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Trumpception | How do you know when you win an argument with a liberal? When you respectfully argue their points with valid counterpoints until they call you  racist, homophobic, or use psychological terms to describe you despite not being a PhD. | image tagged in memes,inception | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Why do liberals hate God, Jesus, America and Christians?
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I see liberal hate of God, Jesus & Christians every week. I know you see it too, You just scroll past the articles & Memes & pretend you didn't see it or you'll say it's a conservative pretending to be a liberal.
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I agree, But again the ones screaming F God, F Jesus Christianity suc#s drown out the ones who do believe.
I've asked multiple liberals to try a simple 2 word test. Go to any liberal page & type Merry Christmas. None ever do it. It doesn't matter if it's June or December, The backlash is always the same.
Look what it took for You & I to be civil to each other. The majority of Liberals won't even listen.
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Okay so first off, God and Jesus are a part of Christianity so you just have to say Christianity in general. Which isn't inherently untrue. There has been tons of backlash against Christian Conservatives by the media and on social media just because of how the Catholic church behaved in Europe centuries ago. You will see them praise Muslims openly despite the fact that Muslim women have MUCH fewer rights than women in America. To say they hate America? Well that's also self-evidently true considering as at least half the liberals out there today are openly socialist and support having MORE government control. Look up what happened in Venezuela recently to understand why socialism doesn't work no matter what country you are.

But I digress, it does work both ways, but at the same time the difference is that there is much more evidence to support that the majority of liberals hate America than there is evidence of the majority of Conservatives being racist, bigots, etc. Liberals just throw those words out there to shut up conservatives when they are losing an argument. Conservatives don't do that until AFTER the argument is finished and both sides had fair say.
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The best way to win an argument is to appeal to a majority with words of their kin
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Hop out of your hole and smell the roses. The #metoo movement is plenty proof enough since it is full of people that used to think liberally and actually woke up and realized that Liberals actually DON'T have tolerance. Also, your go-to comment about how Muslim women don't have near the amount of rights as women in America is to bring up that America *used* to not allow women to vote? You do the same thing every other liberal does which is, "well yeah but *insert group* has had it bad here too." Thank God the founding fathers set up a document that wasn't written for the times, but rather written to stand up to the test of time otherwise progress wouldn't be made. Meanwhile women in Saudi Arabia (or some other middle eastern country I can't remember the name of) JUST got the right to drive a f**king car. Comparing that to the fact that women in this country now have the same rights as men and have had it for over 100 years is ridiculous.

Also, what are Christians doing today exactly? Because all I hear is that anytime someone disagrees with border policy, people say, "oh so I guess THIS is how Christians act." Please. You don't have a country if you don't have borders and every country has a right to have a border policy so let's shut that shit down and stop pretending it's racist when Obama was saying the same thing when he was in office. The only difference is that our current administration is actually being active on the policy that was already in place, they just dusted it off and started implementing it.

Also, only the extremist people (found on both sides) actually believe that all Muslims are terrorist. Everyone in their right mind knows that not every one of them is a terrorist. Which is something everyone can agree on.

Did you also know that there were a very large majority of women during the women's suffrage movement that didn't actually want the right to vote? They thought that having the right to vote meant that they would also have to sign up for selective service too and many of them were perfectly happy with the way things were going. I'm not saying that women shouldn't have been given the right to vote, I'm just giving some trivia out there that during that period of time, the women in this country weren't as homogenized as people have been lead to believe.
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Correction, I didn't mean the #metoo, I meant the #walkaway movement.
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I'll say what you said above. Maybe some individual Christians believe that way and try to act that way, but not as a whole. Of course think about your argument for a second. You are complaining about Christians wanting to restrict abortion. I mean honestly, it's to be expected that Christians don't want to murder innocent babies. The issue isn't about people wanting to tell women what to do with their bodies, they just don't think it's morally right to kill unborn children. Ya know, kinda how Liberals berated Trump for his border policy and how they took the moral high ground about the poor children being separated from their parents at the border. The shear Hypocrisy behind it is astounding.

So no. Christians as a whole don't think it should be okay to deny someone a job just because of their sexuality. In fact, did you know that when applying for a job or interviewing for a job you don't even have to list your sexuality at all? Why does sexuality HAVE to be announced so openly everywhere we go? Why not keep your sexuality private to employers since it really doens't matter or have anything to do with your job? If an interviewer asks you what your sexuality is, I'm pretty sure that's an illegal interview question and you don't have to answer it.

Spreading hatred, fear, and paranoia? You mean like how Liberals are constantly doing by swearing up and down that Trump has Russian ties? Or how he was going to put people in internment camps? Or how he is Hitler? Or how he was going to make policy against minorities and LGBT community (which the ONLY thing of note he did was not allow transgender in the military and I am pretty sure it was a fine tuned thing which stopped a transgender person from being able to join the military, then undergo a transition whilst getting it covered by the military and also being on paid leave. Not to mention that it's been correlated that the hormone imbalances that occur due to transitioning cause depression and anxiety which isn't a good combination in a military force. It was more to protect them and their fellow brothers in arms than to hurt them or their social status)?

It's been 2 1/2 years and he hasn't gotten us blown up, he hasn't started a war, which is saying a LOT because we were pretty close with North Korea, and the economy is doing good with generationally low unemployment rates, and lower black and Hispanic unemployment.
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I agree that in the case of rape, that it is terrible and is one of the grey areas of this type of debate. However, as many point out, that cases of rape account for only a very small percentage of women who are getting abortions which means that sure, in the case of rape why shouldn't a woman want an abortion? I get that completely it was unplanned and certainly unwanted. But the rest of the cases? Abortion is legal because a supreme court decision but based off of what we know about biology, is that those babies do become living organisms at some point fairly early in the pregnancy. When you make abortion not only legal, but this thing that should be accepted and maybe even encouraged by society, then you trivialize motherhood and fatherhood and what it means to be a parent. That's not even some religious way of looking at it, that's just what is happening. If two people have sex unprotected, and then have a baby on the way, it just dissolves them of the responsibility of having sex and even what giving yourself to someone like that means in the first place. They have things like Plan B where you take it within the first 3 days and it terminates the egg, and while that does little to stop trivializing parenthood, it at least terminates the pregnancy before a heartbeat is formed and I support that before I'd support having an abortion.

But if Abortion is not murder, then how come we live in a country where if someone kills a pregnant woman, he/she can be charged with a double homicide, but abortion is totally okay? The only difference in what is happening is that again, a supreme court deemed it unconstitutional to not allow.

To your LGBT stuff, I would like to know what other policies he's passed that intentionally target them and what they do. I still stand by the notion that he passed the military one to protect them and their fellow brothers in arms. I don't think he was saying they can't perform well, I just think he was trying to help both groups out but who knows these days?
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It's not just for their own good it's for everyone's own good. Some soldiers may not give two shits they are fighting alongside a man that used to be a woman. Others however, may not share the same sentiment.

It's sort of the debate with should a man who transforms himself into a woman be allowed to compete in women's sports. It doesn't matter that you are getting sex change surgery and getting increases in hormones, but how is that fair when biologically they are still stronger than women?

How does that apply here? Well take a woman that transforms herself into a man but gets put on front line duty in whatever branch they are in. Biologically they aren't going to be as strong as the men (though the boost in testosterone helps tremendously) that can be a matter of life or death.

I just happen to think it would protect them as well as others by doing that. Whether they suffer physical or emotional bullying by their peers, or they can't perform effectively in combat. HOWEVER. Big however here. I understand there are tons of opportunities in the military other than fighting in combat so maybe having a policy to allow them to be a part of the armed forces but without being involved in combat would be the best option? This is another one of those grey areas in debates that we find. It's one thing to be an advocate for equality, but sometimes equality doesn't always mean better. I'm sure right now, many women in the military enjoy the comfort of knowing the majority of them aren't deployed on front lines.
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Fair points, but the difference between a person of color, and anyone who is transgender, is that a transgender person still has to manage hormone imbalances and mood swings (caused directly from those imbalances). Yes, I understand that mood swings happen to everyone, but to be considered fit for active duty, I'm pretty sure you have to pass a psych evaluation.

Other than that the only thing I disagree with is your statement about not all men are stronger than women. While using yourself as an example isn't terrible, I feel I should clarify what I meant by biologically stronger.

There are women right now stronger than me as well. I'm sure any woman in the MMA could squat way more than I ever could. The point I'm making is that men have the biological means and potential to always be stronger than women if they put in the work. So take an active man and an active woman, and make them do the same exact workouts and exercises for a month. The man will come out stronger in each workout than the woman would, though both of them would see an improvement to their overall.

It's not to say women can't be strong, that's totally not the argument I'm trying to make. With that said, when it comes to women on the front lines, I'm not trying to say they can't do it. I'm saying many women may simply not want to. Yeah, there are women out there that want to, but just because they want do, does that mean they should speak for all women that serve in the military? Because once you sign up, you belong to Uncle Sam until you serve your contract. So if they implement something like that, that means women who don't even want to do front line duty, could get sent to front line and they could be halfway through their service.

Again, this all goes with those grey areas of debates and it's one of those things where nobody knows what the right answer is, they just know what's wrong or doesn't feel right.

TL:DR what should we do about it? Well I certainly don't know. But maybe someone out there is smart enough to figure out a happy medium for everyone.
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The 19th Amendment (the Equal Suffrage Amendment). When the Amendment was submitted to the states, 26 of the 36 states that ratified it had Republican legislatures. Of the nine states that voted against ratification, eight were Democratic.” Many of these Democrat-controlled states refused to ratify the amendment until the 1970s.
Your claim that conservative Christians fought against women's right to vote is false.
You can blame Christians all you want, But it was Liberal Democrats who fought against the Women's movement. Are there peaceful Muslims? Yes, But they are silenced by the extremists who control the Muslim population. Do Liberals hate America? The ones screaming the loudest hate it, The liberals who want to get along are drowned out.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Not all Liberals behave as though they are brain dead but the few who do are the ones that end up getting their voices heard because they shout the loudest or throw the most shit everywhere.
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The parties never switched sides, That's a lie spun by Democrats to cover up the racism & oppression Democrats have inflicted on Blacks & women since 1828.
Democrats have not changed, Their identity politics prove they still categorize people into different groups and label them.
Many groups opposed the women's suffrage movement, But groups don't write legislation, Congress does. Democrats opposed giving women equal right from 1878-1970. Democrats still openly oppress women today., If they aren't Democrats.
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No the parties didn't switch sides, That's another lie from Democrats, You can believe that lie. But it's still a lie.
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How do you know when you win an argument with a liberal? When you respectfully argue their points with valid counterpoints until they call you racist, homophobic, or use psychological terms to describe you despite not being a PhD.