Evidence You're Wrong

By the books definition:
fe·tus
/ˈfēdəs/

noun
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

Logical:
If it's not a person, then it wouldn't ever be able to become one. A fish can't grow into a man, a Fetus can; A fish isn't a man, a Fetus is.

Scientific:
It has it's own, unique human DNA, and - exempting outside interference (Abortions, deceases, or other natural/unnatural causes) - WILL grow into a fully developed human being.

Social:
If a pregnant woman is murdered, it counts as a double homicide. But if a pregnant woman pays a doctor to rip apart limb from limb, it's supposedly somehow magically okay.

My friends after I drop this on someone IRL.

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but you can't just control what a person does with the fetus. It is the parent's decision to have the abortion. What if they aren't in a financial state to raise a child? What if they are just a teenager? What if the other person didn't even have the person's consent? For some people, having a child would just make their life even harder.

And if they become pregnant and can't/won't keep it, ADOPT IT OUT! DON'T KILL IT!

Some of their arguments are extremely disturbing; some equate pregnancy to a disease!

so you're saying rape and incest don't exist?

nahhh...he's drigh.

wHeN wAs I tAlKiN bOuT yO gRaNnY

then WTF is that "analogy" comparing murdering your grandma to aborting a fetus after getting raped

Both kill a completely innocent third party who had nothing to do with the crime. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. In fact, let me give a more clear example, involving you and me instead:

You tick me off, I decide to choke you to death. I grab you by your throat and lift you off the ground. By all accounts your life depends on my mercy now, and I find you a mere inconvenience. Do I get the right to kill you? No, obviously not; because I caused the situation that caused you to be an inconvenience to me in the first place. What about if I said "Well he's a **insert any minority that democrats have oppressed in the past then blamed on republicans**, they aren't REALLY people". How about now? No, in fact that makes it worse. Yet when you do it with unborn children it's somehow okay. My guess is because your murdering them before they can say anything about what your doing, so you just act like their are no victims...well except for yourself of course. Because after all; what's a Liberal without victim hood? Oh right, a charlatan with a martyr complex.

I'm sure that blatant mocking is really helping you seem rational.

And yes, when I said the whole "consent thing", I was talking about rape and incest.

They don't care. It's not them being ripped apart limb from limb and if they DON'T advocate for abortions then they might actually have to take responsibility for their actions.

Agreed. I wasn't insinuating otherwise, I was just telling you how these people typically think. Based on my past experiences, at least.

Some people don't even get surgical abortions. They can just take a pill. And what if there's something wrong with the fetus, and unless there's an abortion, it will kill the mother AND the child?

Pill based abortions are just as barbaric as surgical ones; they literally force the child into starving to death by cutting off the nutrients.

And IF, and only IF the life of the mother is endangered, then she has a right to an abortion, but before you dance around and claim victory, only 0.0005% of the 1% of "medically necessary" abortions are these kinds of cases. as I've said, 95% of ALL abortions are do to sheer irresponsibility, so cutting down to 0.000005% of all cases, (Roughly half a million on the low end) brings the number of abortions from 500,000 to only about 5 abortions a year. Which sounds 'radical' until you realize that majority of abortion specialist have gone the entirety of their 60+ years of their careers without a patients once NEEDING an abortion. The only reason I'm not even denying these cases exist is because my grandmother had a tubal pregnancy nearly 40= years ago and would have died if she didn't have an abortion, meaning my mom wouldn't have been born and i wouldn't be here (please withhold your disappointment). But even then, 40+ years ago, that was EXTREMELY rare, and she HATED herself for having to do it; She isn't even comparable to some 20 year old wh*r* who got knocked up during a night on the town and decided "hey, how about I NOT take responsibility for my actions?" and had an abortion just because she could.

One word: Adoption.

And as for r*pe and incest, I'll just say this:

r*pe is bad, obviously, but first of all they only make up ~2% of all abortions, while the child simply being unwanted makes up 95%+. And even if a woman IS r*ped, that doesn't mean she can murder someone else who's just as much as the victim. (If I get robbed, should I be aloud to stab a little old lady who was knocked over by the perp? No, of course not. She's a victim too.)

And as for incest, I only have one question: Was it consensual? If so, oh well. If not, I refer back to my previous argument.

women have the right to choose. You sound really sexist when you say that.

And you soend like a parrot....regurgitating what you've heard someone else say.

All that muchofat must be in your brain

Also, you know what's ACTUALLY sexist? Thinking a man is wrong just because he's a man. Do you know what ISN'T? Defending unborn children, when nearly 87% are women. (Taking into account that that most abortions take place before the child can develop XY chromosomes, and still has XX ones, that means majority of abortion victims are actually women. But that doesn't fir your propaganda, now does it?)

And you sound really murderous when you say that. A good thing your mom didn't find you 'not convenient'. Altho you wouldn't, or couldn't, complain had things been different, child.

I have two moms so I was probably more "planned" than you

That explains a lot actually; No strong father figures to teach responsibility, two feminists to teach entitlement and self-victimization. You think any idea spread by a man is sexist, even if it's shared by majority of women too. (And yes, I know it's inconvenient, but 67% of women being against abortions on demand is the majority.)

And now you're saying women aren't responsible

No wonder you're a pussy. Poor guy. Is David Crosby your dad? I hope you have a strong male figure somewhere in your life or you may as well put the dress on now, Mary.

I'm saying feminist aren't. It's an ideology based off of forced helplessness and the idea that women need handouts, while at the same time claiming those handouts are empowerment. Anyone who knows anything about responsibility can tell you that's not it.
So yeah, the ~ 33% of women who are radical feminist (like your two mothers based on the rhetoric your spewing) AREN'T responsible, but the vast majority of women - who don't buy into that BS - ARE typically responsible. Nice attempt at a straw-man, but every BS argument you could make I've countered countless times before.

Should a baby be murdered because their parents are in a financial scrape?
Should a baby be murdered because the mother is young?
Should a baby be murdered because of the father's crimes?
Should a baby be murdered because life might be hard?

How does a chemical reaction involving sperm entering a ovum automatically turn someone into a human? 7 months in I understand not wanting an abortion, but how is being a week pregnant, the fetus is barely formed, and having an abortion bad?

It's called fertilization. A sperm fertilizes an egg and becomes a Zygote, the first stage in human development. Here is the copy and pasted Wikipedia page, just scroll to the "Human" section, it's a bit wordy, but to sum it up: The moment a sperm and egg become a Zygote, it meets every requirement to be considered a human being. Period. In fact, the CDC - which isn't exactly conservative - even acknowledged that life beings at conception. So yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zygote

And as for the whole "but how is being a week pregnant, the fetus is barely formed, and having an abortion bad?" thing; I really think you need to go back and read "Horton hears a who", because you really don't seem to understand something as simple as "A person is a person, no matter how small". I'm only being partially facetious here, it is a very appropriate quote for the situation.