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Change My Mind Meme | Atheists believe in God- they just don’t like him | image tagged in memes,change my mind | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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One Does Not Simply Meme | ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY DISRESPECT GOD | image tagged in memes,one does not simply | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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11 ups, 1m
AND YET, SO MANY DO | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Sadly:(
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1 up, 4w,
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he doesnt exist
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0 ups, 4w,
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I am cHrIStIAn
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1 up, 4w
I dOnT gIvE a F**k
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3 ups, 1m,
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Disrespect a fake being?
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1 up, 1m,
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I aM A cHriStIAn AnD YoU A LoWly AiTHeIsT CoME ANd DiSREsPeCt mY GOd
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2 ups, 1m,
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yep.
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1 up, 1m,
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Yep what?
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Just yep.
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1 up, 1m
K
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1 up, 3w,
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We DoNt GiVe A dAmN aBoUt YoUr GoD
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0 ups, 2w
yOu GoT a PrObLeM wItH tHaT bOi
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0 ups, 1m
We’re not all christian
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7 ups, 1m,
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7 ups, 1m,
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Or not-completely up to you:-)
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2 ups, 1m
He was never here.
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1 up, 3w
that point makes no sense
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5 ups, 1m,
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5 ups, 1m,
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1 up, 1m,
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Yeah yeah just obey the law until you don’t like the law.
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11 ups, 1m,
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5 ups, 1m,
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And the guys at work and the pub! LOL
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4 ups, 1m,
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Yes, I've seen comments on FB like that:)
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3 ups, 1m,
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LOL. It's so easy to hand out loads of cash in a meme
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Wish it was real-lol
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8 ups, 1m,
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All of human history is bad. The Bible is not ignoring the bad. If you want to know who God is, look to Jesus. He claimed to be God in flesh or God with a bod. I'm sure you read it, but you most likely don't understand it.
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You say you read it but Jesus did not do one vile thing to my knowledge. Do you have anything that can point to me Jesus' evil. You said the bible was vile and evil but the evil you read were things done in the history of the world. How can you make an accurate account of everything if you leave all the bad things done. Again, humans are flawed. Do you expect all in the bible to be perfect.
Only one in the bible is perfect, God.
How can something flawed set the expectations of good to the one who is perfect.
Again, Jesus is God in Flesh. Point to Jesus' flaws.
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5 ups, 1m,
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I don't want to get into a debate, but I'm just gonna let you know, that its been historically proven that Jesus did exist, take of that what you will. Thats it.
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4 ups, 1m,
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So no proof
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3 ups, 1m
So how can nothing be evil?
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1 up, 1m
Replying to your comment below. Not what I meant, so nevermind
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4 ups, 1m,
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No matter, I'm not here to win debates. I'd rather you get a better sense of who God really is. I think your views on him are skewed from what others have said and done, and I'm sorry for that. Instead check out this material, all videos.

https://subsplash.com/svcc/media/ms/+42tcn69
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1 up, 1m
Thank you for the link
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4 ups, 1m,
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Or as I like to call it, the "Just in case" excuse.

Believing because you don't want to go to hell is a pitifully weak reason to believe for 2 reasons:
1. Heaven and Hell weren't a part of Christianity up until 553. AD when they were added by Byzantine emperor Justinian and empress Theodora. Before that,Christianity taught reincarnation.
2. Suppose there's another religion which punishes disbelievers with eternal torment. Supposing the Christian God or the God of the made-up religion is real,the said God would have to be a true sadist to have people take chances and eternally torment them if they turn out unlucky (and they have NO basis for making the decision).

The idea is such an obvious mind-control device,which ultimately has people believing "just in case"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y201QzDdzbg
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Your first "reason" is factually incorrect.

Where did you get this false information? We have physical fragements of the New Testament (discussing heaven and hell) that we're dated hundreds of years before 533 AD.

You either are intentionally spreading lies or believed something without investigating further.
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There were a few links explaining everything in detail,but I can't find them. Guess they were removed(at Truth is always censored). Thankfully,this should do: https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/hidden-beliefs-covered-church-resurrection-and-reincarnation-early-christianity-006320

This one,too: http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=semkiw-reincarnation-past-lives-christianity

If that's not enough,search "The Dead Sea Scrolls Reincarnation".

Do some research before referring to something as factually incorrect, the one who's "fighting untruth". If you were really fighting untruth, your blade would be pointed at Christianity, as it is 100% lies, deception and plagiarism.
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Ugh... I'm kind of mad at myself for taking the time to read and watch what you posted.

First off, you made the false claim that heaven and hell were not an idea until 553 AD. I provided information that clearly blows that lie it of the water.

Nit behind able to admit your were wrong, you then shift the discussion to vague interpretations of reincarnation from the the dead sea scrolls (which were Old Testament).

I'm not going to waste my time debunking every stupid claim if you can't stay focused on the first one and admit you were wrong.

Even so, I'll leave you with some information about your second incorrect claim about reincarnation:

https://carm.org/did-early-jews-believe-in-reincarnation

https://www.christians.eu/reincarnation-bible/

Ultimately, I recommend actually studying the Bible with an open mind.
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You mentioned pre-553. physical fragments of the NT that prove my claims to be wrong. Sorry, but I've never heard of these. You'll have to show me which fragments you're talking about AND that they mention H&H.
On the other hand, I can show you a very simple but strong evidence for reincarnation in early Christianity: drawings. Let me explain. There are many Christian drawings from the 1st half of the 1st millennium (most of the featuring Jesus and his Apostoles, John the Baptists and other saints). However, there are no drawings of H&H from that period. The oldest ones are from medieval times (beginning of 2nd millennium, to be exact). And H&H is not exactly some minor,forgettable part of Christianity. You would think there would be depictions from thee early years. OF course if you think or know that there are H&H drawings from the mentioned period, feel free to show them to me and I'll eat my words.

Another evidence is that Christianity itself makes much more sense with Reincarnation than it does with H&H. For example,let's take John 9:2-3:"and His disciples asked Him, 'Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?' Jesus answered, 'Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened so that the works of God would be displayed in him' ". With H&H, these works of God make no sense. Why would he want to take away the sight of an innocent baby? God would have to be a real asshole to do that. But with reincarnation, these works of God actually make sense, because the baby might've blinded someone in their previous lifetime, and as a divine punishment, the baby has to live it's next life being blind.

Now, I still have to show anything about the 553. being the time when reincarnation was removed from Christianity. I forgot to mention that what exactly happened in 553. is the Second Council of Constantinople. The first decree from the Anathemas against Origen from the council follows: “If anyone asserts the fabulous pre-existence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema." Or in other words, the belief in the existence of the soul before birth and in reincarnation(monstrous restoration) was declared heresy. And why would he do that if everyone believed in H&H? And not to mention that this was done against the will of Pope Vigilius, the pope at the time.

I've reached the comment limit, so I'll continue in another reply.
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1 up, 4w
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I think you'll be interested in the following link. I'm interested in your thoughts on it.

https://www.christians.eu/ancient-manuscripts-new-testament/

At that link you'll see a list of what fragments that are dated before 500 AD. You'll see many sections of NT listed as well as a full copy of the NT. There are also links to images.
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2 ups, 1m,
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And what if you’re wrong and I am right. Do you really want to take that chance?
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What if the real test is that God wants to save people who can think themselves out of a paper bag while being brave enough to face down threats of a poor afterlife? Since there is no empirical case to be made about what the afterlife comprises your guess, anybody's guess is as good as any other. Maybe your insurance bet will land you in Hell. Then what?
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*facepalm*

First of all, you go with your "just in case" excuse again, meaning you didn't understand anything I've written.

Second of all, there is no chance to be taken. Christianity is a gigantic fraud, on ALL levels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNik8niSrrY
And another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_um69RqBpSw and believe me,there are many,MANY more.

Such a colossal fraud requires violence, brainwashing and fear-mongering for anyone to believe in it, and that is how it became the world's greatest religion in the first place. Violence to reach the position(When Christianity spread through Europe, Africa, America and the rest of the world, it was not through peaceful means), and brainwashing and fear-mongering to stay in that position.

Now answer me, honestly: If Christianity taught reincarnation, if the idea of Heaven and Hell didn't exist and if God wasn't omnipresent and omnipotent, would you still believe in him? If not, then you believe in God only because you're afraid of God(thus proving my point). If you'd still believe in God,I'd like to hear why.
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1 up, 1m
First of all “without faith it is impossible to please God” Hebrews 11:16 so I had to take that initial step of faith and believe what the Bible says - “Believe on the Lord and you shall be saved” Acts 16:31. Once I did that I received more faith, began studying my Bible, praying, going to church which caused a development in a relationship between me and God. And yes, a certain amount of fear is what brought me to God. I didn’t want to go to hell and heaven sounds so much better so the choice was obvious. But God chose me. Maybe you’re not predestined (Romans 8:29), but the only way to know if you are is to ask Him for forgiveness and find out. Once I did that a whole new life of peace in my heart and hope opened up for me. Is my life perfect? NO WAY! But God is helping me to develop character through adversity. Just think if I had everything I wanted-what an awful, selfish, good for nothing thing I would be! I have learned to thank God even for my trials, knowing that He is developing my character. I grew up never meeting my dad and was angry and bitter all the time. My childhood wasn’t easy and then I married an extremely abusive man who was very cruel to me-so I became bitter. Then I met God and my heart has changed, I have love for others, I have joy, and I know where I’m going when I die. And I can’t answer your last question because that’s not who God is. That’s like asking me if I would’ve known that my ex-husband was going to beat me, choke me, shoot me, would I still marry him? Obviously not.
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Good point. But reality trumps all. The reality is there is no evidence that conscious thought is any more than a physical manifestation of the brain.
But if you're correct and God exists I would hope that since most claim God is omnipotent, omniscient and all loving that I would be forgiven for being me and not believing such a thing can exist since it's an oxymoron.
In other words God is omnipotent, omniscient, all-loving. Pick any two.
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0 ups, 1m,
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You can be forgiven. You only have to ask. It is so simple:)
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0 ups, 1m,
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But if I don't ask or if I don't believe there is any supreme being to ask I'll be tortured for eternity? Do I have that right?
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0 ups, 1m,
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yes, you do :)
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So the all-loving deity who has the power to do anything and knew from my conception that I would defy his wishes is OK with condemning me to eternal damnation? Not to mention the millions of kids who never even heard the good word and the people who think critically using their "God given" minds and people you personally know and love who will not submit to the gospel. All of us together will burn eternal while you and the chosen are blissfully indulging your every wish in heaven?
It takes guts to love such a vain, cruel and spiteful entity.
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1 up, 1m,
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He is all loving but can’t tolerate sin so unless you’ve asked forgiveness you will go to hell but God is also fair and just so if there are kids out there who truly don’t know right from wrong, God takes that into account.
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Unable to tolerate sin. So God isn't omnipotent.
But how is it you know the mind of God? Where is it written that God makes special accommodations for certain children. In fact if we are all his children wouldn't a fair and just God choose to save us all? He loves us so much he doesn't want to see us burn, right?
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0 ups, 1m,
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When this thread and the other started, I thought that you really were interested in learning more-my mistake. I leave it at that:)
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We did go pretty far astray from the original point. If you look at the Dawkins quote I provided it answers your assertion that atheists believe in god. As a Christian I'm pretty sure you reject the existence of Thor and Odin as deities. You accept the holy trinity as your god. An atheist disbelieves the holy trinity with the same ease you don't believe in the pantheon of Egyptian, Norse, Greek, Roman gods. And if a person is truly an atheist they don't believe in any of those substitutions as well. So have I changed your mind about atheists?
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Well the Bible says that everyone has the knowledge of God existing (Romans 1:20) but there’s also a scripture (Romans 1:28) that God will eventually give some over to a reprobate mind -those He regards as evil or wicked. And THOSE I do think may not believe-but those people are very far gone and I cannot believe that someone as civil as you are here with me would not be at that point:)
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1 up, 4w
classic femanist
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4 ups, 1m,
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That is actually correct.
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2 ups, 1m
:-)
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3 ups, 1m,
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4 ups, 1m,
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I think you have a good point there. Some people have so much pain in their lives they refuse to believe a God exists and if He does He doesn't care about them.
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3 ups, 1m
Feel free to join my stream The_Think_Tank I love discussions like this!
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1 up, 1m,
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Yes I have often thought the very same thing-it’s sad, really.
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2 ups, 1m,
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Sad that we don't believe in something which is impossible? The logic behind religion is that people are scared to die, so they have to create something to let them sleep at night. Atheists don't believe in it because the logic behind it is ridiculous. It's like believing in fairies in your garden. You don't understand atheists because you don't want to. You're so blinded by the desire to "CONVERT CONVERT CONVERT" that you can't see how we think.
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0 ups, 1m,
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Exactly! Is it a crime to know that God is scientifically impossible?
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Apparently it is.
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0 ups, 4w
he does not exist i see religion as an excuse to say we are alive because there is no way we can ever see how we were first created because we did not(and still dont) ave the technology to go back and find this out
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0 ups, 1m,
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Tell you what? You obey your imaginary being first then ask others 2
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3 ups, 1m
Never said you have to obey God. He van speak for Himself. And it takes more imagination to day He doesn't exist.
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2 ups, 1m,
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Ok, then who am i if i dont believe in god, i thought that is what atheists were, but if not, who believe ls there isnt a god in the world?
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3 ups, 1m
:-)
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2 ups, 1m,
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I happen to believe in science, which is also called Atheism, and god makes no sense scientifically, so no I don't believe in god you religious discriminist
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0 ups, 4w,
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Many scientists are Christians-so.....
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0 ups, 4w
not all of them
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0 ups, 3w
I never said I was a scientist, I said I believed in it
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3 ups, 1m
:3
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3 ups, 1m,
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I'm an atheist and it's not like I'm hating people for their beliefs. I'm just confused because the bible is scientifically incorrect.
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1 up, 1m,
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Christians are so judgemental...
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2 ups, 4w,
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hey i have a person that i know who is christian and hes one of those people who are serious about their religion so i like to argue with him that god just doesnt make any sense because he say all these people are sinning but he made them that way meaning god makes sins basicaly going against what their own "god" says
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God made mankind perfect and gave them free will to make their/our own decisions. He doesn’t cause people to sin-that’s up to them. He could’ve not given us free will but then seeking God and wanting a relationship with Him wouldn’t be our choice—it would be His. God will never force Himself on anyone:)
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1 up, 4w
ok you completely ignored what i said but ok
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also i guess that you guys haven't considered that this religion exist because people were forced into believing it back in the day by "Christians"invading and killing people who dont believe in their "god" and they say that its for god and all that and also the sin forgiving system is bull because your saying that if someone tortured and killed thousands of people, **ped and abused hundreds of woman(over eexageration of course) and abused their own children to the breaking point all you have to do is say forgive me and its like it never happened like excuse me but this person has f**ked thousands of lives and your saying he gets off with a simple sorry? I am seriously thinking thats how you guys get away with doing evil things
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I didn’t think that I ignored your question?? But in response to your next comment-those Christians who you said killed people who didn’t believe in their god - those were the Crusades and they were killing the Muslims because even back then they recognized how evil they were. And as far as people getting off with a “simple sorry” - yes that is s how simple it is as long as it is truly meant AND people who have done really horrible things will still have to suffer the consequences like prison and even death. You have to remember that the people who do those really horrendous things are probably mentally ill and most likely suffered through a really horrible childhood. We who didn’t should just be thankful that ours was better.
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1 up, 4w,
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yeah but you dont know if the person decides to do it just because he wants to
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0 ups, 4w,
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You’re right-we don’t know another person’s heart, but God does:)
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1 up, 3w,
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and god created that heart therefore its his fault if they did something wrong
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0 ups, 3w,
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God did not make us robots and instead gave us “free will” to make our own decision to follow or not follow Him. He doesn’t want robots (have you ever seen Stepford Wives?).
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yes so he gave us the "free will" to sin so he is basically "letting us sin" and im still finding that he makes no sense im. Religion was made so that we have a say in why we exist i mean if you realy think about it we cant possibly find out how we were made because we cant go back in "time" and wanna know who invented time? we did, human not god, humans created time to keep track of the day because we were smart enough to advance. you can see this in some animals such as dolphins, they are very smart creatures who can be taught to do different things and they can advance just like we did and its not because of god its because they have enough brains to do this and also if you really think about it in your little christian minds is that you people have cause many religions to become myths and if any of those religions were alive today then they would be having arguements just like this and since those turned out to be mythology then christianity is also some sort of mythology. Also you know cancer patients and people with diseases and all that? well according to you"god made them" and if "god made them" then he made them with cancer or whatever disease they have. So basically when you say your god is so good remember that he was the one who put these bad things into this world.
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1 up, 1m
Yes, some are. But so are a lot of non-Christians and you can't let that stop you from doing what you need to do. I don't follow any particular Christian but I do follow a very perfect Man named Jesus.
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1 up, 4w,
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I am an atheist and the only god I believe in is the meme lord
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0 ups, 4w
you must be a legend i believe in minecraft cause minecraft is something that's real(for example: a ceremony is playing an old minecraft soundtrack really loudly and t-posing)
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0 ups, 4w
Here is the link to the ceremonial music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8yP5ipKDvQ
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IF there is a superior being, either they are so disconnected that they don't care about us OR they are positively insane.

Best line i ever heard...."A god interfering with humanity is like you ..going for an 8 mile hike, to a particular anthill, and asking the first ant what they had for lunch..the ant can comprehend it, and you wasted your time"
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1 up, 4w,
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Eventually, I'll die. IF there is a supreme being, I have some really hardhitting questions. If there IS no supreme being, I finally get a nap.

Seems like a win/win,if you ask me.
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1 up, 4w
Once you’re dead, you won’t have a chance to ask those questions. Ask them now. If you are truly seeking answers from Him, He will answer- -not in an audible voice but by directing you to another person who will help with the answer. BTW, there’s no napping in hell.
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1 up, 1m,
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Ugh, I hate when people say this. When atheists say they don't believe in a god, you know what you should do. ACCEPT WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THEIR OWN BELIEFS. And gee, I wonder why we wouldn't if he did exist, Leviticus 20:13 tells that being gay is a thing that you can be put to death for yet multiple studies have shown the homosexuality is genetic which means by your "God made everything" logic he put something in humans that they can't change about themselves and then made it bad. It makes no sense.
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“Accept what they say about their own beliefs” - it would be nice if you and other atheists took your own advice and accepted what Christians believe, but you don’t. Instead you make it your goal to tear down every religious icon and deny me and millions like me the right to view a nativity scene at Christmas or a cross erected on top of a hill, etc. Just sayin.
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1 up, 4w,
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Okay, when I say "Accept what they say about their own beliefs" I mean that if an Athiest tells you that they're an atheist, you should store in your head as a fact "Billy is an Atheist" not say "No Billy, you believe in God, you just don't like him" That statement is impossible to prove or disprove and it's just naïve to say that.
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0 ups, 4w
Read Romans 1:20. I’ll just leave it at that and I appreciate your civility with answering me. I hope that you have a good day:)
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1 up, 1m
Not sure what you’re saying here?????
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0 ups, 3w
I don't believe he exists, i don't like him as a concept either :P.
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0 ups, 4w,
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Listen sir i believe in mincraft because that shit acually exists (not irl but its a real game) god does not exist so dont you go saying that i do not believe in him ok im an athiest myself and i do not believe what your saying so
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0 ups, 4w,
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Sorry that you feel that way. BTW, I’m a “her” not a sir :)
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1 up, 4w,
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sorry ma'am
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0 ups, 4w
Lol - no problem:)
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