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Haven't heard so many bad attempts at discrediting skeptics since Baghdad Bob | THIS IS HOW MANY PRISONERS HAVE EVER BEEN TAKEN OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH ONLY DAYS AFTER ATTEMPTING SUICIDE; WHY WAS EPSTEIN THE FIRST ONE, AND WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THOSE WHO CLAIM THIS IS NORMAL? | image tagged in epstein,death,suicide | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
499 views 21 upvotes Made by Stavka100 5 years ago in politics
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Bogus statistic
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Not really a scientific study, just spoke to a few POs I know and a Psychiatrist. They all confirmed what is actually a no-brainer. If you want to hear something bogus, find someone who will tell you that a prison will take someone off of suicide watch within a month of an attempted suicide.
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Epstein’s own lawyers requested that he come off suicide watch and he passed psych evaluation before prison agreed.
I’ve seen plenty of people who say that suicide watch is not indefinite due to stress on prisoner as well as high need for manpower. In this case, prison was short-staffed already.
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I can see that you're regurgitating the media spin, but you must have at least some curiosity as to why all of these firsts have happened simultaneously. What else do you believe, that it is common to have certain cameras fail both times the same person tried suicide? Since when do lawyers request that their client come off suicide watch? Find me ONE other case this happened. How do you pass a psych evaluation days after trying to commit suicide? You say "I'm fine" and the doctor says "ok"? If these things happened, clearly people involved are responsible for his murder, because things don't work like you describe.

High profile prisoners, like billionaires at the top of the news cycle are constantly monitored even without a suicide watch. The things you say just don't happen without someone giving orders to do things out of the norm.
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I think some of your facts are wrong. From what I’ve seen, the cameras were not pointing into cell. I haven’t heard anything about failure. This is logical because they would probably be trained on doors rather than into cells.

I don’t think it would be unusual for lawyers to ask for end fo suicide because it’s harsh. No blankets, no clothes, no privacy for bathroom, lights on all the time.

Epstein was a master manipulator. It doesn’t surprise me that he could con a prison psychologist. Conning people was what he did.

OTOH if he was subject of attempted murder a few weeks ago, why didn’t he say so and identify his attackers?

If someone wanted him silent, why wait until he was in jail? Why kill him rather than Giuffre who is outside and the one making the allegations? She would be easier target.

Epstein’s death doesn’t silence his records, which is where we got news of Trump and Clinton’s trips with him. Epstein himself wasn’t talking.

Finally, Epstein was a man who had the world at his fingertips until recently. At the end, he had only a humiliating trial and dying in prison to look forward to. I think he chose to speed up the process.

I tend to think that government is incompetent and that seems to be where the evidence is pointing here. There is zilch to indict murder except speculation.
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You're making a lot of guesses just to make your story fit. It is simply not how it works, and you won't find any examples to justify your guesses.

The only one speculating about anything is you, because you're making up excuses to make the story in your head work.
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THIS IS HOW MANY PRISONERS HAVE EVER BEEN TAKEN OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH ONLY DAYS AFTER ATTEMPTING SUICIDE; WHY WAS EPSTEIN THE FIRST ONE, AND WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THOSE WHO CLAIM THIS IS NORMAL?