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I have always said that! I doubt they would want a wimpy woman being their leader, let alone stand for abortion.

Right.Evangelicals vote conservative.

Evangelical Kirchentag. Google it. The evangelucal church supports quite a few liberal positions, at least here in Germany.

In fact the majority of Christians/Catholics vote liberal.

in 2008 51% of Catholics voted 4 bho

You mean in America or Germany?

In America, should have specified that, sorry.

Ah ok.

I’d expect only Catholics to be left-wing because they worship a left-wing pope, and the parts of the doctrine such as those involving charity are inherently communist.

While there are some /denominations/ that lean more towards conservative, they generally have smaller "flocks". As you can see, the main christian and catholic religions, as well as other denominations, favor liberal. And as you may also note, the overall majority of religious people in America vote blue.

Because unlike the Muslim religion, catholicism and christianity have for the most part been dragged out of the dark ages.

"unlike the Muslim religion, catholicism and christianity have for the most part been dragged out of the dark ages."

Thats not entirely fair. There havr been Numerus reforms such as the Cairo Conventions on Islam I think it was called, back in th 80s or something, its the latest that comes to mind.

Catholicism IS the religion of the dark age that's followed by left-wing Europeans who are too close-minded to evolve into the protestant faiths. Even though Islam, just like Catholicism, didn't undergo as much of a reformation, at least it retained most of its original morals, if I'm not mistaken.

Unfortunately, these people are Catholic in name only especially if they are for abortion rights. Too many politicians claim to be Catholic yet go against everything she stands for.

Actually, it's the other way around. As a former Catholic (now protestant), I used to have the same misconception, but in reality, Catholicism is an inherently socialist (if not communist) faith because it was invented by socialist Roman emperor Constantine (by watering down most of the Christian morals to get Romans to convert), it was used as a tool for controlling the masses (during feudalist Europe), and a key part of Catholicism's morals involves volunteering & charity, which are both pointless from a capitalist's perspective because it's far more logical to give jobs to the poor folks so they can earn money for themselves, plus, it rewards the ones who are willing to work the hardest.

I don't even like to consider Catholicism a Christian faith because it involves worshipping a pope, which violates the First Commandment, and Jesus Himself was an anarcho-capitalist who hated the Roman authorities controlling the Jews. I know what you might be thinking, "No, the pope is just a religious leader who helps guide us to God", but the idea that the pope is infallible pretty much constitutes as worship.

"Socialist Roman emperor"

Nothing inspires faith in your argument like saying a guy who lived almost 2000 years before the invention of Socialism is Socialist. Social Justice or Social policies are not Socialism. There is a big diffrence and I suggest you google it.

Then what evidence do you have that Rome was not socialist? Also, I know that there is a big difference between socialism and social policies. Socialism simply refers to an economic system like our current one whose market is half-free and half-controlled.

"Then what evidence do you have that Rome was not socialist"

Let me turn that around and ask you, what evidence do you have that it was?

"Socialism simply refers to an economic system like our current one whose market is half-free and half-controlled."

Slightly wrong, it refers to an economy that is state controlled and planned. But yeah

I already provided my evidence that Rome was socialist. Now, it’s your turn!

"I already provided my evidence that Rome was socialist."

Where

Okay, maybe I actually didn’t provide my evidence because I’ve debated with folks so many other times on ImgFlip. My evidence is that the Roman government provided corporate subsidies and food for the poor.

You didn't finish your sentence. The dinner of what?!

No, be serious!

What can possibly be more dangerous about premarital sex? Also, I think I accidentally sourced the wrong article. I probably copied the link before realizing that it was against premarital sex, and when I read my next source that was in favor of premarital sex, I forgot to copy its link. But I remember reading from an article somewhere that Adam & Eve had premarital sex, and the profits/apostles didn't get married to their partners.

But since the pope is infallible, and he’s okay with abortion & queer rights (there’s nothing left-wing about pre-marital sex), by Catholicism’s logic, the former two are now okay.

https://www.prestonsprinkle.com/blog/2016/9/14/does-the-bible-really-prohibit-sex-outside-of-marriage

WAIT, I was wrong about abortion. I may have confused Pope Francis with Bill Gates. Pope Francis said that abortion is like "hiring a hitman to resolve a problem", but I don't think he actually believes this because he wants everyone to vaccinate, and vaccines always contain fetal tissue. But I know that he's okay with queer rights. The Catholic church being against premarital sex is just a rule that exists so that the priests can have the right to control our sex lives.

No, the article said that premarital sex is okay. Think about it. Why would God give us the desire to fornicate if he doesn’t want us to do so? It can’t possibly be a Satanic temptation, as nonhuman animals always swing to different partners. Humans might actually be the only species that doesn’t like to fornicate. Why? Because society has ingrained in us certain sexual morals. Plus, the idea that sex is only for reproduction is pretty f**ked-up, and that’s one of the reasons why people get married. Even wild animals have non-reproductive sex.

I wanna know what it is for Rastas, because even though they're mostly black, everything about their morals screams right-wing, so that would be very interesting.

Liberal, as in “classical liberalism, or modern leftistism?

This is why I hate using the words "liberal" and "conservative" whenever talking politics -- because they both have very broad definitions. "Liberal" means "open-minded", but the only thing the left is open-minded to is control, and one can easily argue that the right is open-minded about having a freer market. It's also confusing with libertarians.