125 million dead.maybe more

wow, finally got approved.

Did it not before?

not this one but many have not been approved in politics.

Yea... politics is strict...

I have a Purgeboy would like to disagree with you

exactly

Who?

Hitler wanted everybody to have guns, except Jews. That was as far as he went on gun control.

and how did that work out for the jews?

Realistically speaking, what could the 200,000 (Elderly, Women and Children included) do against the Million strong well organised, well Armed, better trained German Military? I mean they could've fought, but it would have been futile. Now don't get me wrong I am not for a complete weapons Ban but for more of a limited one(No Snipers or Heavy Caliber)

Hitler didn't kill 200k, he killed 7 million ... even if it was 200k, you are saying, just let them kill you?
who is stronger, Hulk Hogan or a little old lady with a gun?

" they could've fought, but it would have been futile" vs dying anyway?

"Elderly, Women and Children " fought the Superior US forces in Vietnam..

"Hitler didn't kill 200k, he killed 7 million"

Yes, but at the time only 200k Jews lived in Germany. Don't tell me that you thought all 7 Million dead hews lived in Germany.

" are saying, just let them kill you?"

No, but I am saying that owning guns wouldn't have changed their fates.

""Elderly, Women and Children " fought the Superior US forces in Vietnam"

But this isn't Vietnam, as a matter if fact Nazi Germany couldn't be further away. Both in a Geographical and Metaphorical sense.

When Hitler took over a country he imposed the same laws there, no guns for jews, Poland, many dead..
Hitler actually banned more than just Jews from owning guns too

"But this isn't Vietnam, as a matter if fact Nazi Germany couldn't be further away. Both in a Geographical and Metaphorical sense."

I know it isn't Vietnam, but it is the very basic principal that the "weak" are not as weak when they are armed.

Again, if you are going to be rounded up and gassed and you know you are going to die, just give in without a fight?
If those 200k jews took out 100k German soldiers, isnt that a good thing? They are all going to die anyway..

"When Hitler took over a country he imposed the same laws there, no guns for jews, Poland, many dead.."

True that

"Hitler actually banned more than just Jews from owning guns too"

Yes. Jews and Political enemies and the such.

"the very basic principal that the "weak" are not as weak when they are armed"

I suppose

"if you are going to be rounded up and gassed and you know you are going to die"

Yeah, but many didn't know that they would have been gassed or otherwise killed.

"just give in without a fight?"

Of course not. Bloody Jews should give those bloody Nazis every Kick, bullet, bomb whatever that they've got! Thing is though their fates remain unchanged. With or without guns

"If those 200k jews took out 100k German soldiers"

Again thats assuming that every man women and child would be willing to kill or capable to do so. But I grant you this, if (however unrealistic it may seem) a German were to die for every two or three German Jews, it doesn't change the fact that they would've died anyway and that theirbdeaths were basically as pointless as if they would have died in a Concentration Camp

"They would have died anyway" again taking even a few nazis with them would be worth it, you fight tooth and nail. period. and that is exactly what will happen here if anyone tried the same thing..

Yes, but they still died a pointless death. The Guns they owned doing nothing but changing the place they die and how.

and the main reason they died a pointless death was nobody but Hitlers ppl had guns.

Even if every damn Jew in Germany were armed they would have still died. Them owning Guns changes nothing.

Even if every damn Jew in Germany were armed and had the willingness to fight, wich I assure you they were not and did not have (Even before they were disarmed) tgey would still have died, their guns changing NOTHING.

I fully support Gun ownership in principle. However I strongly belive in restrictions (Such as not selling Sniper rifles or Heavy Weaponry) and Gun Licenses. Your not allowed to drive a Car without a Licence, why should you be able to shoot a Gun without one?

That is my stance on the matter.

"Even if every damn Jew in Germany were armed they would have still died. Them owning Guns changes nothing." cept dead nazis but i understand a eu person view on fighting not your style till its too late

"cept dead nazis but i understand a eu person view on fighting not your style till its too late"

Look budy, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. I am not saying that the Jews shouldn't have done anything, but I am saying that the Argument that had the Jews had Guns then they wouldn't have died in KZs is utter Bullshit. Additionally I would like to add that I support a unified European Military to counter balance Russian Military aggregation without the US Military having to intervene. But I understand that Americans have a Shoot first ask questions later mentality.

"Watch that mouth, lad. I don't like what you are implying"
Lad,?
I am 50 and 275 lbs,(dr wants me 230 ish my bad) ex heavyweight wrestler, Noseguard in football and a Rugby prop (1 yr and poorly , too used to usa football and stop after tackled, nope.) nobody has called me lad in 35 years. but ok..

""I support a unified European Military"
I assumed you meant unified EU as in a country my bad.
but without a unified EU, you basically have nato but without the USA's $$$ and backing you might find that a bit pricey? I hope it happens too as do you . Watch what you wish for, you just might get it.... BTW, I think Putin would like that too. right?

"How exactly did you jump from a Unified European Military to 1945 and the American investments in Europe?"

Investments? More like charity in some cases? I think the US has spent more money on the EU countries safety and well being over the years in rebuilding, protection lives etc than anyone. but it was beneficial to both the US and EU countries vs a common enemy.
But again, You want us to butt out and Trump is alluding to the same thing(at least $$ wise)

But remember it was the European nations that started the 2 biggest wars EVER without any american involvement at the start and how many world wars have there been with our presence there?

"I do agree that Dictators Prefer to disarm their enemies. Still I was talking with you specifically about how not having guns didn't work out for the Jews"

I agree "not having guns didn't work out for the Jews"

"Anyways, this is a discussion about how Guns wouldn't have saved the Jews and not Europe"
actually - If you look at the original meme, way at the top, it has 3 evil dictators and the discussion and point was to say that dictators "Prefer disarmed ppl" Is any part of that statement not absolutely not 10000% true?

"actually - If you look at the original meme, way at the top, it has 3 evil dictators and the discussion and point was to say that dictators "Prefer disarmed ppl" Is any part of that statement not absolutely not 10000% true?"

I do agree that Dictators Prefer to disarm their enemies. Still I was talking with you specifically about how not having guns didn't work out for the Jews

Look Budy* go back to my original comment "How did that work out for the jews" The correct answer is "Bad" am I right???

and for the 5th time, i am not saying they would have lived, but they would have taken some Nazis along they way and is that good or bad??

"Americans have a Shoot first ask questions later mentality"
actually not in either World War, Korea or even Vietnam (french).

"I support a unified European Military to counter balance Russian Military aggregation without the US Military having to intervene"

Well put your money where your mouth is and tell your leaders to give back the Trillions of $$$ we have spent on EU since 1945, fair right?

and as far as a unified EU, the Brits dont want it,.its their choice voted on twice, right or wrong you must respect that, unless of course you dont believe in democracy ?

"and for the 5th time, i am not saying they would have lived, but they would have taken some Nazis along they way and is that good or bad??"

Yes it is good. Nevertheless the Argument that had Hitler not disarmed the Jews they wouldn't have died is bullshit. But seeing as you agree with me on this there is no point in continuing this line of dialog

"actually not in either World War, Korea or even Vietnam (french)."

Exactly. That statement is as true as "i understand a eu person view on fighting not your style till its too late"

"Well put your money where your mouth is and tell your leaders to give back the Trillions of $$$ we have spent on EU since 1945, fair right?"

How exactly did you jump from a Unified European Military to 1945 and the American investments in Europe?

"and as far as a unified EU"

I am talking about a unified European Military. The EU is hilariously ununified its not even funny

"the Brits dont want it"

Well only half of them didn't but that's beside the point. Again how exactly did you jump from a Unified European Military to Brexit?

"unless of course you dont believe in democracy ?"

Watch that mouth, lad. I don't like what you are implying.

Now I must admit that a Unified European Military is currently an unrealistic venture. I am however a supporter of a European family, call it a United States of Europe. Even though I know this to be at best decades away if not lifetimes, however I am European first, German Second. Like you are American first and -Insert State here-ian second. I would greatly wish to see all power be transferred to the European Parliament and us having a Prime President or a European President who actually has Presidential powers over Europe like the US President has power over America. Anyways, this is a discussion about how Guns wouldn't have saved the Jews and not Europe and my European beliefs. I think we are getting a bit derailed

No. Only his henchmen got to keep guns.

No, the libtard is right on this one issue. Hitler lowered the age restriction by two years and added a year to the license expiration.

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