I see the "do nothing democrats" are at it again

They're garbage bills, democrat pipe dreams, gun control nonsense, green-new-deal nonsense, job killing nonsense, industry killing nonsense - The Senate is right to reject bad legislation - it's part of their job.

Increase of minimum wages, lower drug prices. Yupjust garbage. What a pile of shit.

Like I said - job killing nonsense and industry killing nonsense.

Mess with the minimum wage and people will lose their jobs - it's happened over and over and over again. The last time Democrats messed with health care - prices skyrocketed.

Spell it with me:

N-O-N-S-E-N-S-E

395 nills of nonsense? Nice government you got there.

I didn't elect any Democrats - they're your responsibility.

Then you can own the state of your country. Hope none of you family gets sick and needs meds like insuline and cancer or hiv drugs.

Hahahahaha, how much more pathetic can you possibly get. Wishing ill on someone because you can't win an argument.

I haven't had insurance since Obamacare priced me out of the market. I've needed meds, and paid for them. There are ways to deal with diabetes without insulin (no E), but nobody in my family is diabetic. As far as HIV goes - that's a benefit of being part of the religious right, we aren't promiscuous. HIV doesn't have much of a foothold in my political community.

I didn't wish unwell, I was sincere, hope all is well.

And what's this shit about curbing a lifestyle cuz of min wage? So people shouldn't have a life, go to movies, out for dinner, buy a toy, hobbies? F**k them eh, seems legit.

I didn't have a life, because I couldn't afford a life. Having a life is something you earn. You expect that a person reaches adulthood and they should be entitled to everything without working for it?

Let's turn this around and maybe you can grasp the concept by looking at it from the other end.

You want to raise wages so people have more money to spend on stuff, like toys and hobbies. What happens to the price of a movie ticket when the minimum wage goes up? The ticket booth attendant gets paid more, the popcorn guy gets paid more, the guy pushing the broom gets paid more, the ticket taker gets paid more - the cost of that movie ticket goes up. Now your minimum wage is STILL unable cover the expense of toys and hobbies, because the cost of those toys and hobbies are now higher.

What about the toys? The guy pushing the pallet jack in the warehouse gets paid more, the guy stocking the shelves gets paid more, the checker gets paid more, the bagger gets paid more.....the cost of the toy goes up.

Then there is another aspect you're not considering. Lets say minimum wage goes from $7.25 to $10.25. What happens to the guy who was already making $10.25? He's pissed because he worked himself into a position where he was making above minimum wage and now he's in the same boat as the pimply faced high school brats. So he complains and now he gets a raise to $13.25 - and the $13.25 guy above him is pissed because he's been there longer than $10.25 guy and now he wants a raise to reflect his seniority......Do you see how this cascades out of control?

Of course you don't, because you're rubbing both of your brain cells together so maybe you can spark another mensa zinger.

That aughta tell you something right there, you can't remember when min wage was $4.24 and it's only gone up $3.75 since then. I started work in '85 at $4/hr, $7 in '87. So a person working in retail? Doesn't deserve a life. Nice of you. A bit arrogant but whatevs. Can't all be awesome like you. I prefer empathy over apathy.

If you're working retail without commission, then you're a teenager. Earn your chops bro, everyone else had to. You seem to want life handed to you on a silver platter.

I prefer ambition over apathy.

If you can't be bothered to make your own life better - why should it become the responsibility of society?

If an unskilled person wants a better life, they should develop some skills.

I can't help but notice that you completely ignored everything I said about the cascade effect of raising the minimum wage and jumped straight to the "you're a meaniehead" argument. And no more mensa jokes? I love hearing them....not that they're funny - that they're coming from someone who has no chance of ever becoming a member.

This isn't a win loss thing here, it's a discussion, debate. You can't just call it "I win".
You've never gone shopping midday, go to a mall, gas station, electronics store?, Who tha f**k do you think is working? Minimum wage was supposed to be a living wage, at minimum.

This isn't a discussion. When I bring up arguments, and all you can do is tell me I'm mean - yeah, I win. You sound like a broken record "what about midday?" - there are lots of teenagers available to work midday.

You seem to have ascribed a meaning to the word "minimum" that isn't an intended meaning. Minimum wage places a restriction on the employer, that's it. Nowhere in the legislation is it described as a living wage. Many democrats have tried to give it that definition in order to raise the value - but that has never been part of the law.

Yes, I've gone shopping midday. If I go to the mall, it's a ghost town. There are minimal employees because there is minimal customer traffic. Go on the weekend or evening (when most people are off work), you'll find more minimum wage employees and more higher paid (skilled) managers.

Where those positions are commissioned, you'll find older - more skilled sales people.

Electronics store, anyone making more than minimum wage is on commission. The minimum wage guys are stocking shelves or in the warehouse.

At a gas station, you've got an employee tasked with handling money - a skill. You'll be hard pressed to find someone running a cash register who makes minimum wage.

Janitors make more than minimum wage, because there is skill involved in keeping things clean. That's right - people who clean toilets make more than minimum wage.

You should try being an employer, or a manager responsible for minimum wage employees. It's eye opening. Someone who can't command more than minimum wage is someone who is barely worth hiring. Really, if you can't get more than minimum wage - your only worthwhile skill is to hold down the floor.

Who is the person working retail midday at your local mens wear store or ladies store? Not high school students. There's only enough room for so many managers and assistant managers.

How long have you guys bin at 7 min wage? 10 yrs or so? That's not progress, that's regression. Fuel costs go up, food prices go up, public transit increases, rent increases, but min wage has stayed the same, all in the last 10 yrs.

Who works for minimum wage during the day? I can think of 3 groups, off the top of my head.

1. High School dropouts, who will figure out their mistake after a some time.
2. College freshman and sophomores - the other teenagers still living at home with mommy and daddy.
3. retirees trying to supplement their retirement income

You aren't good at this. You seem to lack the imagination necessary to form abstract thought, to visualize hypothetical situations or extrapolate beyond the most basic of scenarios.

Yeah, minimum wage hasn't moved in a while - but the people it was intended for are still living at home with mommy and daddy paying the bulk of their expenses.

Minimum wage is not intended to be a living wage. It's an entry level wage for people who don't yet know how to keep a job or do anything else useful.

You've already lost this argument - you can recognize this, right?

When was the last wage increase? Bezos just spent 165 mill on a house and still pays minimum wage and decreased benefits. Omg, he gonna starve. How much are they paying you mensa boy. I still have my doubts about your kinkos mensa card

OK, since you don't grasp basic economics.

When you raise the minimum wage, businesses must either:

1. raise prices
2. keep fewer employees

When you raise prices, you lose customers.

The consumer price index is down for the past year (that means average consumer prices for goods are lower). What justification is there to raise minimum wage if the cost of living has gone down?

Yeah yeah, blame it on some rich guy.

When I was young and had a minimum wage job, I did several things to get by. I had more than one job. I had more than one roommate. I rode a bicycle 25 miles to and from one of those jobs every day. I ate ramen for 2 meals a day. I worked on gaining skills that would allow me to get a better job, which I eventually did. Eventually I could pay for college, and I got better jobs. Now I own a business.

The key to surviving on a minimum wage job is to get a better job. Minimum wage is a first job for teenagers. If you cant' get a better job, you should probably stop drinking and doing drugs.

But, if blaming someone else works for you, by all means - blame someone else.

What about the single mothers, older adults after theor children leave the house, those working their way through school, who the f**k bags your groceries, pump your gas, serve you food, sell your shoes, millions of menial jobs that need to be done everyday all day, even during school hrs when the supposed min wage workers are at school.

The company I last subbed off of, starting wage was $18/hr to push a broom, survive that for 3-5 months, pick a trade and move up. They don't seem to be hurting.

Canadian min wage is $13- $15/hr depending on province. We're not sinking, we're not falling apart like Venezuela.

Who bags my groceries? High school kids.
Pump your gas? I pump my own gas - what planet do you live on?
Serve your food? Wait staff, and they don't get minimum wage anyway - most work for tips.

The last time I worked a minimum wage job was for $8.25 an hour. $18 an hour would have been awesome. I did mention that I rode a bicycle to and from work 50 miles a day, right? I had a car - but driving meant I had less money to spend on things like food or rent or utilities. It's this little thing we adults like to call, responsibility.

It's hardship that fuels the drive to improve your station. Did I want to have to choose between electricity and food? No, but I had to make that choice a few times and lived with it. Did I like riding my bicycle to work in the rain? No, but I was working to improve my skills and get a better job.

Grow up.....or continue to be a child - I don't care.

I couldn't even remember what minimum wage was way back then - it was $4.25

What about the senate bills waiting at Pelosi’s desk? Oh please, Pelosi is doing it to McConnell. It’s both sides