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OP said criticize. You said insulting.

Yes, because it’s always been about insults and not criticism.

So is the fact that non-whites make up 30% of the population but are responsible for 75% of violent crime an insult or a criticism?

just the facts. thank you

It shows that you are a racist asshole and perhaps incapable of realizing most crime is the result of poverty not race.... if whites had been slaves and victims of jim crow and the southern hate, then they would be the poor ones. .... grow up

Ah, the "poverty" myth lol

There's more poor whites than poor blacks but shills gotta shill.

I mean IMO that is just statistics, assuming you have a source for that. Others would disagree — and ask why are you framing it in terms of race when it could be done by race-neutral factors like poverty or family upbringing.

Oh, now you don't want to look at things through a prism of race. Just when it comes to institutionally racist policies like affirmative action, amirite?

I think when you’re aggressively weaponizing statistics against minority groups like BeegtymeRawkstah is doing in this thread, it’s worth considering whether there’s another approach.

Let’s be real, I’ve never seen him bring stats like this to any conversation until it comes time to put down minorities.

Affirmative action is still necessary to correct historical injustices, in my opinion. I did one short meme on it awhile back and I might do a longer one later.

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lol facts don't care about your feelings. And that's particularly interesting as the Dems were the ones to incentivize single motherhood in the home.

Yeah, he is a bit extreme but maybe he's tired of some on the left that want to ignore data they don't like.

I see. Some guy that had nothing to do with slavery/jim crow should lose out to a guy that had nothing to do with slavery/jim crow when they are more qualified for the job or entry into college. That's pure racism. Judging on skin color over merit. F**king disgusting. You guys cry about systemic institutionalized racism, providing no examples, yet SUPPORT the one that does. Really hilarious.

A Ben Shapiro quote! I am hurt.

For me it’s not about literal Jim Crow — obviously that ended awhile ago — or even whatever effects “modern-day racism” has, but about the lingering effects of Jim Crow (and slavery before that) which deprived generations of blacks from the opportunity to build up wealth like white families were able to during these decades.

So racism is tolerable in certain circumstances. Interesting.

You say that like every white person is rich and every black person is poor. Regardless, that has nothing to do with a white or asian kid not being accepted to university because someone with the 'right' skin, with a lesser sat score, are deemed more important or worthy. How about going with meritocracy and letting the chips fall where they may?

If we “go with meritocracy and let the chips fall where they may,” then we’re basically conceding that rich families are going to continue to aggregate wealth and educational opportunities, and the social and professional connections those bring, with each generation. Rich families pass on a ton of privilege and opportunities to their kids. They just do.

Yes, I know that not every white person is rich. But in the aggregate, white families are richer than black families — a lot richer. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/03/14/new-explanation-stubborn-persistence-racial-wealth-gap/%3foutputType=amp

I do think affirmative action should take income/wealth into account as well. Since without that, the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action are going to be the *already rich* black families. That doesn’t help anyone climb the social ladder.

But the single biggest “affirmative action” program at elite universities isn’t race-based, it’s the legacy admissions, donor preferences, and “athletic scholarships” for sports like LaCrosse and sailing that are largely played by rich kids.

Who cares? You do realize that many people get in with affirmative action, and can't hack it, then drop out wasting their time and money. So perhaps there are unintended consequences you're not considering.

Yes, legacies are an issue as well, as we've seen in the news, but I doubt it reaches the level of affirmative action admissions.

Once again, meritocracy should be the rule, it's the only fair way to do it. I don't believe in generational guilt or using racism to combat old racism.

Drop out rates at the most elite universities are exceedingly low. The students who do drop out typically do so to start businesses and such, not because they can’t hack the coursework. There are a lot of fully capable students of any race who want these elite school spots.

Outside of the elite college world, graduation rates for African-Americans overall are abysmally low, unfortunately. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/04/26/college-completion-rates-vary-race-and-ethnicity-report-finds

Of note, this survey includes community colleges and state schools, where affirmative action is less of a factor or just not present at all (there’s no real competition for community college spots and these institutions don’t really aim for racial diversity as an institutional goal).

We need to work on whatever social problems are causing these students to drop out before fingering affirmative action as the culprit.

Is the fact that since 2013, an average of 34 illegal aliens have been charged in North Carolina with 151 counts of raping or sexually assaulting a child per month based on police data from less than a third of the counties in the state alone an insult, or a criticism?

Sure but are you prepared to recite the equivalent data for whites and/or native-born? If not, why not?

I see, so all crime that is committed by non-whites must first be filtered by a comparison to whites. That's an interestingly unscientific and horribly disgusting bias you have there.

Your the one who brought those stats into the conversation, not me. I’m asking for some balance, that is all.

But again I think this can all be done with reference to poverty and family upbringing rather than injecting race into it

And if the stats are true, fine — but why do you take such glee in citing them? What exactly are you trying to prove here?

No, I asked you to define this information as either insult or criticism, really easy to do. But like a standard leftists, you produced a wormy gibberish salad instead to avoid admitting you're full of shit.

No, I don’t have to play your game.

My "game" of proving you're full of shit.

more facts. thank you

Is the fact that since 1990, a reported 53 specific girls aged 10 or younger have given birth in Latin America, but In the United States, with a population about 70 percent the size of the nine countries where those births occurred, there were four reported births to girls that young and three were to non-white immigrants an insult or a criticism?

Sounds like something that mainly happens in poor and undeveloped countries.

keep nailing it! thanks