Maybe what we need is to go in a totally different direction.

The only thing I ever seen them agree with is to take our rights away.

Yep. That and they both agree that government this year should always be bigger than government last year.

Yea you gotta feed the leviathan . Caint have it missing no meals.

And that they should always take the bribes from the lobbyists

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Man, you're quickly becoming my favorite imgflipper!

Well, thank you for your very kind words!

Which party do you support?

Libertarian?
Green?
Reform?
Constitution?
Modern Whig?

Well, I do not really have a party affiliation. I am a very conservative person. In my younger years, I was a registered Republican. But after carefully watching the establishment in that party, with their presidential nominations of people like Dole, McCain, Mitt Romney, etc., I got fed up with them. Add in the RINOs like Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and others, and I simply resigned from the party and became un-enrolled.

Whenever the Republicans nominate a RINO to be a presidential candidate, I'll always vote Libertarian.

I'm probably not as right-wing as you are, but, well, I have... odd political beliefs.

I strongly dislike both the Democrats and Republicans, and have since I decided to actually research their positions instead of just voting for a Democratic or Republican candidate because the media told me to.

I'm definitely a Liberterian, but I feel like I'm more a left-leaning than right-leaning one.

I believe Socialism will never work, but it might have a few points, just the wrong way of dealing with those points.

America definitely is dealing with drug abuse the wrong way. We should be going after the dealers and sponsoring recovery programs for the addicts instead of going after people just for possessing drugs.

The right to bear arms is a huge deal to me, and I feel neither party is handling it well at all (which isn't unusual for Democrats and Republicans). I mean, suddenly legalizing everything without any lessons about gun safety or firearm responsibility isn't a good idea, but restricting peoples' gun rights is just as bad. We should focus on firearm safety and responsibility training, maybe even teach it in schools (once we reform the education system).

Gerrymandering is a huge issue that isn't often brought up. There are no words to describe how mad it makes me that our nation has allowed hyper-partisan political groups to draw voting districts instead of paying non-partisan groups to draw voting districts in a sane and logical manner that isn't based on what would be best for their political party. I know that the Europeans are far from perfect, but they definitely have a point when it comes to the voting districts thing.

We need education reform. Our school system is horrible.

We need prison reform. Our prison system is horrible.

We need news reform. Our news channels are ad-overloaded and hyper-partisan.

We need to abolish the Electoral College. No, I'm not just saying this because Trump got elected: the electoral college may have been a good thing when the average voter was insular and uneducated through no fault of his own (though, even then, it was a horribly undemocratic system), but it is horribly outdated in the age of information, because nowadays, ignorance is a choice and where you live doesn't automatically determine who you'll vote for.

Thanks very much for your viewpoints. I agree with much of what you believe. But I do not believe that the Electoral College ought to be abolished. My reasoning is that there are many rural, sparsely populated areas in the country who hold very different views than those of the most populated cities like New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago, for example.

If we were to abolish the Electoral College, then the candidates for president would only focus on those very populated areas in an effort to get as many of those votes as possible. There would never be a reason for them to try to appeal to those who live in rural areas. And we would end up with presidents who only hold the values of big cities.

I live in New Hampshire. There are 3 localities in New Hampshire that open their polling places at midnight of the start of the presidential primary election; Dixville, Hart's Location and Millsfield (where I live). All presidential candidates campaign in those 3 localities, and I have had presidential candidates sitting in my living room. The only reason why any of them bother with New Hampshire is because if the Electoral College votes that New Hampshire has. If it wasn't for the Electoral College, New Hampshire, and its values would be ignored in favor of big city values.

That is a very interesting viewpoint, and I definitely get where you're coming from. However, I think the rural population of the united states is still much larger than a lot of people seem to think it is, and there are also a surprisingly large amount of conservative city-dwellers and liberals who live in rural areas.

Also, if you're interested in an even more controversial subject, you might find that there's a reason I said my viewpoints were... odd:

I believe strongly in marriage equality. This may not seem that radical, but, in my case, it also extends to incestuous couples. So long as it is between consenting adults, I don't see anything really wrong with it. I mean, I wouldn't personally marry my sister, but I'm not gay either, and that doesn't mean I'll deny gay people the right to marry. The only real arguments against it are "ew" (which, quite honestly, doesn't seem like that much of an argument) and "But inbreeding is bad for children", which is most definitely true, but, in this age, contraceptives are cheap and readily available, not to mention the fact that some incestuous couples are homosexual or have one/both members that are sterile, and those that want children can just adopt kids, since there are plenty of kids that are up for adoption.

All of my views, however, boil down to this: in this culture, we have forgotten that it is WE THE PEOPLE that choose our government and choose our government's policies, and it is our responsibility to change our government if we do not like it. That is why I am a libertarian.

Amen, MAGA!