Vince, I agree and anybody who listened to the testimony of the hearsay evidence should concur! But they don't and along with Shifty Schiff think that "I heard, I thought, I felt, I presumed, I believe" should qualify as factual input...wrong!
Here is a video where you can go to 3:50 and Ambassador Sondland says directly what he said (and meant) to Rep. Mike Turner. Irrefutable!!!! Sondland also said, that he "presumed" but had ZERO EVIDENCE. Cheers!
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/the-view-hosts-squabble-as-voters-turn-against-impeachment/?utm_campaign=TPI112319Sat&utm_source=criticalimpact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=0e1d91b656010648a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI&fbclid=IwAR0CvwFQekgVtTsxRxH6J3HhJQSlDPzGO54tGDref-UrsaofiUq0bwUHwr0