You have no choice but accept my choice of what to call 'it'

Well stated... we are being forced now to play along with whatever someone identifies something or someone or themselves as.

It's a blob of cells in both cases, the grief at a miscarriage is because they have lost the baby the blob of cells was going to become.

Point I was making is that she's the one who decides how you should react to the 'situation'. Whether you should show sympathy, or offer support. To a bystander it's irrelevant.

Surely every person dealing with either an abortion or a miscarriage is an.individual with their own feelings and needs?
Some ppl will feel guilt and hurt at having an abortion that they know is the best thing to do, some ppl won't.
It's emotionally complex.

You are correct. That is not what I am saying, or what the meme is about.

Where did you get that from? LOL Do I need to draw you a picture again?

clear now?

Good meme! That means that the left says that the mother decides what a fetus is, a fetus, or a blob of tissue. That is what they want youto think.

Thank you Sir!

I guess the OP meme makes sense if you can’t find the difference here

It’s not a person either way, not yet.

Argument here is pro-life, not pro-person.

“Pro-life, not pro-person”

Well, can’t argue with that, really. Fetuses are clearly living. But: most living things in the world don’t receive the same legal protections as people. The question is: When does a fetus attain rights of its own?

1. Some here would say: the moment egg touches sperm.
2. Some would say: at the moment of “viability” at about the 3rd trimester.
3. Others would say: not until the fetus is born.

And still others would draw the line somewhere else: like first fetal heartbeat, or first evidence of fetal mental functions.

I’m somewhere between 2 and 3 myself, which matches what Roe v. Wade says.

But I think position 1 — i.e. taking a Plan B pill four hours after sex makes you a murderer — is quite overzealous.

And not even possible to prove, really, since it’s hard to even know you’re pregnant until 4-6 weeks in.

Get it right, #3 is called Infanticide

Don't forget #4, babies born alive after abortion can be left to die under New York law

Point I was making is that this woman expects my sympathy or support, depending on what SHE decides to call it.

Hardly, an abortion and a miscarriage are not the same thing.

Right, that is what i said. Sympathy for miscarriage and support for abortion. All based on what she sees/feels is inside of her.

Who else's feelings are relevant though?

How are society's thoughts about abortion different from society's feelings?
Aren't they the same thing?
And if so, what you said is contradictory.

Whether or not a person has an abortion directly impacts that person, it does not directly impact society.
How can reason say that what society thinks as a whole is more important than the affected individual?

Childbirth can kill.

You wouldn't force someone to continue driving a car if they really didn't want to, especially not if they hadn't willingly gotten in.

Telling someone who's pregnant that they are not allowed to have autonomy over their own body is cheapening their life though.

You keep saying 'unborn child', abortions close to term are comparatively rare.

It's far more accurate to say 'blob of cells'

My argument was related, in refusing to allow someone to have autonomy over their own body and to make a decision for themself about whether or not to continue a pregnancy, you are forcing them to suffer physically and to risk death.
There are a multitude of health issues and risks associatedwith pregnancy and childbirth.

When I said that abortion and miscarriage are not the same thing, you misunderstood me.

The difference is not about the emotional support someone wants from others.
The difference is that in one instance, a person is making a difficult choice about their own body and that of the child that would exist if they continue the pregnancy.
The other is an unfortunate loss of a child that the person is choosing to give birth to.

You're also talking as if someone is making a personal emotional demand on you.

The shame and stigma associated with abortion means that people often don't seek emotional support.

They do, they chose to get laid and then got pregnant. You can choose the choices, but can’t choose the consequences. This is why you wait until you are married so crap like this doesn’t happen.

As PragerU said, the left asks what feels good, not necessarily what does good.

Hahaha so true.