Control is the leftist way

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Like, I have nothing against guns. I just don't want them in the hands of crazy people.

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A mentally unstable person. Like, a person who's mentally unstable to the point where the person shouldn't be trusted with firearms. What do you not get?

"Do you get what I'm saying, here...? You can "define" a person as "crazy" and "mentally unstable" just because you don't like or agree with what they think and believe"

What made you come to that conclusion? That's just ridiculous.

By "crazy", I mean people with violent tendencies, criminals, and political radicals. Would you want to trust them with guns?

what was it, 2 or 3 times already, It wouldn't be that hard to just edit those Gun right out, The argument that Guns back in the time the constitution was forged were single fire and took about 20 seconds to fully reload. If anything it needs updating, i'm not saying gun should be removed from it by any means, but a little update here and there to limit the number of variable weapons one person may own wouldn't harm things, You still get your guns, But there is more solid regulation, Everybody Wins

Exactly. Study some German History Right before and during WWII you might be surprised how close they were to the current democrat party.

Aight, Ben Shapiro. It was nice chatting with you.

Texas church shooting ...again....one less asshole to clog up our legal system, waste money and be parolled so he can vote democrat and kill more people....bye bye a-hole

bullshit.....if a limp-dick-o-crat hates guns....they send one of their sicko-weirdo-libtards to go shoot US up, to prove how evil guns are.....,,,luckily...WE are REPUBLICANS....and we SHOOT BACK to prove....GUNS
SAVE
LIVES
......BOOM MFer

6/10, would bang

Just like if you don't like gays, oppress them ... if it is wrong you should not turn a blind eye to it.

Your meme is about liberals banning stuff because they want to save lives

Conservatives want to ban stuff because they want to “save lives“ too

The difference being fetuses aren’t people under U.S. law

That is where we disagree. I believe it is a human from the time the egg is fertilized, because that is only what it can be. All humans have protection from being killed, that is why when you kill a pregnant woman they charge you with 2 murders.

The two murders thing assumes that the murdered woman wanted to carry her child to term

If she’s seeking an abortion, she clearly doesn’t.

Prove to me how banning guns has saved a single life.
I'll prove how banning guns has caused the death of millions of lives
Fetuses aren't people under U.S. law. But liberals hold funerals for eggs in grocery stores. Got it.
Egglivesmatter, Fetusesesdon'tmatter. It's all how liberals define things, AmiRight?

Compare murder rates of the U.S. vs. Other countries at a similar level of human development

The ones that “ban guns” or restrict them more heavily have much fewer homicides

Your chart is for gun related deaths. Those pesky facts got in the way of your narrative.

Look up the murder rate for other countries that have banned guns. You won't, You have to keep pushing that lie.
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-policy-info/guns-in-other-countries/

Another link you'll ignore
https://thefederalist.com/2018/04/03/gun-control-reduce-murder-lets-run-numbers-across-world/

I fail to grasp the distinction you are trying to draw between murders and gun-related homicides

The point is that guns kill people, whatever the proven mentality of the shooter

You fail to grasp common sense.

So in your mind a murder isn't murder unless it's at the end of a gun barrel. Got it.

The 2,996 people who died on 9/11 can rest in peace because they weren't shot. I'm sure their families will relieved if they use your logic.

Knives kill people, Airplanes kill people, Pressure cookers kill people, Cars kill people.
You're cherry picking the inanimate object used by criminals who kill innocent people.

I knew you wouldn't read the links I posted. They don't fit your lying narrative.
Gun laws don't work. Criminals don't obey the law.

I am posting charts with gun death rates because that is data relevant to the topic being discussed.

All this other stuff you're trying to introduce isn't. Why? Knives, airplanes, pressure cookers, and cars all have utility apart from the fact that they can be weaponized or cause accidental deaths.

Guns (hunting rifles excepted) simply do not have any such outside utility. They are for killing other humans, period.

Liberals do not call for banning these others things because that would be beyond dumb, and you'd justifiably mock us endlessly if we did.

Life carries risk, but we should eliminate the unnecessary risk.

You are cherry picking charts that fit your narrative, While ignoring links that destroy your narrative .

Death is death, Accidentally is immaterial.

Guns have an outside utility, They are used in defense against criminals determined to kill.

Liberals banned straws, It was beyond dumb, But that didn't stop them.

Breathing carries risk, By all means eliminate that unnecessary risk.
Let people who use oxygen to stimulate their working brains use it.

The charts in the links you posted are convoluted nonsense which goes to show that statistics may be cherry-picked and manipulated to achieve any result you want.

The simplicity of my charts should not be mistaken for lack of rigor. My charts boil this issue down to its pure essence. More guns floating around in society: more death.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands

Still cherry picking.

Look up murders in Japan, Not the weapon used.

You won't, You don't want the truth, You want to push your lying narrative and ignore the facts.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

The murder rate (regardless of weapon used) is 5x higher in the U.S. than Japan.

It's far easier to kill someone, intentionally or accidentally, with a gun than with a knife, or a candlestick, or a butter knife, or whatever ridiculous alternative implement you want to posit. That is plain common sense.

You cherry picked one country that fit your narrative, While ignoring every country that doesn't.

Murderers = murder. Pretty simple. But confusing to simpletons terrified of specific inanimate objects.

YOU told me to look up Japan, above!!! I’ve posted the equivalent data from so many other countries as well.

I’m not cherry-picking, moving the goalposts, or anything. I am just showing you data that you don’t like.

—Gun homicides are higher in the U.S.
—Overall homicides are higher in the U.S.

Me:Dead people don't care how they were murdered..." "They are dead"

You: Dead people rest easier when they are Stabbed, Run over, Bludgeoned, Blown up, Suffocated, And are working in buildings that had airplanes intentionally crashed into it by murderers.
But if the dead were shot, Blame the weapon not the murderer. Ban the gun and let the murderer go free. It isn't the murderers fault, The gun made him do it.

No. I'm the only one here who's expressed any concern at the fact that overall murder rates are higher in the United States.

One simple way to reduce that? Banning guns!
Another simple way? Invest in under-served communities and get people out of poverty!
Not willing to do either of those things? Then *you're* the one who'd rather watch people die!

You are lying, My links are generic, They don't list any specific country.

You have only posted gun data, Not murders in countries that have banned guns.

Murder is Murder regardless of the weapon used.

It's obvious you don't care about the victims, Your narrative is all that matters.

Here's a real list, Not your cherry picked one that fits your lying narrative,
The United States ranks 185th on that list of 230 Countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

You'll ignore anything anyone says to keep up your BS narrative.

The dead don't care about your feeling and cherry picked data. They are dead, And the dead have more intelligence than you.

Keep lying, You aren't saving any lives with your feelings.

It does not make sense to compare the U.S. with all other countries in the world on murder. The U.S. is much richer and has superior rule-of-law compared to the vast majority other countries. If we somehow still had a similar murder rate as, say, the Congo despite all these advantages, that would be truly abysmal.

The comparison that makes sense is to other developed, rich-world countries. And in that grouping of countries, we have a dramatically elevated homicide rates, as the charts I've posted show. Our lax gun laws and high rate of gun ownership make us an outlier in that group as well.

Guns kill people. There's always a human behind the trigger, of course. But guns make it that much easier.

Other brain dead liberals like you who have no common sense think banning guns will reduce the murder rates.
The thousands shot each year in gun banned cities like Chicago, Detroit And Baltimore prove facts don't care about your lies or your liberal feelings.

Your opinion: ban guns. Your ban will embolden murderers.

My opinion: Ban stupid liberals like you. My ban would save lives.

The "gun bans" you're talking about are pretty toothless given that our society is simply awash in guns.

We have more guns in this country than we have people. We would need a far, far more rigorous, and nation-wide, gun ban to truly make an impact. Including assault weapon bans and buybacks.

People like you will never go for that and that is a shame: but recognize your attachment to guns is what's causing more people to die needlessly every day.

You're moving the goalposts again. It isn't about ease, Dead people don't care how they were murdered and how easy they were murdered. They are dead. I guarantee it would be harder to murder them if they were able to defend themselves.
That is plain common sense. Someone you seem to lack.

It's not "moving the goalposts" when I directly answered a question you asked.

You: "Look up murders in Japan, Not the weapon used."
Me: *Posts content demonstrating 5x higher murder rate in U.S. vs. Japan regardless of weapon.*
You: "Dead people don't care how they were murdered..."

YOU are the one moving the goalposts.

More guns = more death. Pretty simple.

I'm done listening to your lies and excuses.

Gun bans don't work.

The gun bans in Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore prove it. The bans weren't toothless, The liberals who created the failed policies in those cities are toothless.

Cry yourself to sleep tonight because you failed to infringe on law abiding citizens rights to defend themselves. Have nightmares about inanimate objects. Wake up Tomorrow and lie all over again. No one cares about your liberal feeling, Especially murderers.

I'll sleep soundly knowing I have the right to defend myself against criminals that don't obey your idiotic gun bans.

I'll cheer that a legally armed citizen was able to stop a murderer after he shot 2 innocent people in a church.
You rant because there weren't more victims for you to stand on as you lie.

Sense doesn't make sense to stupid liberals like you.

Now your position is don't compare the murder rates to other countries after you lied and said America has the highest murder rate.

Now it's not about the murder rate, It's about how wealthy the country is.

Clang, Clang, Clang. Is that you moving the goalposts again, Or your feeble brain struggling to keep your lying narrative intact.
You're pathetic.

Every chart that I've posted on this topic thus far has been a comparison of the U.S. to other rich world countries. I've been consistent about this from the beginning.

The fact that you are only now beginning to understand that does not mean that I'm moving the goalposts.

Here's another one that I didn't post yet because I thought it'd be overkill. But here you are still hammering away, so: enjoy.

Keep posting your liberal charts.
You're an idiot. You destroyed your own argument.

You lied and said America has the highest murder rate because of guns.
When I proved you were lying you said other countries have a higher murder rate due to inadequate wealth.

You blamed the lack of wealth instead of guns, Proving guns aren't the cause of murders.

You're another brainwashed liberal who keeps moving the goalposts to fit your lying narrative.
You ignored my comment about the failed liberal gun bans in Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore because you can't defend it.
You liberals don't care about murder victims, You never have. You care about getting what you want no matter how many victims you step on to get it.

I didn't "ignore" your comment about Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore. This is what I said:

--"The 'gun bans' you're talking about are pretty toothless given that our society is simply awash in guns.

--"We have more guns in this country than we have people. We would need a far, far more rigorous, and nation-wide, gun ban to truly make an impact. Including assault weapon bans and buybacks."

I also never said the U.S. had the highest murder rate. I said it was higher than its peer rich-world countries. Which my charts show.

I mentioned wealth because it is relevant, too. So is rule of law (which many poorer countries don't have much of).

Guns, wealth, and strength of rule of law, are all factors. There may be more factors neither of us have mentioned yet. Why do people kill? It's a complex subject that may never be fully answered.

But if we really care about saving lives, then we need to work on all of them -- INCLUDING guns and INCLUDING fighting poverty.