Greatest Factor

I don't need the concern of the persistent vegetative state crowd anyway.

Wow,humans like you have become so unnatural,they think that valuing and cherishing Mother Nature over bullshit,man-made borders and politics(something only monsters such as humans are foul enough to create) is considered retarded. Disgusting...

"Mother nature" even in your idiocy you anthropomorphise nature indcating the supremacy of mankind and vindicating my point. LMAO@U

Calling someone "mother" is not anthropomorphisation, and I have no idea where did you get the idea it is. Nature is mother to all living things equally, not just us, humans. And her laws are infinite geniunity which humanity willl never, EVER, umderstand.

What supremacy of mankind? The only thing in which humans are superior to other species is destroying and defiling everything around them, including themselves. They are a cancer on this planet, and like all forms of cancer, if untreated, they will die only when it's host (Mother Nature) dies as well. Nutshell: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU

And if you think humans are superior to any other species, you have shown your ingorance and stupidity to be near-infinite. Here's the truth: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKFFS3IndPY

I'll need a few citations of my """"" idiocy""""". You are the one who proved to be a total idiot. Valuing a stupid wall and politics over Mother Nature. When every river gets polluted, when every tree gets chopped down, when every species of animals and plants go extinct, and when the turn for humans to die out comes, we'll see just how precious your walls, flags, constitutions, guns, money, cities, mayors, senators, governors, presidents, states, governments, priests, bishops, popes, churches, borders, jobs, nations, FF restaurants, WMDs, stadiums and shopping malls really are.

Where do I get the idea that "mother" is anthropomorphizing?!?

Seriously?

Motherhood is exclusively a reflective human concept. Assigning personhood to a physics based collection ofnatural laws as in using the term "Mother Nature" is doubly so.

And if you are too stupid to realize that not only are humans superior to every known form of life, but by a mind boggling degree, than you are an idiot.

As far as your strawman rebuttal, I don't value politics unilaterally over "mother nature" (oops, there SHEis again), I value humans and in particular my family and loved ones over mostly mindless animals, and proudly do so. To not do so would be callous idiocy. I want a wall to protect my loved ones and fellow citizens. It's bad enough to have to accept the reality of the possibility of they or I suffering harm because of the actions of my fellow citizens, but to allow the possibility of harm coming from thosethat have no right to be here is entirely inexcisable.
Don't hate me because I love my family, hate me because I thoroughly exposed the idiocy of your position and exposed you as being intellectually bankrupt.

Motherhood is exclusively a human concept,huh? So if a cat gives birth to another cat, the first-mentioned cat is not the other one's mother, because the whole idea is something what humans made up. Right. Totally makes sense.

And again, just because I add the word "Mother" does not mean I personificate or anthropomorphize Nature. When I think of Nature, I don't think of a green-haired, blue/brown skinned woman decorated with trees and waterfalls. Instead, I think of Nature as it is, with all her inhabitants living in wilderness and freedom, as they should.

*sigh* Answer me,how are humans superior to anything?
Humans have little to no body hair, so they have to rip other animals' fur, pelt and hide off their flesh to keep themselves warm during Winter.
Humans (bare-handed) have no means whatsoever to defend themselves from predatory animals (neither armor like armadillos, nor spines like hedgehogs or porcupines), and are too slow to outrun them (especially wolves and big cats).
The milk the females provide to their children is not enough for them, so they take the milk from other animals, such as cows, goats and sheep.
Human claws(nails) and teeth are not nearly enough to rend the flesh of their prey's bones, so they use knives or anything sharp enough to do the job.
And even when they get their hands on some fresh meat, they have a hard time eating it while it's raw, so they cook it in order to digest it more easily.

And about the human brain and intelligence, that is not superiority, but potential. A potential that goes two ways, the positive and negative one. Some people go the positive way, a lot of them don't. So,at the only field where humans can be better than other animals, they fail. Wanna know how? Here's how:
Animals do not believe a thousands-old graybeard will send them in a flaming pit to burn forever if they don't go to a church and believe in the said graybeard.
Animals have never created a group of animals of the same species, willingly allow them to enslave them and tell them what to do, call the said group "government", pledge allegiance to it, praise their servants and keepers of the totalitarian regime(policemen and soldiers) as "heroes" and think that they group of slaves is more important and any other group of slaves(nationalism and patriotism).
Animals don't send their off-springs to a place(school) where they learn useless bullshit and conformism, respect for authority, obedience, and other forms of brainwashing.
End of part I

No, get it right, I said "Motherhood is exclusively a reflective human concept" Meaning that it is a concept only used by humans to reflect on female birth and care givers. Also meaning that only humans reflect on or are capable of reflecting on it as a concept. Performing "mothering" does not possess an animal with the capacity of understanding it.

moth·er
/ˈməT͟Hər/
noun
1.
a woman in relation to her child or children.
"she returned to Bristol to nurse her aging mother"
synonyms: female parent, materfamilias, matriarch; More
verb
1.
bring up (a child) with care and affection.
"she didn't know how to mother my brother and he was very sensitive"
2.
DATED
give birth to.
"she's mothered two foals that have gone on to be impressive dressage competitors"

Notice, the nonhuman usage is "DATED" , another way of saying no longer applicable.

Now, to your other bit of comedy, your vapid inablity to recognize the vast superiority of man and his insurmountable lead in sheer brain power.

Not only can a human plan with near infinite superiority to any other organism, he can design and create tools of such vast concepts complexity and power, they can have near instant planetary scale effects, such as Tsar Bomba. No other anmal comes close on a Kardashevian scale, not even close.

As far as your other eroneous objections, belief in a thousand year old graybeard god, has never been disproven, so categorical denial is nearly ridiculous as unsubstantiated belief.

And for one so tree hugging happy, it is astonishing how ignorant you are of such things as queens and workers, or even the way ants treat aphids as livestock.

Slavey is as much part of the animal kingdom as mans, and in no case a valid argument to refute man's vast superiority to all animals.

Thanks for tuning in, Octavia. Been a little lonely down there.

I'm done with Psychosis_Master here, so it's off to another thread. Been leaving them hanging for a few weeks now. Yeesh.

That's retarded. That's like saying, "don't use the brain you were born with that absolutely gives you total dominion over those dumb animals"
See, the superiority IS making tools and technology. The lion can bring any guns his species made, just so it's fair.
And because God hasn't been disproven is EXACTLY why he might exist. That is a logical follow thru, not a logical fallacy.
So you can follow along, use another word so you don't soil your drawers:
Because mosquitoes with another set of wings on their legs haven't been disproven, they might exist.

Exactly.

BTW, those mosquitos ACTUALLY exist. I saw them in an Army research lab.

Tools and technology, as well as materials required to make them, cannot be avaliable to you anytime and anywhere. What will you do when you have nothing, and no way to gain anything? How far can your "superior brain" get you? Since the human body is near-powerless compared to various predators from crocodiles to lions, I'd say you'd be done for.

Also, I've already shown you numerous ways animals are smarter than humans, so drop the notion of humans being any smarter than animals.

I've already mentioned that the existence of something cannot be disproven. I'll say it again: give me a piece of irrefutable, undoubtable and concrete evidence that werewolves, vampires, zombies and dragons don't exist, and then we can talk about god. So god being disproven is NOT why he may exist.

You are a loon.

"Also, I've already shown you numerous ways animals are smarter than humans, so drop the notion of humans being any smarter than animals."

No, I take that back. You are mentally retarded. Maybe YOU aren't smarter than any members of the animal kingdom, including amoeba, but the rest of us humans, including some who are brain damaged (like anyone who would associate with you) are all much smarter than the brightest animal. You never even came close to proving any animal is smarter than any human who isn't Terri Schiavo, yet alone, "numerous ways"

"... drop the notion of humans being any smarter than animals."

I'm right on that chief, just as soon as one of them builds, (or buys from his fellow animals) a computer and tells me to stop paying attention to reality.

Seriously, you are a joke.

Heheheheheheheh, whatever happened to you being done replying to me :)

I did show how they are smarter in my blue replies with "Animals don't" remarks. Humans may do some impressive feats, such as building computers, flying airplanes etc etc, but all that is completely trivial compared to the utter stupidity, foolishness and unconsciousness they demonstrate and live every day.

The idea of humans being above other lifeforms that idiotic pieces of shit like you have is the reason why humans have wrought such incredible amounts of destruction around them, and will ultimately be led to self-extinction.

“I'm tired of this back-slappin' "isn't humanity neat" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes.” - Bill Hicks

"I look at it this way... For centuries now, man has done everything he can to destroy, defile, and interfere with nature: clear-cutting forests, strip-mining mountains, poisoning the atmosphere, over-fishing the oceans, polluting the rivers and lakes, destroying wetlands and aquifers... so when nature strikes back, and smacks him on the head and kicks him in the nuts, I enjoy that. I have absolutely no sympathy for human beings whatsoever. None. And no matter what kind of problem humans are facing, whether it's natural or man-made, I always hope it gets worse." - George Carlin

All what you've said about the word 'Mother' may be true for English, but in my native language (Serbian/Српски), 'Мајка' still means both human and non-human female birth-giver. And since there's no translation of 'Мајка Природа' to English other than 'Mother Nature', I can only use that term.

Again, the human brain power is not superiority. It's not even power, but potential for the power. I will not deny the great deeds done by humans in both art, science and technology. But the destructive/negative part by far outweights the constructive/positive part. Humans have created a gigantic machine which enslaves them to work a job they hate 8-10 hours a day in order to make enough worthless pieces of paper and metal called money, which they can exchange for food, water and other neccesities so they can continue doing that same job they hate. Absolute lunacy (and another thing that animals don't do that I forgot to mention). And few of them figure this out because they're given mindless entertainment such as sports, pop music, modern video-games, melodrama TV shows, private lives of celebrities, scandals, elections etc etc. And even if they do figure it out, the machine (which, for the record, is called corporatismconsumerism) is so powerful that no matter how hard you try, you can never truly escape it. Every single one of us depends on money up to some degree, despite it's collective-hallucionary value. It's impossible to get by without modern pieces of technology such as computers, cars and smartphones when they didn't even exist a few decades ago. If you build a house in a faraway, rular region without the government's permission, they can and will demolish that house. Every day, humans are expanding the vile, putrid monstrocity they call "civilization" by destroying nature around them, and building malls, walls, stadiums, FF restaurants, military bases and other disgusting objects on top where trees once were. If it's this what you call "insurmountable lead in sheer brain power", then there's something seriously f**ked up about you and your worldview.

Of course the belief in the filthy, disgusting Abrahamic god has never disproven, necause you can't prove that something does not exist! Give me a proof that werevolves, vampires, zombies and dragons don't exist, and then we can talk about god. Knowing that god is not real is common sense in the same way it's common sense to know there is no Santa Claus.
End of Part I

Dude, I'm done replying to you, you are obviously an insane Luddite. Denying intelligence, ... absolutely f-ing bonkers.

Been nice talking to ya, hahahahahahahahahaha :)

I'm not opposed to technology in it's entirety. Only to monstrocities like this: https://youtu.be/e9dZQelULDk as well as braindead f**ks like you who think there's nothing wrong with it.

Part II
The only reason why there are no adults who believe in Santa Claus is because they weren't taught as children that they'll burn and be tortured forever and ever if they even dare to question the existence of Santa.
And one little note: when I say god, I mean the Abrahamic, Judeo-Christian god. Some people (mainly Buddhists, Deists, Psychonauts and New Agers) think of god not as a being, but as a mystic energy/intelligence which is allpresent and One and the Same with the Universe. Carlin called it "The Big Electron" and said that it doesn't judge or punish, but that it just is. In that context, there is a god (though godliness is a much more fitting term). But in the context of a vengeful, angry, tyrannical, dictatorial monster Judeo-Christians and Muslims believe in, there is no god, I know for a fact there is no god, and I am indescribably glad and relieved there is no god.

Bee queens do not enslave their workers. A queen has never told her colony that they'll be punished, imprisoned, or even killed if they don't obey her commands. And she does not even give any orders, commands or even makes any decisions, other than choosing which cells will she lay her eggs in. Bees are slaves, though, to none other than humans, thanks to the wonders of industrial farming, where bees work so hard to make honey, only to have it all taken away for them by force by greedy monsters called humans.

Slavery is surely existent among some ant species. You're right about that. But believe it or not, some ant slaves rebel against their masters. They stop feeding and serving their masters until they eventually die. Sometimes they even make an all-out revolt against their masters.
Humans, on the other hand, rebel against one form of slavery in order to establish another form of slavery.

"Slavey is as much part of the animal kingdom as mans, and in no case a valid argument to refute man's vast superiority to all animals."
How funny for that remark to claim the superiority of humans while simultaneously claiming that animals are on the same level of slavery that humans are on, implying that none is any better than the other.

Part II
Animals don't think themselves as superior to any other animal. A wolf will not eat an animal (be it a sheep,fox or even a human) because the wolf think it's "superior" to the said animal. A wolf will eat an animal because the wolf would starve otherwise. The is no arrogance, selfishness or delusions between him and his prey.
Animals don't live under any disgusting, money-worshiping system like capitalism or corporatism, nor any dictatorial economic system like socialism or communism (which all lead to tyranny, economical or political).
Animals (while some are territorial (which is not a bad thing)) don't believe in borders, and that going from one side of the border to the other without a passport is punishable by "law".
Animals have nothing to do with sick, foul industrial farming (others that often being victims, of course)
The list goes on, and on, and on...

"Strawman"? Sorry, but I didn't over-exaggerate or mispresent anything here. I showed everything the way it is. You said in the original comment: "Worry about wildlife over the safety of Americans=retarded". The orange reply and the last paragraph in the brown reply were my response to that statement, with, again, no mispresentations.

And what makes you think that your family and humans are more important than animals? What have you done to think like that? Or do you think:"I'm human, I'm smart, animals are dumb, that means my life matters more". Animals are far smarter than most humans think they are. There have been numerous studies which demonstrate the intelligence of animals, and sometimes, even outsmarting humans. Crows, for example, managed to figure out that poisonous frogs can be eaten by turning them on their back and eating their stomach, thus avoiding the poison (which is on the frog's back). And that is just one of MANY examples of the vast animal intelligence. Not ALL animals are that intelligent, of course, but a lot of them are. And trying to prove that human lives are more worth than animal ones by saying they are mostly mindless is unjust to say the least, because even though there's some truth to the statement, it still doesn't mean humans are superior or more important to them. To quote the wise Alan Watts: " Man has to realize that he is an integral part of Nature... that he is as much a natural form as a seagull, or a wave, or a mountain. And if he doesn't recognize that, he uses his technical powers to destroy his environment... to foul his own nest."
End of part II

Part III
Don't get the wrong idea. I don't intend to prove that animals are superior to humans, because they're not. Animals have their flaws, too. All I'm doing is destroying your philanthropic, ego-driven bullshit and showing you that humans are in no way more important or superior to any other living being. The idea of any species or race or anything similar being superior to any other is stupid and childish to begin with. Every species is better in some things than others, and worse in other things. I'll post the link from the brown comment again, because obviously you haven't watched it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKFFS3IndPY But in the small chance scenario that you were enough open-minded to actually watch it and still don't get the picture, then this shall do the trick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0guEKMVYmZ8

Whenever people like you say: "I want a wall to protect my loved ones", all I hear is crying to the state: "Daddy! Daddy! Help me! Those evil Mexicans are out to get me! Build the wall so they can't get in! Quarantine us! I'm scared!" And I always laugh long and hard, for the scare tactics and excuse for the intense authoritarianism and totalitarianism are so obvious, that only obedient, easily-brainwashable, slave-thinking imbeciles known as patriots would not notice them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lgojy_0bmQ

And please enlighten me as to who the f**k decides who has and hasn't a right to be anywhere? The idea is such a horrendous load of shit that I cannot fathom as to what the f**k can possibly be happening in your head. And even if it were somehow true, your intense hypocrisy is exposed by simply mentioning the Native American genocide. Who has a right to be in America now?

Hate? Who mentioned hate? Such nonsense of an emotion is for lower-brain, unenlightened humans only. All I did was tell the truth the way it is. You are not the first one to confuse that with hatred, and will probably not be the last one, either. Please stop projecting your own psychological flaws unto me, will ya?