Trump Putin NOT On Our Side

USSR to Russia to Trump

Remember, in 1992 the Soviet Union had just collapsed and many billionaires were created almost overnight by looting the resources of the defunct communist empire. The lines between shrewd business dealings and organized crime were difficult to draw, including in Little Odessa.

“Look, back in the day it was impossible not to be connected to criminals,” Leonid Nor, vice president of the Odessan diaspora office in Brighton Beach, told The Daily Beast earlier this month. 

In at least one instance, Kislin helped newly minted billionaires from the defunct USSR find useful places to put their money. Not in commodities but in luxury apartments. 

Real estate was a favorite safe haven for fugitive Russian monies since they could convert mountains of cash into opulent residential addresses with few reporting requirements. 

Nobody understood that better than Donald Trump, who had been cultivating Russian and other ex-Soviet clients from the beginning. But in 1998 he was struggling to survive. His casino and resort operations in Atlantic City were in deep trouble, and to recover he had to launch an enormous construction project—what would be at the time the world’s tallest all-residential building: Trump World Tower opposite the United Nations in New York. It was a huge gamble. Trump was under a mountain of debt to German banks. But the apartments were especially attractive to oligarchs who had just seen the ruble collapse and were rushing to get even more of their money out of Russia.

That’s where Kislin stepped in. As Bloomberg Businessweek reported, he offered his former Soviet compatriots personal mortgages, which presumably allowed them the time to move their money and, if they chose actually to be in New York, to live in over-the-top Trumpian luxury.

“We understand who Kislin is. He is considered to be a thief from New York, very well connected to organized crime,” Daria Kaleniuk, one of Ukraine’s most articulate corruption fighters, told The Daily Beast.

I don't think you yet know where the real corruption is. It's like Ross Perot - the only real threat to the system is an outsider who doesn't depend on puppet string money.

And the media isn't telling the truth about Putin either, it's a similar sort of story, except you'll never get to hear about the shift from Hillary's "reset" to realizing he wasn't going to betray Russia to the central bankers, so now we demonize him every way we can, a lot of lies included. Worth thinking about.

I am VERY flamliar with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. While he did well in 1992 there are very particular reasons why he faded that year and went NO WHERE in 1996.

It is a MISTAKE to think some Billionaire is going to know how to effectively govern and be influence free just because they have money. Trump is clearly NOT smart.

Innocent people don’t act like Trump.

Trump's get out of jail card is to turn on PUTIN.

Trump will come and go, Putin represents a much larger issue: a decently large country where Government, Business, and Mob have become so intertwined, it poses a threat to other countries who have to deal with it.

So much of the US's government is based on transparency and the Rule of Law, so much of business is based on trust. The Mob and self dealing are a cancer we can NOT allow to take hold.

Remember we are a country of LAWS and NO ONE is about the law.

Look to Putin, his career has been with the USSR's intel, he rose up through the ranks. Then he went after the press murdering reporters. This is NO accident folks.

For every time you point to an Anna Politkovskaya, I'll point to a Gary Webb or Andrew Breitbart or dozens of journalists WE ALSO have assassinated. I think the problem is you do not yet appreciate the scale of the corruption we have here - to which Trump is a very real threat, which you can measure by the desperation of their reaction and the corruption of the MSM.

Until you understand international central banking, you will not understand the spin on our current relations with Russia. But we have no business holding them to standards that we - as even Trump has said - don't apply to ourselves.

Sounds like you are very knowledgeable about Central Banks. Can you share the knowledge you have of them? Thanks

It would take a very long time. Think of the system however as a leech upon the entire world, content to subsist on a few percent per annum - of the entire aggregate wealth. It is designed to keep the world's population in perpetual debt slavery.

Honestly, it could turn into a book. If in fact you have a serious interest in the subject - if - start with the story of the one in the US with G. Edward Griffin's book, The Creature from Jekyll Island. Disregard secondary sources prior to reading it, and understand the agenda in keeping the truth suppressed - including the BS official wisdom that the Fed is in anyway a part of the US government instead of a private corporation owned by the banks themselves.

Happy education.

anyway = any way. Also keep in mind that an agenda of trillions of dollars laughs at people who think in millions and billions.

Are you confusing the Fed with the FHLBB?

There is a good reason I had never heard of Griffin. What a waste. BA degree, that is it. Most people in econ professors have a PhD

Check out these WARNING SIGNS on his bio:
--Griffin has been a member and officer of the John Birch Society (JBS) for much of his life
--Griffin worked as a writer for Curtis LeMay, vice presidential running mate for George Wallace during his 1968 United States Presidential campaign
--He is an HIV/AIDS denialist,
--He also believes that the biblical Noah's Ark is located at the Durupınar site in Turkey

Sorry but you actually swallow this crap as being real? What a panty waste, dead end. I was hoping you knew what you were talking about but YOU DON'T. You are not close eve remotely close to dealing with reality.

Do you know what MV = PQ is?

Argumentum ad hominem = fallacy. If you don't grasp arguing to the argument itself, you are to be as curtly dismissed as you have dismissed.

I fall into the Austrian category, not Keynesian.

You answered nothing in regard to the gradual leeching, and seem to have no interest, because what the hell does the theft of trillions of dollars from the masses matter. We come from clearly different angles.

Ad hominem = fallacy......It is called checking your sources, know if you are dealing with some one who knows what they are talking about. If someone is BS, I don't waste my time reading what some fool wrote. Noah's Ark-----crack pot. Sorry for being a realist.

Austrian category----what is this? Gradual leeching----what are you talking about? Is this a language difference? Are you from the US?

Do you know what MV = PQ is?------there is a reason why I asked this question. Please address. Thanks

Yes, and I believe it's essentially sound.

Leech = bloodsucking parasite. You figure it out.

You dismiss others as crackpots and you don't even know what the Austrian school of economics is? You too may be justly dismissed.

Hey CR01 why is there no response button to your post? What does MV = PQ mean?

I am involved with applied economics in the US Business World. I did a search of Austrian Economics and I can see why I have never heard of it. It is a waste, nothing practical. Sorry but here is the reality of the situation.

1. Mainstream economists have argued that modern-day Austrian economists are excessively averse to the use of mathematics and statistics in economics.

2. Economist Paul Krugman has stated that they are unaware of holes in their own thinking because Austrians do not use "explicit models"

I recently did a fair amount of work regarding ECB's RWA for PNB-Pabis. Never came across Austrian Economics. Feel free to continue to play in that irrelevant sand box all you want.

Are you confusing the Fed with the FHLBB?

You're joking, right? No.

If I was joking, you would know it.

Your statement does not make sense: "including the BS official wisdom that the Fed is in anyway a part of the US government instead of a private corporation owned by the banks themselves" .

Are you saying the Fed is a private corp?

I am. Clearly you did not know this.

Its shareholders - largely private banks like Goldman Sachs, Paribas, etc. - were accidentally even disclosed during the 80s/90s.

With ignorance like that, you demonstrate yourself in NO position to dismiss someone like Griffin, who has done deep homework where you have clearly done none.

You don't know what you don't know.

Work on grasping this, even if it violates your preconceptions, even if it takes effort: they are lying.

I guess "I am not a crook" is all it takes to throw off someone like you easily. Do you honestly believe a multi-trillion dollar theft operation, masquerading as a chartered entity loosely like the USPS, is actually going to tell you the truth about itself?

I already told you what they are. Following the white rabbit is your job, not mine.

Second and final time: dismissing someone as a crackpot (along circularl lines I already explained) is a fallacy and evasion of the issues themselves. Maybe I can't help you there either, it's apparently difficult for you.

"Conspiracy": see above. When you become a more competent researcher - which heavily involves going to primaries instead of secondaries and tertiaries - you will know the origin of this canard. Till then, enjoy your blue pill.

Your disprovable self-satisfying dismissals of "right wing" (false) and European (also false) should serve to help wake yourself up too. But few are equal to that kind of self awareness.

The plug could yet get pulled on the sheep at large, however, ready or not.

Again, no reply button, so the following relates to your statement.

I asked a Y/N question about the Fed, is it a private corp----your response is YES. Please get up to speed on the workings of the Fed. To quote them:

"The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone. The Federal Reserve was created in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act to serve as the nation's central bank. The Board of Governors in Washington, D.C., is an agency of the federal government and reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress."

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

Regarding Griffin, what a panty waste. The guy is a crack pot, a BS'er. Sorry but someone who is a John Birch'er and is expounding on Noah's Ark----oh for Christ Sake, can you not see this sort of person is garbage. Sorry for breaking the bubble but I have a good econ background and have applied it successfully in Banking for decades. I have no time--nor patience--- for wild hair, right wing conspiracy nuts.

When you want to talk business and reality, sure. But push BS theory and conspiracy crap, well dude, you have come to the wrong place.

One question for you----why does this IMG attract so many right wingers like yourself? How did you hear about it----I take it you are in Europe. Thanks