wonderland red pill blue pill

I'll agree that they both suck.

But, right now we're under siege and Putin is making inroads into our country.

You decide which party is allowing this to happen.

Illegal immigrants and drugs have been making inroads into our country for years to the point they’re flooding in from our southern border.

You decide which party is allowing this to happen.

In the mean time, I’ll take the red pill.

Obama deported twice as many illegals per year as Trump so yes, I'll decide which party is allowing this to happen.

Good to mention drugs. The pervasive nature, American's personal gluttony for both political and drug addiction, these outside influences are given a route into our country.

Neither would have a chance were it not for Americans.

Democrats are against extending and enhancing our southern border wall. If we prevent so many illegal immigrants from getting here in the first place, there’s less people to deport.

Democrats are also in favor of giving illegal immigrants reason to stay with drivers licenses, in-state tuition, free healthcare and other welfare services.

Yes, Americans’ addiction to drugs and cheap labor are what’s driving the flow of illegal drugs and immigrants across the border. But it’s the Democrat party that is less inclined to do anything to stop it.

The wall will stop none of the current people crossing. It would be insignificant. Most people are overstaying their visa's. Unless you plan on extending the wall to 30,000' to stop air traffic?

Like I said before, Obama was twice as good at deportation. They didn't call him the deporter in chief for nothing.

None of the people crossing? Uh, yes it does. Don’t know where you get your information from but you’re wrong. Most of the people coming across our southern border don’t come by commercial flights and those that do at least entered legally through a port of entry and we have record of it and know who they are. The border wall isn’t meant to stop people from coming. It’s there to make them use the door.

Visa overstays account for 2/3rds of all undocumented immigrants. But let's spend billions of dollars on a 30' border wall so women with small children won't cross hundreds of miles of desert to climb a fence.

You're not making any sense given the facts of the situation.

2/3rds? You sure like to state bogus facts. Site your source.

Here’s one that sites one study that estimates about 44%. It also says “ There are no solid, long-term estimates of the visa overstay problem. When we wrote about this issue in August 2015, DHS told us it didn’t have statistics on visa overstays. But DHS has since issued some estimates. It said that about 629,000 people on visas who were expected to leave in fiscal year 2016 hadn’t done so by the end of that fiscal year (that’s out of 50.4 million arrivals).”
So that’s about 1.25%. Hardly 2/3rds.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

So, you think the only people who illegally cross our border are women with small children?
You’re the one whose not making sense.

In your link where you got your information (which had syntax issues making your paragraph confusing at best), the very next paragraph:

"The CMS report, written by Robert Warren, a former director of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service’s statistics division, says 65 percent of net arrivals — those joining the undocumented population — from 2008 to 2015 were visa overstays."

This is from your own link.

How could you not see this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/04/real-immigration-crisis-people-overstaying-their-visas/587485/

https://cmsny.org/publications/jmhs-visa-overstays-border-wall/

There has been a huge uptick since Trump took office in women w/children. Still, the numbers are much, much lower than they were in 2000. Less than half.

Yes, there are conflicting estimates. You completely ignored the other two I spelled out for you. The point is, your argument that a border wall is useless because of all the visa overstays is bogus.

Have you ever been to our southern border? Have you ever talked to people who work there? I have and they overwhelmingly agree that we need to beef up the border with physical barriers. So, go ahead and spew all the statistics you want. It won’t change the fact that we need to beef up our border wall.

This meme is regarding two colors of Koolaid being equally bad. It's not about immigration. Frankly I could care less if Trump got his wall or not. We're spending 750 billion on the military so wtf diff does it make anyway if we spend 20 billion on a useless wall the Mexicans will just use a sawzall and cut through anyway? Don't care.

If you think that the 3% of some of the hardest working population in this country is the problem we've got bigger problems right here. 3/4 of illegals are working. Many of them are paying into SS and will never be allowed to draw. But again, don't care.

Maybe for once stop concentrating so much on those below you as the problem and focus more on those who are suggesting you focus on those below you. Just who are those people in high places spouting off and so angry about this? You just might find there is a damn good reason they want to divert your attention and blame!