But That's None Of My Business

but who would protect the poor honest hard working politicians? if there is one?

That's where shootings happen...

I don't know how well metal detectors would help.

but it would alert officials before any deaths

but would it prevent the shooting? I honestly have no idea? I'm not a mad gunman.

True. But I know how to get inside a school undetected. That as if I am not caught on the school property that is. Like I ever wanted to break into a school.

IDK. But the point is, if we dont need more laws, why does this happen? not asking u.

Safety is never a solid promise. Deterants are the best that we can do.

I expected to see the detector beeping everytime everyone pass because of some steel ballpoint or metal button etc etc

People that used to be children.

They probably COULD but just weren't unhinged as they are today.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-08-29/news/mn-14591_1_armor-piercing-bullets

I'm saying kids were NOT like they are today. They were not prone to all these rampages. People in general are a lot crazier now.

I blame the media for putting it into kids minds.

Unthinkable acts of violence? Not if it's on every media outlet for a week straight. Shit, I'm desensitized, I'll admit it.

You're not wrong!

Blame the parents!Not the kids!

I blame the kids. I blame the parents. I blame the media. I blame virtue signaling morons like David Hogg. I blame A LOT of people. Kids are not free from the consequences of their actions. Personal responsibility is for everyone.

Why but who gave them the idea to kil? Beside kids dot kill unless provoked. Often by their parents.

The "idea to kill" can come from any influence. Books, movies, games, friends, one's own thoughts etc... It is not the idea but rather the desire. Kids can be "provoked" by their parents when they perceive unfair discipline or that they are not understood by their parents. The human brain is not fully developed until about the age of 25. Up until this point human beings are not fully capable of logic or reason. Which is why kids often make terrible decisions and regret it when they are older. This is science. You may be interested in looking it up just for the curiosity. I encourage you to do so.

Anyhoo, kids who find themselves being relentlessly bullied by their peers (as I was) may become hostile and violent or they may simply withdraw and become very antisocial (as I did). The reasons why young people choose to kill others are many. Mental illness, depression, bullying, anger, betrayal, and revenge are among the very many things would drive a kid to kill classmates, parents, random people in a random place etc...

The idea that the "blame" should rest upon any one single shoulder is to our detriment. A broader look at all factors and making the best choices for our kids and communicating with them is the first step for parents. Schools should reevaluate how they handle cases of serious bullying, the media should take note of how their glamorizing shootings affect everyone who is watching. I could go on and on. But I will leave it there.

I personally agree. But you can't solve everything with science. Can science solve the paranormal?

It seems to depend on the state. Laws vary between states. Which I can't imagine why anyone would allow absence of an accountability law, but then I am just a commoner. This page gives a decent break down of states and their varying laws. https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/child-consumer-safety/safe-storage/#:~:text=Eleven%20states%20have%20laws%20concerning,this%20requirement%20in%20certain%20situations.

Gun owners in states with laws in place usually are held accountable, again with varying consequences between said states. However law enforcement can also vary as a judge is the final say-so hen it comes to what penalty a violator will receive. You are right though. I have always been puzzled by lack of penalty for irresponsible gun owners.

What are you?! Someone from the government trying to fill my head with lies?!

I scrolled up and I see the whole thing. Are you on a mobile device or a pc? I am using a laptop, so it could be a different set up. However, on some occasions on social media I have seen posts or comments be removed, or certain posts be removed from circulation entirely. Not sure what's behind it always, but I am sure there is plenty they would like to keep people from talking about. Nothing is ever truly private online. Which is one reason I distrust the internet so deeply.

True that!

Looks like our conversation is back.

If I were going to place blame I would blame the adults who are supposed to be responsible for raising this generation. They have failed at helping teach the basic life skills we all need to cope with stress, disappointment etc... No child is allowed to feel sad, angry, bored, left out, failure etc.... They have been shielded and protected to absurdity. If a person is never allowed to experience the pains of life and helped learn to cope appropriately when they are older they will lost and unable to proceed normally. But how do you get the entire older generation who have failed so terribly to do anything differently?

Yah, and what is the government doing about the gun violence? Nothing!

First, the paranormal is not a problem to be solved, but rather a phenomenon which is to be understood. Second, while you can't "solve" everything with science, you can certainly use it to help gain an understanding and possibly come to a reasonable solution or cure to certain issues. In this case understanding is what is needed and through understanding a means of approaching said issue will be better obtained. Mental illness and varying issues common to the young brain are what we are up against. And the triggers for the states of mind that precede and foster a desire for a violent and deadly means to an end come from varying sources. It is the young mind which needs addressing. And I don't mean just the one contemplating violent and deadly acts, but the young population as a whole.

To clarify, why are the young people of this age so quick to end life? Between suicide, murder and killing there seems no end to this. But I assure you there is a reason behind it. What is affecting the mental state of this generation that did not affect previous generations? That is a good starting place.

If you really want someone to blame. Blame the government! They haven't done their job since this country was created!

What do you think the government CAN do? How do you expect the government to predict and foil any and all gun violence? How about stabbings, bombings, beatings, etc.... Do you think the government can actually come down here amongst the people and actually stop anyone from doing anything on a far and wide scale? Do you think a little prevention may serve this purpose better?

I don't know? Mady make sure weapons like guns don't get into kids hands?!

GAH! I'm just a house wife who used to meme to a shameful degree. Anyhoo, the facts are that some states have laws, others do not. Unless one runs afoul of a federal law then the feds will not be involved. If they run afoul of a state law then the ATF will be involved. And they will (hopefully) be prosecuted. At any rate I think you are on the right track. Sometimes the asking of a question is enough to set someone's brain in motion. Questions make people think. Something that technology seems to be forcing us out of as much as possible. Interesting isn't it? First we learn how to stop writing with text, then we learn to stop typing with speech to text, then we learn to forget how to read with text to speech. Next thing you know we will be as illiterate as the day we were born and therefore subject to believe what ever we are told and never what we have researched. Sad really. Anyhoo, never stop asking questions. That is what keeps people thinking.

Then why are we arguing with each other when we both know we can't trust the government?!

My apologies, I thought we were discussing rather than arguing. If you are looking for someone who has complete distrust of the government then you have found the one. However, while I do not trust the government, I do not feel they can always reach down and control what we do, nor do I want them to. Imagine if they had that kind of power. What would "they" be capable of? Less government is best in all situations.

Well the government has invested in technology to control people. They even resorted to black magic to control people.

That falls on the shoulders of the parents, if they own fire arms and the merchants. ANY gun owner who does not secure their fire arm is at fault if their fire arm is stolen and used maliciously by anyone. Laws vary by state, but I argue that these people should be jailed as the criminal would. Any business which allows a forbidden person to purchase a fire arm should also be held accountable similarly. Any item purchased through illegal means or channels are already illegal and well.... there goes that. Now how does the government force any individual to abide? Law are not followed by everyone. But still, for those who do abide the law would be sufficient. Penalties will deter others. The remaining few who may be so engulfed by their need for crime or desire for revenge will find a way around laws and often commit suicide to avoid penalty. The few who do not will then be glamorized and sensationalized by the media which will then reach more of those who definitely don't need to be given any ideas on how to exact their own revenge.

Now what? How do we reach those few who have an anger that they must relieve? This angry person needs something. Something that will prevent them from growing angry to the point of violence. But what? Medications do not address this and are actually often the cause as many trigger the patient to act out in these ways, especially if they abruptly stop their meds as many do. How can we address these people who are just teetering on this edge?

And yet these people ain't arrested for murder or armed assault.

I can neither confirm nor deny these assertions, but I would not be surprised if it were true. Just being honest.

How true.

Have you noticed that most of our conversation has vanished? As if the government do not want the world to know what they are up to.

I wish they gave us more thread. The reply button stops and we have to keep going back up to a previous remark to reply. Kind of goofs up the order of things.

indeed.

Actually the media is probably deliberately rousing ppl. But yes, you are right.

precisely!

Not entirely true. Just as not as known to happen much then.

I got my first gun before I could ride a bike