit presumptions.

If it helps clarify things, there is a brother that was a Bush supporter.. who I thought had learned his lesson.. he did not... and we have not spoke since drumpf.. and sadly will likely never speak again before one of us dies. That is the legacy of drumpf

Maybe I should submit my memes to you first, and you could make them more palatable to the flat earth pizza gate nitwits... cause I just dont have it in me anymore, and I mean that as a compliment...

while I can understand your frustration in a certain sense,think about this:

the tactic of attacking supporters rather than the content of the policy is the weakest hand in politics.if all you have is weaponized disgust against a group of people,just reveals how weak your hand is.

example:clinton dismissing a whole swath of excited trump supporters as being "deplorables",because at the end of the day..the Clinton campaign ran on "at least we aren't trump".Clinton had no platform.

not every American is a political junkie like you or I.
they are a tad politically un-sophisticated,but they are not dumb.

just look how the trump campaign,and his supporters,took that "deplorables" line,owned it,incorporated it into their lexicon..then weaponized it..and created an even stronger base..and attacked Clinton with her own dismissal.

we can see both Bloomberg and biden attempting to do the same to sanders supporters,for almost the exact same reasons.

it is a horrible political tactic.
it exposes a weak hand.
and can be weaponized quite easily against you.

but..to be fair..sometimes we get frustrated and need to blow off steam..and will come out swinging against the first muppet we see.

I am guilty of this as well.
so we have that in common.

the tactic of attacking supporters rather than the content of the policy "" which is exactly what drumpf and his supporters do... I tried the policy route for a while, but its like trying to convince a flat earther that its just not.. and you can show him all the globes and photos from space, the other planets, and they just call it "fake news".... They really are a special kind of stupid.... my patience and understanding with them has simply run out.

when I first came to this site a year a go,that is exactly what I attempted to do.
change hearts and minds...and all I got was a gaggle of shrieking harpies who immediately went on the attack.

I get this from both ends of the spectrum,because they are muppets.
they have no ideology to speak of,and what they DO have,has been handed to them.

these are the people you will never change.
their devotion has become a form of religious belief.
much like a fundie Christian.

to attempt to change their mind is an exercise in futility.

so I stopped trying.
and now I openly,and sometimes subtlely,mock them.
and it is sooo entertaining.
why spend energy on people who will never change their position,or even listen to a contrary POV?
and will ultimately view you as the enemy if their proselytizing fails to sway you to their side.

there are some decent folk here who are a joy to engage with,even though we may disagree.those are the folks I will spend time on.

I just slap muppets around for fum,but only after they draw first.

their tears of ineffectual rage sustain me.

Lots of big words, you may need a dictionary

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/education-gap-explains-american-politics/575113/

The Founding Fathers debated for months, with some arguing that Congress should pick the president and others insistent on a democratic popular vote. Their compromise is known as the Electoral College.. and a terrible one it has turned out to be.

EC is the greatest idea since sliced bread! It keeps weirdos like you from running the country!

Just secede from the union. Then have a country of all your own.

But then you would get reconqured by the U.S.

trea·son
/ˈtrēzən/

noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.