Doxology: I Sing in Hymns, How do you Worship?

https://imgflip.com/i/36r9fp tbis hey can you read thos for me

Dear Brother, don't reply to this. I've already seen the dialogue between you and Kate, but I trusted that you would ask for help if you needed it. And so far, you did not. I've waited for two weeks, and nothing happened.

If you need help, don't be afraid to ask me, Beckett, or anyone you know who has experience or posseses knowledge of.

And this is why you need to find a church. Or else, you wouild only have your father.

Now I'm going to join you in talking to her. Watch me and learn. give me a sigal if you've read this.

Okay im trying my best

Regarding church, move out of state if you must. Right now, I'm making my reply to Kate. I suggest you put more time in studying the Gospel.

The Gospel touches on every basic fundamentals of scripture.

I've just got done with my replies to Kate; ready for you to read.

Yeah its tough out there

Good morning, Pierre. The following is one of the very best apologetics site I've seen yet. It has helped me answer some of the most difficult questions.

https//:CARM.org

Now, on the Gospel, you've heard of the Four Spiritual Laws, correct?

Hmmm. Refresh my mind

https://www.gotquestions.org/four-spiritual-laws.html

The four spiritual laws is good for handing out in street evangelism, but it is a flawed presentation as it not complete . Nevertheless, it contained most of the Gospel message.

I will give you what is missing and explain to you why it is important

If you can both master it, meaning, if you could not only remember what it says but also know where it is found in scripture, then you know a significent portion of the fundamentals of your faith.

That to me is 1/2 of it. The other half is the Trinity and the Four Solas. Master all of it, you can defend your faith.

Hi Pierre, I'm sorry this has taken long, but this is my Part 2 of the Gospel message

MAN/SIN
Man was created originally without... sin. When He was naked along with Eve, that was sin but he was completely ignorant of it. Thus sin wasd not impiuted, but because he had committed sin, the generations after him inherited what's called Adamic Sin, Original Sin, or Sin nature. Sin was therefore imputed (Romans 5:12-14). They were born in Sin (Genesis 8:21).

As you know, Sin is missing the mark of God's righteousness (Romans 3:23). The verse in Romans is very well known to you. Sin also acts as a barrier that separates the guitly from God (Isaiah 59:1-2). But what you may not know is how heinous sin is.

One sin, is enough to condemn you for an eternity in Hell (James 2:10). The scripture doesn't explicitly say why, but to me, if you've broken one commandment, you're capable of breaking all of them. All, not just the moral commandments but all 613+ commandments. To break one, is to violate all.

But even without the Law, will he also be judged for the commandments were written in his heart (Genesis 1:26 & Romans 2:11-16). His conscience will bear record against him (1). For this reason, no one entered into heaven (John 3:13); including the OT saints.

God expected Moral Perfection; those who obey the law are blessed in that they've come to know righteousness, but it served also as a curse for they are bound mroally to keep it (Deuteronomy 27:26), and the worst of offenders, are hung on a tree (Deuteronomy 21:22-23).

Note:
1. This is why every religion has roughly the same moral ethics, because we instinctly know what is right and wrong. .

Part 3

JESUS CHRIST
As you know, Jesus is fully God (John 1:1-3), the 2nd person of the Trinity (Isaiah 48:16-17), and fully man (John 1:14 & Hebrews 4:15)

Jesus did not just come to save, but also to fulfill the law of Moses (Deuteronomy 18:18). Everything Jesus had said in His ministry on earth, is, the Mosaic Law (Matthew 5:17-20). In chapter 5 in Matthew He restated the law and refined them.

He fulfilled the Law by refining it, and also living by it. And yet, for our sake He was condemned by it. He was treated as a criminal from His arrest to the cross. Why did He do this? Because there must be payment for sin, and He alone could pay it.

Now He did not pay it by merely being scourged with a specialized whip, a "Cat of Nine Tales", being beaten, humiliated, made to carry the beam, and being nailed to the cross. He paid for it when God poured His wrath upon Him (Isaiah 53:10). He turned away because He became Sin on our behalf (2 Corinthains 5:21). At this Jesus screamed "Why hast thou forsaken me?!"

After that, in John 19:30, "It is finished" said He, and He died.

When He had said those words, He didn't just say it because His "Passion" has ended, but because future believers are made free from the Law. He came to fulfill the Law, and then die to the Law, so that the Law would no longer be a curse for us (Galatians 3:10-13).

I see it this way. God allows sin because he had given us free will. We sinned and since we are his children he was able to pay our debts

Hmm... OK, do you feel that the doctrine of Orignal Sin is unbiblical?

Actually the better questions that have I provoked you ito say what you've said here?

Do you feel that the doctrine of Original Sin takes away from the Free Will of man?

If so, can you tell me why that is?

Yes

Well i deny that God makes sin caus3 he is not sin. I believe entirely on free will

Pierre, we need to talk.

That seemed to be unrelated to the doctrine in question.

Pierre, can you tell me why the doctrine of Original Sin nullifies the Free Will of man?

K?

Thank you for coming. It seemed to me that whenever you are unable to answer, you change subject or leave without returning.

The reason why it appears that way to me is because first you've not gone back to answering Kate with regard to Sin, whether God created man with it or not. Two weeks have gone by until I've asked you how it went.

This time, I've asked you how does Original Sin impedes on Free Will. You've not answered that question yet. Am I off with my observation?

I need also to add that with Kate, you've told be that it's hard to talk to Catholics. In actually you could not answer her. Now with me, you seemed to change the topic from Original Sin in reference to Free Will to Free Will in general.

It appears to me that you tended to run away from a subject you do not know, or questions you do not have the answer to.

Am I also off there?

Ive been so busy with work and life haven't done much imgflip

I understand that you would be too busy to answer me, but during the time you've debated Kate, and two weeks after it, you've been on Imgflip submitting Memes, and asking for Upvotes. I don't know about you, but it often took time for me to produce a meme because I want to do it well for Upvotes, but more importantly the knowledge I want to share and make it attractive with meaning.

I get it, Imgflip is fun and it is a deserved activity on breaktime, and after work; but somethings are more important than others. By no means am I asking you to quit anything you love to do.

However, your usefulness to the Lord, is determined by how much time you spent in spiritual training and development.

I trust that you've been reading your Bible, from cover to cover continuousnly; but have you studied to master the Gospel message? And this is just the start; so when you have a wife and children, are you going to be able to "Disciple" them well (Deuteronomy 6:6:9)?

We are soldiers in His army; not conscripts.

2 Timothy 2:3-4 says.

"Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man thatwearreth endtangleh himself with the affaiors of this life, that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier".

The Lord loves you regardless of your failtures and short-comings, but will you be able to live with yourself in eternity?

The first and the biggest flaw in the 4 Spiritual Laws is that God is missing in the presentation.

You look into the yellow pamplet, so named, and the first law states "God has a wonderful plan in your life",. then it transitons to the 2nd law. basically we've broken God's laws.then the 3rd, Jesus Christ, and the 4th, give your life to Jesus

the reason why God must be included in the gospel message is becuase HE is the reason why men are going to hell, and why Men are saved. For a person to truly understand and appreciate the Gospel is to know God himself (John 17:3 & Luke 7:47).

An unbeliever, hearing the message, will acknowledge his/her being a sinner but have no idea why, how serious sin is, and why eternal damnation is just. As a consequence, Jesus would likely be looked upon as a "Get out of Hell, Free!" card, not knowing how gracious God is and hoow great of a price He had paid for their salvation.

Such "Believers" have false assurances simply because they acknowledged what they've read, and because they' prayed the "Sinner's Prayer". In actuality, intellectual acknowledgement, confessions/declarations (James 2:19 & Deuteronomy 6:4), and saying prayers (Matthew 7:21), does not save them.

GOD
Why is sin so terrible to Him, and why Damnation is so just, is because God is good (Psalms 136:1). He is not just good, because He doe good things, but because He is good by NATURE. That is why He can never lie, can never act wickedly, because He would be acting agianst His nature which unchanging and eternal (Malachi 3:6).

And because He is good, He is also Just and Holy, and Rightoues, so with respect to sin, He... must... punish...(Exodus 34:6-7). Consequentially, with sinners He separated Himself from them (Isaiha 59;1-2), He does not hear their prayers (Habakkuk 1:13) cannot allow them into His presence (Psalms 5:4-5). Instead, He sends them to Hell for an eternity, because sin is eternally evil to Him, thus requiring an eternal sentence.

I'll talk about sin, later on the week.

Hi Pierre I saw your meme imgflip.com/i/38qg95 and the dialogue that when on.

I know your meaning. I would love to have at least one meme on the front page; but as I was counting score, I find myself almost obsessesed with Upvotes. So I regularly Upvote a meme, and make a comment on it, knowing that I'll gain 5 Upvotes every time.

But Kate have made an excellent point:

imgflip.com/i/38xi7n?nerp=1567205824#com3547099

I'm not saying that you'll react this way, but for me, if one of my Memes do make it to the front page, I'll find myself wanting more and more accomplishments. I've also have had an encounter with someone so obsessed with Upvotes that, s/he had expected me to Upvute his/herr comments as s/he did mine.

S/he first have asked me to do it (which I've accidentally overlooked). Then, in frustration, basically told me "Look, I've been giving you Upvotes so you should also give me also . After all, aren't we supposed to follow the Golden Rule"?

At the time, we were discussing our faith, so when s/he had siad that to me, I had felt that s/he was just fellowshipping with me, just to get Upvotes. I've also felt that s/he was cheating for to my understanding at the time, Upvotes has to be earned; and my understanding at the time was that the goal of memers is to reach the front page, or later, get into the Top 10 or even to reach the highest point.

While my understanding was refined later on, I stiill felt that that person is utterly obsessed with Upvotes to where s/he begging for upvote to me personally; even to use my faith to his/her advantage. The person has yet to apologize but perhaps s/he too embarrassed to do so,

Maybe and kate is a she

Kate was not the obsessed person I was talking about

Were you thinking that my whole story about being coersed, was about Kate?

Yes

Concerning the coerser, I think I can see how you may have made that assumption.

Yeah

Also, were you thinking that my use of "s/he" was "he" instead of a shortened version of "she or he"?

Yes

As for "he" vs "s/he"; FYI, I've used the latter as an aid to disguise the person in question. I withheld his/her name, as well as his/her gender for that purpose.

Ah

Hello, Pierre; how are you?

Ah, would you like to talk about it?

Not much to say except life has been great work is great, my boss trust me,

Lol, that meme fooled me; I'm glad life going well for you. :)

Sorry i fooled you

No, it's OK.

Certainly, Brother.

Thanks

You're welcome.

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