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I'll sum it up in a scandal. | LIBERALS: TRIES TO IMPEACH TRUMP OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH NEW SCANDALS THAT DON'T EXIST, INSTEAD OF HELPING OUR COUNTRY; ALSO LIBERALS: | image tagged in goofy ill fuckin do it again,liberals,memes,politics,funny | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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Except that could be corruption and he asked for evidence of a crime be given to the AG.
2 ups, 5y,
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Yet... Trump asked about Biden's son... and only Biden's son. Hmmm.

If there is "corruption" there, which I highly doubt (did Trump sound cogent or informed at all during that portion of the transcript?), then it's a matter for the Ukrainian authorities. Or possibly the FBI. Not the very president who is gearing up to run against the guy's father.
1 up, 5y
Well indeed that is Ukraines issue, Hunter with his Burisma stunt, and Trump pointed it out. Now democrats are trying to shut up trump with another false scandal.
0 ups, 5y
Or the attorney general and he was asked to talk about corruption in the points given to him.
1 up, 5y,
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There is no corruption, that's the thing. They tried with Russia, failed. They're trying with Ukraine, failing.
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Except this time the Democrats don't have to prove anything, it's right there in the transcript of the call, plain to see.

The Democrats won't "succeed" because the GOP Senate has Trump's back no matter what and has the votes to block impeachment. The Democratic House is still doing its job as overseers and is creating a historical record. Everything is proceeding as it ought to.
1 up, 5y,
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Jesus, they keep changing the transcript. 1st it was quid pro quo, 2nd it was bribery, what transcript? If you make a transcript, keep it only to one, then "READ THE TRANSCRIPT"
0 ups, 5y,
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Changing the transcript? Not sure what you're referring to, unless there have been several different redacted versions floating around, which is not unusual.

I'm citing the official transcript released by the White House. No bullshit. No spin. imgflip.com/i/3ih0uj https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/read-white-house-transcript-trump-zelensky-call/index.html
0 ups, 5y,
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It's from CNN so it's bullshit. Something called fake news
0 ups, 5y,
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Really? Okay -- here's the relevant excerpt from the original unclassified version released directly from the White House. Compare those two sections if you care to read (spoiler alert, they're the same). This took me two seconds to Google.

Please admit CNN is legitimate -- and if your brainwashed mind can't do that, at least read next time before wasting mine.
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Oh yeah and here's the link too if your Google machine is broken https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
0 ups, 5y
CNN has been proven to be fake countless times
0 ups, 5y,
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CNN has been proved to be fake, literally everyone knows this.... but you?
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I don't have the time to prove that CNN's reportage is reality-based, and if I did, you wouldn't listen anyway.

I have presented you with incontrovertible proof that CNN reported the facts correctly in this instance, and you're still claiming fake news.
0 ups, 5y
IS this the same CNN who claims day after day "ThIs Is TrUmp'S EnD" when he keeps beating them everytime? The same CNN who told everyone the Russian Scandal was legit? Must I go on?
0 ups, 5y,
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Fact-based reporting and opinion journalism are different. Statements like "This is Trump's End" or "the Russian Scandal was legit" (cite?) fall in the latter category. You're entitled to disagree with any opinions aired on CNN just as I'm entitled to disagree with opinions aired on Fox News. That doesn't mean their entire body of reporting is fake news or suspect.
0 ups, 5y
I agree, politics just tears people apart. It's a sad reality,
0 ups, 5y,
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Free speech, one of America's amendments, can't impeach a president for what he said/asked.
1 up, 5y
Exactly, my friend.
1 up, 5y,
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Light cannot escape the stupidity of this argument.
0 ups, 5y,
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Ok, the liberal go to the instant "your argument is stupid". You can't prove my argument wrong therefore you call it stupid? It is right and hopefully some part of your mind sees this and accepts it so I will tell you again, and hopefully you can be civilized or just concede this argument Free speech is one of America's amendments, you can't impeach a president for what he said/asked.
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Your argument is barely worth a reply, if you really need me to spell it out...

The First Amendment doesn’t protect all speech. Speech in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy, for instance.

Also: The First Amendment is about what laws Congress can or can’t pass and says nothing about presidential behavior.
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The president can say whatever he wishes, and now the Dems are trying to Impeach trump in a 2nd scandal when the 1st russian one lasted 3 years and nothing. Don't you think that they could actually try to work with trump and actually help our country?
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First amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Youtubers have gone around trying to prove the first amendment. They go to public places with police, or synagogues with security guards. They video and don't say anything or they might throw out a couple of degrading words. They are able to do this since they are protected by the first amendment. So in theory, Trump could video Biden while on public property and he would be able to do so because of the First Amendment.

I'll quote you "The First Amendment doesn’t protect all speech". You are basically saying some speech can be prohibited? The first amendment says "or abridging the freedom of speech". This means that all speech is allowed. Sorry but facts don't care about feelings.
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You can’t shout “fire” in a crowded theater. You can’t angrily threaten to kill someone. You can’t plot a bank robbery, or plan the overthrow of the U.S. government through violent means. Child pornography. Defamation. Perjury. Blackmail. These are speech-based crimes with actual definitions, up to and including treason.

So no, the First Amendment doesn’t protect everything and it certainly doesn’t protect a President abusing his office.

Did they really not teach you this stuff in law school? Oh wait, I went to law school. You didn’t, clearly.
0 ups, 5y,
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THE president never abused his office, even Ukrainian President said NO QUID PRO QUO. NO abuse in office, you should be thankful for the great economy he has produced. One of his several great achievements.
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It's still a "high crime or misdemeanor" to attempt to commandeer a foreign government's judicial resources to investigate a political adversary, even if a direct quid pro quo can't be proven.
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He never attempted, he only asked the Ukrainian President! Ukraine can control Ukraine, and US can control US,
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"He only asked!"

He applied pressure on his very first phone call with a brand-new elected leader. There was therefore a huge power differential between Trump and Zelensky. And a huge power differential between the U.S. and Ukraine, as the latter relies upon the U.S. in many ways for military support from possible Russian takeover.

Add all that up, and they amount to powerful reasons for Zelensky to open a politically-motivated investigation against Hunter Biden at Trump's request, even in the absence of evidence. The fact that Zelensky didn't is a tremendous credit to him.
0 ups, 5y
That's because Zelensky didn't have too, the investigation was ongoing before biden threatened ukraine to fire the prosecutor or he'd withold the aid.
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You can ask someone to do something for you, that isn't illegal. Trump didn't threaten anyone, he just asked for an investigation. I'm sure you libtards would understanding requesting for investigations. It wasn't illegal to investigate Trump and the collision with Russia, so why would it be illegal for Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden's son
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It's illegal to ask someone to rob a bank for you, or to violently overthow the U.S. government.

The crux of the issue is this: Trump tried to re-direct a foreign state's judicial resources against a political adversary's son. If he was truly concerned about corruption in Ukraine -- as opposed to kicking up political dirt on a former Vice-President's son, which is much more obviously what this is about -- then Trump should have, at most, asked the FBI to investigate. However, even that concept is a bit troubling. The FBI is perfectly capable of making those judgments independently without presidential direction, and the FBI sure as hell knows a lot more about what is going on on the ground in the world of corruption than the Cheeto-in-chief.

When the U.S. President swings, he can cause a lot of collateral damage. That's why it's important to have a person in the Oval Office who has a good sense of temperament and restraint, and for the other branches of government to enforce the constitutionally-defined limits on his power.
1 up, 5y
I have issues with this

1. Last time I checked it was Hunter who was hurting Ukraine with Burisma, and BIDEN was the one who threatened to withold aid to Ukraine if they prosecuted his son, so if anything BIDEN abused his power.

2. Trump and his 'Collateral Damage' made the Economy the best it has ever been, all time low employment, (for whites, african-americans, hispanics, and asians) and winning the trade war against china.

3. Not to mention the people who attacked trump in the Russian Scandal might be criminally charged, if you ask me, the democrats are more corrupted.
1 up, 5y,
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And you can ask a foreign government to help you, that is not against the constitution, however if it was a quid pro quo, (which it was not proved and invalid) then it'd be illegal.
0 ups, 5y
Disagree. The U.S. has the most powerful judicial resources in the world. The fact that Trump would go running to the brand-new president of Ukraine for help rather than our own highly-trained and specialized anti-corruption lawyers is laughable and really shows you where is head is at (up his ass).

If the FBI was referred the case and determined there was sufficient evidence to proceed against Hunter Biden, then needed Ukraine's cooperation in some way, then the FBI should have been the ones to make that request.
0 ups, 5y
BECAUSE the democrats won't proceed with it! Biden is their front run candidate,
1 up, 5y
True patriot!
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"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
- Albert Einstein
1 up, 5y
Albert was a democrat too, lol
1 up, 5y
but he was smart enough to figure out basics.
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