It's all personal preference, of course...

Haha, good one.

Literally the only kind of boobs I don’t like are the fake ones. They look so hard and misshapen. I wonder: am I just seeing bad boob jobs, or is that how they all look?

Silicone injections in the ass and lips too. Ugh. Big turn-offs for me. These girls are making themselves look like aliens.

Even when the cosmetic surgery goes right — which it doesn’t always. Not gonna post any such images here, but they’re out there on the internet for anyone curious...

Girls: before you do something like this to your body, roll safe and think about it. Chances are there are plenty of guys who already think you are beautiful the way you are.

Well, I guess the actual good looking cosmetic surgery jobs don't look artificial so you wouldn't spot them as easily. It's a classic case of confirmation bias, I guess. I mean, I'm the same in that regard - I don't like fake boobs, lips, etc. But I have gotten less and less extreme about it.

Just because I think no-one should need to do this because every person is beautiful the way they are, doesn't mean that there are no valid reasons to do it. If someone feels really insecure and they want to change something about themselves to feel better it's completely fine in my opinion. That includes but is not limited to trans people, of course.

When going straight for the "lust" part of this: (May be a bit straight to the point, but to avoid any kind of confusion)
Not gonna share all my sexual secrets, but I can confirm that experience taught me that the size does not matter during "the deed", not even during foreplay. And when a girl wants to seduce me then her facial expression is by far more important than her boobs. Nice boobs, but an expression implying you'd wanna kill me, and I won't be attracted in any way. Totally not the body that they want for the Playboy, but a facial expression that shows you are pleased with my presence, and you've won "the first part of the battle"...

I do know a woman who did reduce hers, but that was not for beauty reasons but rather because their weight caused her problems in her back. That is something I can stand for. Also being the son of a mother who had to remove her boobs due to breast cancer, I can also understand the will of reconstruction. I once asked a woman if the removal of boobs making you "less woman" could be compared to if I'd be "less man" if they had to remove my "private parts" and she did indeed think you could compare it to that.

Now coming to the topic of beauty, well, you know the saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", right? I can't deny that my eyes are always (or mostly) the first to notice a girl, still the same applies as for my list paragraph. A smile can make any woman beautiful. A smile tells me more than boobs can ever do. And I prefer people to look the way they are, anyway. I can understand some need for hygiene but other than that... why do we care so much about such things as looks? Aren't there more important things than looks?

100% agree. I wouldn't consider surgery for health reasons "cosmetic" anyway and that is certainly one of the valid reasons to undergo surgery. Another would be being unhappy with your body and wanting to change - no matter if you want more or less. I have a friend who doesn't like her boobs being so small and generally wishes they were bigger - not huge but just a bit bigger. Now, I think she is perfectly beautiful the way she is and I wouldn't change a thing about her but it's not my decision. If she feels uncomfortable that to me is a valid reason to think about it. What I don't like is society pressuring people, especially women, into certain "beauty standards". I tend to like people for their character and intelligence and for being different from the norm. Their biological starting point is rather unimportant to me - probably one of the reasons I don't care about gender either.

Let's say, everything is dictated by "the mass"... The way we look, but also the way we dress... I remember on of the former Dutch ministers for finances never wearing a tie and man, everybody was talking about him not wearing a tie, in stead of the way in which he administrated the state finances, but personally I think that his prime function is to administrate the state finances and not to be a dress-doll.... And yeah, we all know the ideal model of a girl, big boobs, small waist, big ass... I personally wonder if a girl looking like that can make me happier than a girl who has "a few pounds more" and who has even trouble walking in a straight line.
In Dutch we say "Van een knappe tafel kun je niet eten" (lit. From a good-looking table you can't eat... Perhaps you get the metaphor). But men too are more and more forced into certain looks. Wide shoulders, six-pack belly, big muscles. A Dutch poll under women shows that most women do not easily fall for such men as it looks these guys are sporting so much it makes them insecure, and yet we all force guys to look like that, also with the excuse you'd score better with the ladies that way.

"I tend to like people for their character and intelligence and for being different from the norm."
Yeah, same here, although I am against being different for the sake of being different. If "the norm" is who you are, fine with me, if it's not, then dare to live outside of it. If I would like to put on a Roman toga people will all ridicule me, but frankly is it their business if I would wanna wear that? Or a Scottish kilt? Or women's clothing while I am a guy?

I should really market my novels, especially for the Elfish tribe called "The Drop-Outs" that play a role in there. Tired of the strict rules of society they formed they own tribe and their motto, even written on their coat of arms is "Be Yourself". I guess that motto is getting more important than ever.

Of course, everybody can be who they are. I just don't think I could be friends with someone who just happens to be the norm. Not fitting in is quite a big thing that will affect your character a lot and I don't think someone who hasn't gone through that themselves can really understand me. Or the other way around for that matter.

That is exactly what I based my novel tribe on, in which the girl Seelah Gandra is rejected just because she wants to be herself, her rejections make her show the worst in her as she constantly rises in anger and becomes pretty insulting (and something even threatening), although if you look right through her you can see she's actually a very sweet girl. When she eventually meets Dernor who falls in love with her and takes her to the Drop-Out tribe, where "Be Yourself" is the tribe's official motto and where everybody wants her to be herself her aggression soon disappears allowing her to show the sweet girl she really is.
Her story is also shown in this game (in development): https://gamejolt.com/games/Dyrt_NET/426296

I shouldn't advertise myself like that, but Seelah Gandra's story does fit my own trauma's and my own views on "the norm" (the only reason why Seelah Gandra is rejected is because "the norm" doesn't suit her. Although I must note that "the norm" in my game is a lot stricter).

I too have been in loads of rejection because I am not what people WANT me to be. I've decided to stick a big middle finger to that and to be what I should have been the past 40 years. Really I'd love to turn my age back to a teenager, so I can relive my life as the person I always was, and not the person I was forced to be. And now it's funny how things go all with boobs as starting point... but well, I guess the body should be just as the person living in it... A representation of who you really are, and not the person people want you to be. If bigger/smaller boobs can get you a boy-friend in an easier manner, you can actually wonder if that boy-friend is actually worth the trouble. These are wise words by Marilyn Monroe: "A girl should never forget she doesn't need a man who doesn't need her". If boobs are all that matter... Of course I ain't a woman, but if I were, I don't think I'd like to be chosen for my boobs alone... But maybe an actual girl should judge that one ;)

Yeah, that sounds really relatable... Well, in my teenage years I was always an outsider even though I didn't even know myself yet and was basically just hiding. Only at university did I really figure out who was hiding inside of me. But just after I finally found out who I am I had to hide again because at my job I can't be myself... Sometimes I just wanna run away and start over somewhere I don't have to hide...

That's why I like this stream so much. It might start with a joke about boobs but it can always go so much deeper. And even if we're not women I think we have at least a general idea of what it's like to be judged for your body. I'm not as skinny as I used to be, I don't have a very smooth skin, I'm not very muscular,... But, as they say, those who care don't matter and those who matter don't care.

When it comes to judging someone once said: "Thou salt not judge for thou shalt be judged thyself". He said it was a quote from the bible, but I could never confirm that, but it doesn't really matter. Judging others is easy, but judging yourself is hard. And judging one for looks is also easy, but seeing people for what they really are.... And when it comes to judging for looks. I've always said I had a weak spot for Asian girls, and none of my former girl-friends are Asian... In the end it doesn't really matter, right?

I wonder what would happen if we would take "blind date" literally... I mean dating blindfolded. Would be pretty awkward, since you can't see where you would be walking, but at the same time would that lead to accepting a new gf/bf you'd otherwise reject? I wonder....

Looking at my past relationships or hook-ups I apparently don't have a type... I've dated tall and small, big and thin, all hair colors, all boob sizes (up to I think F-cups),... Of course, I do judge people based on their looks and when I just see someone on the street I already decide if I find them attractive or not. But if I actually get to know someone that decision can completely change based on character.

I like the blindfolding idea but I think people who pick partners based on looks would also be the kind of people rejecting someone based on looks even after a "blind date" that went well. Or decide after a crappy "blind date" that they still want to date someone once they see the other person for the first time. 🤷

You have a point with your blindfolding critic, but perhaps we should investigate... Maybe I should write to a TV studio for this concept. I mean, when Roel van Velzen came with the idea that "The Voice of Holland" should pick people while the judges/coaches are sitting with their backs to the artist so they can only judge the way they sing and not their looks, it did lead to some people getting through I don't think they may have passed otherwise, but also to rejections of people whose looks were enough to ensure fully sold out concerts.... Perhaps dating is not that much different in that perspective, but of course, we had "blind date" shows before, but just asking some questions with a wall between you and your date won't do... An active date in which you actually meet and have some activities while blindfolded and maybe even (if both feel like it) have sex while blindfolded and then judge.... I really really wonder...

Now I did see extremely beautiful women with very ugly boy-friends and vice versa... Of course, having an ugly girl-friend has a very big advantage... No jealous guys at every street corner staring at your girl-friend....

People would definitely watch that... 😅 ...which is ironic. 🙈

I don't really know what to say about people who pick an "ugly" partner so they don't have to be jealous... I mean, I don't understand the concept of being jealous anyway... If I love someone I want them to be as happy as possible. And if sleeping with someone else makes them happy why would I be against that? Unfortunately, most people don't think like that so we're stuck with jealous people everywhere... 🤷 But apart from that, picking someone you deem undesirable just so nobody else will find them desirable either is a pretty shitty move...

Oh, I wouldn't pick an "ugly" person just to prevent jealous looks, I'm just saying it's an advantage. If a girl, the editor of the Playboy would want to pay millions for to have her naked on the front page, falls in love with me and I got the feeling she appears the way she actually is, I'll go for her all the same, and take the jealous looks from other guys as something that comes with the territory. I don't know how many people picked an "ugly" partner just to avoid this. Now seen an interview with people, male and female alike, who are considered "beautiful" by the majority of people, and most of them rather considered it a curse rather than a blessing. One of them wondering if people falling for them are actually wanting them or just their good looks... They got a point...

Oh and people would watch anything... If I see what kind of YouTube channel are most visited and have most followers, I sometimes worry, though...

A book I read as a kid, was a book in which begins as a boy wakes up in a hospital after he had a gardening tool in his eyes and is told he'll be blind the rest of his days. He gets a close bond with his nurse, who is overwhelmed by his kindness as everybody else rejects her. When the boy is allowed to feel her face he finds out she's maimed as she got some boiling water into her face when she was a little girl, and therefore her "ugliness" results into people rejecting her. He also gets a close bond with a scholar who appears terminally ill and who is about to die soon. He really gets angry when his aunt enters the room and says nasty things about this scholar because the scholar looks rough and has long wild hair. The boy begins to realize he was only able to see the nurse and the scholar for what they were simply because he could not see what they looked like, due to his blindness and his first lesson about dealing with blindness is the advantage of being blind as it allows you to see people they way they are, rather than the way they look. I completely forgot the book's title (it was also written in Dutch), but this book has also been one of my own first first steps of seeing that visible beauty or ugliness can be very misleading. And that is also why I wonder what would happen if people dated while blindfolded...