Dr. Strangelove says...

Seconded

This should be a response comment on every Hillary meme from the Right.

I'm all in favor of that and I'll happily participate.

The hypocrisy and double-standards of the Left are truly awe-inspiring things to witness. I love the blanket statement that even the mere mention of the Ice Queen, the wretched twice failed Democrat presidential hopeful, is enough to dismiss someone’s entire argument. What a childish notion. “Lost the debate”? The Left DOESN’T “debate” anymore. They’ve found that simply dictating is a quicker more effective means to advancing their agenda. If you disagree, it’s simple, you’re a racist, homophobe, xenophobe, islamaphobe, deplorable. Have a differing opinion on our “policies”? Well, you’re a terrible person and you’ll be castigated by the complicit propaganda arm of “the party” aka, the press. Debate….pffft, please. They’re nothing but obstructionists. Whiny holier-than-thou elitists, the self-proclaimed “resistance”.

We’re not sure what the awesome platform of the Left is anymore, they don’t do much of anything because they’re the “resistance”. What DO they stand for anyhow? Seems to the rest of us that it’s…
• Cramming sexuality down pre-pubescent children’s throats. Instead of, what do you want to be when you grow up? We now have...Suzie, I know you’re only 7, but have you considered changing your gender yet? No? Well lets go sit and have a frickin’ story about it read to you by a drag queen decked out in full garb and see what you think about it, sound good? Here, take these pills, they’ll help ‘fix’ you. After all, gender is only a ‘social construct’.

• Steering the USA towards the cliff of Socialism that bottoms out in the abyss of Communism.

• Using fear of a fake man-made climate crisis to institute absurd policies that do nothing more than devastate the US economy. Stop scaring our children sick-o’s, they’re impressionable and they’ve got enough to worry about without your drummed up, garbage apocalypse story.

• Abolishing the sovereignty of our nation.

• Driving the wedge of identity between the people. So many victim pools to choose from, have you found yours yet? Good we knew you would! Now, don’t forget to vote DEM, because we are here to ‘protect’ you from the oppression of the evil white males!

• Unlimited taxpayer funded abortions.

• Vilifying wealth, religion, capitalism and American exceptionalism. In their minds, America "was never great".

Yes, and the Right have used similar tactics. I know. Because I did. And we were wrong.

I'll address your talking points...

I actually agree that the extremes some on the Left have gone to appropriate transgender culture into children is deplorable. I'm specifically against a parent deciding the gender of a child NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE POLITICAL AGENDA IS. If a biological boy chooses to wear dresses and makeup? Let him. If a girl wants to keep her hair short and wear whatever is called "boys clothes" nowadays, let 'em. (In my time, women wore men's clothes when they worked. We didn't care. And we were in the south. Can't work a farm in a dress!!!) Subjecting children to chemicals that change their biology? No. I'm sorry, that just cannot happen. If the child decides this is what they want to do and they have gone through every evaluation and educated them on all the hardships they may have in life by doing such things... AND they are no less than 16 years of age. MAYBE you have an argument to disuade me. But otherwise, I think only once society considers you an independent adult, should you be able to decide such things.

THAT SAID! I have no problem with transgenders raising children. I have no problem with children getting to know transgenders. Teachers being transgender. Transgenders educating children on what it is to be transgender, just as long as they don't sugarcoat it. Most of my peers would disagree with that. But if transgenders are to become more common, if the Right truly care about such a thing, then they're going to have to stomach transgender culture being SOMEWHAT exposed to children. As long as it does not harm them, then I see zero reason to be so radically opposed to transgenders.

Moving on...

First off, thank for your measured, polite responses. It’s refreshing and a rare thing here. Seems that we agree on a lot of things. Most of the points I was making about the radical left, (which is seemingly the entire democrat party these days) and their stances on subjects can be boiled down to a singular, similar tactic. Remove all nuance from discussion and polarize the people. On sexuality if you, as an individual or business, hold traditional Christian viewpoint on gay marriage, you’re a barbaric hateful intolerant person and you should be vilified and boycotted. If you think that children shouldn’t be coached into questioning their gender, again, you’re a villain. Personally, I’m not a practicing religious type person and I don’t care what two consenting adults do with one another sexually. That’s between them and their higher power, if they believe in such a thing.

For me though, it’s gone too far with our children. I’m not ‘radically opposed’ to transgenders. I’m radically opposed to children and people living in fear of retribution for using the wrong gender pronoun or proclaiming their allegiance to a faith which doesn’t condone such behavior. I honestly think that the real homosexual and trans communities wish that everyone would just leave them out of the political bickering and let them live their lives in peace. But no, the Left is dead set on beating that divisive drum on tv and in print, daily.

I am deeply opposed to socialism. To a point. FDR had the right idea but supporting our crippled and old on a social system, provided they worked for that system, or those systems worked to help those who were temporarily disabled. Those without money, and without the ability to work, are still people and need help too. While this has created something of a wellfare state, I've yet to meet anyone who is "proud to not work for a living." Then again, maybe I just don't know enough people. And while I'm sure such people exist, I don't think it's quite that big of a problem the Right make it out to be.

But here is the crux, I think our healthcare system is broken. And I'm not seeing any solutions other than government-run healthcare. The Republicans had no problem with government healthcare until Obama adopted it. Now that they've sabotaged their own healthcare plan, this has left the door open to socialized medicine. And considering the cost of my medical bills, and those of my children and grandchildren, I've got to start to wonder if maybe we've reached a point where healthcare should be socialized. It is incredible where healthcare costs are at. Between that and the rising cost of food and board; something is going to give if we keep abandoning the middle-class and the poor to the Prison Industrial Complex.

My opinion on climate change. I have serious doubts that it is a hoax. It would be the first global conspiracy that I give any real credit to. For the first time in the history of the human race, we're united on one noble goal. Save the planet. To me, if there is a smokescreen at all, the scam is not intended to hurt the US economy. But to convert us from a point where we're reliant on fossil fuels to alternate forms of energy. I would prefer a smooth transition into that rather than the abrupt chaos that would ensue if we do not adopt alternate forms of energy purely to save face on our economy. It's also economically hazardous to rely on a dying industry.

Social security is one thing, and that’s not exactly what I was referring to. Personally, I’d like to keep more of my hard earned money and not pay so much of it into SS. Let me worry about saving for my own future…personal accountability and consequences for my actions. Liberty. What I was referring to are the Left’s radical proposals like the Green New Deal, the communist loving Bernie Sanders and his dreams of tearing down capitalism and the America, and crazies like Maxine Waters saying, “Guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal would be about socializing … mmm hmm. … Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies.” Elizabeth Warren vilifies private business and capitalism all the time…”you didn’t build that!” You don’t deserve all the wealth, because…it’s just too much.

None of this craziness is called out by the fake news media for what it is. The vast, vast majority of the influencing outlets in our country are lock-step, in-line with the left on these topics. Why? Because that type of rhetoric sells to the demographic they desire most and again, it’s just another example of polarizing through identity politics…you’re poor BECAUSE others are rich. Individual behavior and merit apparently have nothing to do with it. Nope, it’s racism, racism everywhere.

The attribution of a changing climate to the actions of man is false. Elevated CO2 levels accompany a warming trend, NOT cause it. There is plenty of scientific evidence to support this, plenty of scientists who support this, they’re just not in “the party” and are ignored and passed off as fringe alts. The most insidious power of the media is power to ignore. The “science” is not “settled”, no matter how many lefties scream it from the rooftops. If you have grandchildren then you probably remember the 15 other fake climate crisis hoaxes they’ve gotten terribly wrong since the 70’s. I’ll spare you the list.

Humans will overcome energy obstacles and America will lead the way, so long as our precious system isn’t abandoned by global elitists. What you DON’T do is cripple the entire world economy because of some fake ass 12y doomsday apocalypse prediction made by fear-mongering power hungry politicians and government funded “scientists” who routinely demonstrate their confirmation bias practices in selective, or just down right falsified, data presentation. It’s a lie. And no, sorry, I’m not going to spend hours doing homework for anyone to dredge up all the sources I’ve read over the years in support.

"Abolishing the sovereignty of our nation."

I would argue the left and the right have been guilty of this for some time in a multitude of ways. Republicans and Democrats seem okay with foreign powers interfering in our election. Considering the range of our influence, it makes sense that our competitors would see such influence end by exposing, globally, that our government no longer represents it's citizens but that our country is, essentially, for sale to the highest bidder.

Driving the wedge of identity between the people. So many victim pools to choose from, have you found yours yet? Good we knew you would! Now, don’t forget to vote DEM, because we are here to ‘protect’ you from the oppression of the evil white males!

Again, the right have been very good at playing like they don't do this as well. Using anti-PC culture to basically reestablish the safeguards put in place that specifically targeted individuals who had irrational hatred to a group of individuals. No matter what group it was. Identity politics rose in response to laws being passed in the late-20th century and into the 21st century that specifically targeted the less fortunate. Raising prison sentences from the left, outlawing gay marriage on the right, mandated healthcare hurts the poor from the left, and banning transgenders from... military service and bathrooms. Whenever we target individuals in our government, identity politics is a natural reaction to that. Remember when Trump was elected and he claimed to support "The Forgotten Man"? Remember "Joe the Plumber?" These are forms of identity politics as well. The left are guilty of it, as well as the right. AND I AGREE... while identity politics ARE only a response, their reactionary methods to placate the harsh government mandates that manipulated these individuals to flock to political party, THEY ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE.

So I actually agree with you on this.

Unlimited taxpayer funded abortions. *Sigh*

I can see why you would not want any type of government healthcare to pay for such things. But to say that abortions are never medically necessary is just plain ignorance. I've liked the rules we've had for abortion for the last 50 years. Moving the line forward or backward, I am firmly against. The Right have made a big deal out of nothing in regards to the "one doctor/ one parent" STATE DECIDED ruling. I thought the Right were about state's rights? Cheap shot, I withdraw the question. It seems to me, that very few people are still alive that knew what it was like before Roe v Wade. It was a time, not unlike now, only instead of civil dissidence being online, it was in the streets. Think BLM but five times as big. And going on for more than a year and a half. It lasted decades. And while you may disagree with taxpayer money to fund abortions, the appalling need to criminalize doctors and women who do is equally disgusting to me.

I didn’t, nor would I, say that abortion is “never medically necessary”. But let’s be honest, that is not the real debate going on here. States should decide, not the Fed. And the end-run around they’re making now via Planned Parenthood is a disgrace. They ARE funding millions of abortions with taxpayer money.

Again, this is just another polarizing issue used to demonize religious people and the ‘right” in general. I’m not quite sure how the left was able to convince their minions that life doesn’t begin at conception. I thought they were all about science? I’m also confused as to why the male counterpart in any pregnancy isn’t afforded the slightest bit of influence over the decision? Why is that? What happened to equality? Just another example of the left’s hypocrisy.

Vilifying wealth, religion, capitalism and American exceptionalism. In their minds, America "was never great".

No one is doing that. I believe that sentiment was by Cuomo? A Democratic governor? And I'll leave you with one final agreement on this.

F**K THAT DUMBASS! Just as dumb as Beto O'Rourke's statement. And F**K THAT GUY TOO!

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Sorry for the repost. Again, if you don't like what I'm saying, scroll on by. Downvoting me on my own f**king meme is pretty f**king disrespectful.

I disagree. Some of the most popular 2020 dem candidates and most vocal leaders on the Left strongly oppose capitalism and routinely chastise and demonize wealth, (despite being filthy rich themselves). Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Maxine Watters, AOC and the Squad, Beto, Harris…etc. etc. In fact, you’d be hard pressed to find one Dem that would give you even a paragraph summary of how much they believe in capitalism and American exceptionalism. They’d make some canned, bs, well yeah of course, statement, then follow it up with how unfair it all is and how income inequality is rampant and racism, sexism everywhere! Polarization and divisiveness, that’s all they have.

Last thing, I’m sorry that a downvote of your meme has upset you, I just didn’t agree that the mere mention of Hillary was grounds for “losing the debate”. To make up for it, I'll upvote every one of your intelligent, thoughtful replies here. ;)