Decisions, Decisions ...

People who don't have va**nas cant govern women but they can become one??????

it is a delusion. They aren't a woman any more than a schizo is Jesus

But what if Jesus was a schizo?

These days he certainly would be.

Exactly.
I've seen the Second Coming on the Subway.

Many times.

Truth is, mental illness just a fuzzy gray line.
What society deems to far from the norm is a mental illness. Homosexuality is pretty accepted these days a generation or two ago it was a mental problem. Now transgenderism is going from a mental illness to not.

Back in the day, I'm not sure if hearing God talking to you was normal. I think more than one person said they were the son of God, Jesus just preached something good and people believed him.

Christianity is born from the ideals of equality, redemption, and revenge. It was from the slaves of Egypt who wanted to say that this life sucks but that their masters will go to hell for being bad to them. It is also for an easy path, just to believe and your sins will be forgiven.

I don't know whether I love those Christian ideals of washing away sin and that we are all equal and loved in God's eye, or see them as something weak and a way for the weak to guilt the strong into treating them better and a way for the weak to create an illusion where they are not weak.

I am torn on Christianity.

The biological and psychological sciences are as clear cut as, well, scientifically possible on what is female or male and the individual's identifying, relating, and proccessing with such.

science.
Transgenderism is in the DSM as gender dysphoria.

gen·der dys·pho·ri·a
[ˈjendər disˈfôrēə]

NOUN
medicine
the condition of feeling one's emotional and psychological identity as male or female to be opposite to one's biological sex.

"Claybourne

Octavia on gender reassignment surgery
" This is especially true if they begin the process early enough."
That disturbed me."

Yeah, "early enough" to make adult decisions is when people are adults, not kids still wishing when they grow up they'll be Cheshire Cat.

Feeling that one exists in the wrong body is - by that person's own perspective and determination - an exceedingly negative experience, one that can only be rectified by the most drastic of measures, and never completely so, leaving them perpetually feeling incomplete.

"Octavia_Melody

Not true. There are people who go through the gender transition process to such a degree that they feel satisfied and happy with their new body. This is especially true if they begin the process early enough."

The very need to alter one's body so drastically is rooted in disatisfaction.

The knowlege that such alterations are merely superficial and essentially barely past cosmetic and nowhere near fully functional biologically can hardly be fully satisfying, especially for someone investing so much in these changes.

I owe you a reply on the similar topic from the other day still.
I'm super tired and have yet to get to some from today.

dissatisfation*

Octavia on gender reassignment surgery
" This is especially true if they begin the process early enough."
That disturbed me.

Seeking to alter the sexual identity of one's body is no casual act, a lot of anguish has lead them to it.

But I can see how many would feel happier after such procedures.

LOL!

It's a pretty conservative way of thinking. Not wanting to let the MACHINE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT make laws about how the individual wants to live. How hard is that?

Depends on whether or not one is logical enough to comprehend that an unborn human should also have human rights.

An argument against Gay Marriage use to be...

"What next? Will they want to marry X?"

So when I see someone like you saying "unborn human" I have to think, when will we give rights for those who have yet to exist? When will we be doing daily checks to make sure men and women are committing genocide from masturbation and ovulation.

Finding reasons to jail human beings and make more is a means to an end to feed the government machine. Someone who is logical enough should be able to comprehend that makes you more liberal than conservative.

Did someone drop you on your head frequently as an infant?

Oh no? When do they get rights then? When did you get yours? It is highly illogical. All you've proven with this reply is that you can't comprehend facts or science.

In Libertarianism the only role of the government is to protect you from rape, murder, and theft. Killing a fetus is murder

What about your theft of your right to choose whether or not to be a human incubator when you're raped?

It depends when it is a life.
Making you carry a raped fetus versus taking a life isnt an easy decision.

You do realize every baby born also takes a life to raise it. Some have the means and the ability to raise more than others. That doesn’t mean we should deny someone the right to be happy just because their children prevent them from living above their means.

It is the right to pursue happiness.
You are the one that decided to do it without protection. You were not forced too.
It happens too much and it is sad because teen pregnancies can ruin lives, but taking a life simply can't be justified like that.
You cannot kill your child because you are short on cash and can't feed him/her.
The core difference here is that I think that choices lead to consequences and you cannot get out of them by taking a life.

Preventing pregnancy isn't murder. Neither is abortion. Not really. Not until after a certain point. There is no happiness to be pursued if you take the choice away to prevent pregnancies from continuing past a certain development. Most chose to have the baby. Taking away that choice from others, especially those with certain circumstances should be up to the individual not everyone.

isnt that certain point before the baby can move, has a beating heart, can feel pain.

I agree, but libertarianism has nothing to do with one’s stance on abortion. A left-wing anarchist would argue that in anarcho-communism, the community would fund abortion, while a right-wing libertarian (like myself) would argue that in anarcho-capitalism, abortion would be too expensive.

Anarcho-capitalism has no govt protection on murder.
And why would you want anarcho capitalism if something like abortion is too expensive.

Libertarians could see it as a govt overreach or just the government protecting against the taking of a life.

Yeah, to be specific, that’s a minarcho-capitalist stance. Although in a perfect world, nobody would be getting abortions, government does way more harm than good, and society can always ostracize anyone who does immoral things.

if it was just society with no rules to abide by, wouldn't minorities be very oppressed and it would be a rule of the powerful

But do any of the legally male people make the law? This honestly is just stupid