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Bernie Sanders is Insane | SPENDS THE ENTIRE YEAR RAILING AGAINST A TAX CUT THAT COST GOVERNMENT 1 TRILLION DOLLARS; WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KEEPS PUSHING A HEALTHCARE PLAN THAT WOULD TRIPLE TAXES AND COST GOVERNMENT 32 TRILLION DOLLARS | image tagged in bernie sanders,taxes,healthcare,government | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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0 ups, 6y,
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You really should understand the math you criticize.
1 up, 6y,
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I understand quite well. The first math takes money from the government and gives it back to Americans. The second math takes money away from Americans and gives it back to the government, in astronomically higher amounts, which is then redistributed in the form of government run health insurance. Americans will never allow our country to be starved and ruined like some socialist backwater.
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0 ups, 6y,
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You mean like Scandinavia? Yes those poor DEMOCRAT socialist countries with their higher taxes and better standards of living and better education systems that it pays for. We never want to be like them. Please try and educate yourself before posting again. You keep confusing corrupt dictatorships that call themselves socialist with Democrat socialism. HUGE difference.
1 up, 6y,
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Indeed, Scandinavian countries are capitalist democracies with socialist healthcare. People there had jobs which paid them well, unlike here, before socialist medicine and education vouchers were agreed upon by their population. The combination of high wages and low unemployment allowed taxes to be increased without hurting the average workers wallet, unlike here. They also have significantly smaller and less diverse populations. Using a country with 5-10 million people as a model for one with 325 million is ridiculous.
Over the past 20 years these countries have also had to scale back the amount of socialist programs they offer. Influxes of immigrants who they've tried to add to this system become failed experiments - immigrants often end up with the lowest paying jobs and people who have low paying jobs can't afford the taxation - so they have now created a full fledged welfare-state out of immigrants and many of the lowest paid workers.
I grant you, that America might not end up quite like Venezuela, but socialized medicine will not work here. It would send people living paycheck to paycheck into poverty in exchange for government regulated healthcare. It would expand our already swollen welfare-state. It's also being misrepresented to voters rather unfairly. No 'democrat' socialist candidate is out there honestly telling people how much more they would be taxed in order to have socialized medicine. They sell it as 'Medicare for all'. People hear that and think, well Medicare is basically free. 'Medicare for all' is completely opposite of free if you have to pay three times as much in taxes. I can tell you from a personal standpoint, if you tripled my taxes... my federal deduction, I'd no longer to be able to afford to pay rent - and even worse, the monthly cost to me of tripling federal deductions would actually be more expensive than my current option for health insurance is.
I'm well educated on the facts, figures and evils of socialism & socialist medicine. I was one of 6 million Americans who paid the individual mandate penalty rather than be forced to buy insurance. Americans don't like tax increases and they also don't like being forced into anything. I think that you're the one who needs to do more research; instead of using tired old leftist talking points about Scandinavia - who, by the way - have pretty much rebuked Bernie Sanders claims because he's misrepresenting them to the world.
Misrepresentation seems to be rampant.
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1 up, 6y,
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Oh its that they are smaller than us? You really should understand models work. What the hold is Americans for whatever reason like being held hostage for money. Know why Ford is moving more and more production to Canada? Healthcare costs. You are supporting the very ones that want to take every dime you make and then charge you for it. Why? Because they convinced you that is what being a true American is about. Then Billionaires buy a new yacht and register it in the Caymans to avoid paying their taxes leaving the rest of us to pick up their slack.

Democrat socialism says its fine to be rich, you just have to pay your share of the bill. Our system is rigged to f**k you and me. We can do better.
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Don't Do Socialism | WHEN SOCIALISM ABDUCTS YOUR PARTY YOUR TAXES BECOME A HOSTAGE | image tagged in socialism,hostage,taxes | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Roll Safe Think About It Meme | YOU CAN'T PAY FOR HEALTH CARE FOR EVERYONE WITHOUT MORE TAXES | image tagged in memes,roll safe think about it | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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0 ups, 6y,
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Yes more taxes. More taxes spent wisely is not a bad thing. But if you have insurance through your company, you ask them how much it costs them a year. Our health insurance for profit is a lousy system and can break you if you become too costly to them.
1 up, 4y
Yeah, it's called Single Payer, this is where you get the money from that, and you'll pay less in taxes for a full service, than what you pay now in private expenses for a skimped ass service susceptible of even additional charges.

It's basic economics dude, it's called Monopsony, the Spanish government bargains with the hypothetical, American hip replacements manufacturer, they analyze the production costs, assuming the hip manufacturer isn't lying with their numbers, which will be shooting themselves in the foot because another company, more honest with their profit margins with the same product quality, would get the advantage in the deal, and believe me, selling in bulk to an entire country is one helluva deal, better than having to deal with so many different insurance companies, keeping track/paying so many different commercial agents, marketing execs, and various other hustlers...
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How can be paying a shit-tonn to an insurance company so they re-sell you a mediocre service, be better than paying half a shit-tonn to your very own government so it can guarantee you a human right? you're being socially progressive and fiscally conservative at the same time, this is as closest as you could ever get to keeping the cake and eating it.

"Know why Ford is moving more and more production to Canada? Healthcare costs"

Why do you ignore this bit from Boma's post? if you're a company you'll be paying less for your worker's healthcare in taxes, than you do now, with your employer's health insurance, which in most cases is mandatory anyway, and this is one of those few, rare thing that helps small and large business alike (again, you're eating the cake and keeping it, I know, that as an average American, you're accustomed to be held hostage by private interests in almost every single facet of your live, and that it's hard to believe that there can be something better, but see? that's exactly how Stockholm [pun totally intented] Syndrome works).

This is a nation's health we're talking about dude, not the latest Iphone!, besides, you'd be able to buy dozens of Iphones with what you'd be saving with Single Payer (and maybe even a trip to Spain).
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SPENDS THE ENTIRE YEAR RAILING AGAINST A TAX CUT THAT COST GOVERNMENT 1 TRILLION DOLLARS; WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KEEPS PUSHING A HEALTHCARE PLAN THAT WOULD TRIPLE TAXES AND COST GOVERNMENT 32 TRILLION DOLLARS