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I would tell you first that "the official conspiracy" is a myth, and every for every other follower of other conspiracy cult leaders, there are followers of Jones who are saying the same thing about them.
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Take 911 for example.
Do you believe that 19 Arab hijackers 'just happened' to hijack the same planes on the same day and fly them into the same buildings? If so, that is crazier than any theory I have ever heard.
Read the 911 Report and following official documents and they will say that those 19 men plus others got together with there leadership and conspired to come to America, live as students, learn to fly planes, then hijack those planes, and fly them into specific targets. That is all the 'official conspiracy' says.
Everyone is a conspiracy theorist unless you believe it all happened by chance. People like Alex Jones and his ilk give fodder to people who like to throw around the propagandized use of the term "conspiracy theorist" to shed doubt on anyone who questions the official narrative.
The 'official conspiracy' is the official narrative. Please explain to me how the 'official narrative' is a myth. I'm all ears. I love a good conspiracy.
The rest of your statement after "myth" makes no sense and is not worth responding to.
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You obviously haven't paid attention to history. Arab terrorists and other terrorists have hijacked planes for decades before 9/11 and have hijacked more than one plane at the same time. The 9/11 report IS NOT "the official conspiracy theory," and is not a myth. It's a fact, and real conspiracy theorist just call it that. Just because it didn't happen by chance, doesn't mean it's a conspiracy theory. The only conspiracy theorists are those who deny that 19 Arab hijackers carried out the attacks for Al-Qaeda.
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Bull. The BBC did an investigation after the event and realized most of the 19 were still alive. One of them even said, that's my picture, but I was never a hijacker. And don't get me started on Larry Silverstein confessing, or the dozens of holes in the Pentagon story. And lots and lots more.
Intelligent people have recognized your fallacy for what it is and ceased to dismiss the concept of conspiracy as axiomatically false.
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No, they didn't find any of them were alive. They found other Arab men with the same names or similar names to the hijackers. And Larry Silverstein didn't confess to anything. He brought up a conversation he had with a fire chief and agreed with him that Building 7 was a total loss. Also, there are no "holes in the Pentagon story." Just denial by gullible followers of the 9/11 twoof-cults about what happened.
Intelligent people recognize the fallacy of the claims made by the so-called "9/11 truth movement," that people who THINK they're more intelligent tend to ignore.
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There are a hundred holes. The MIBs moved in within half an hour seizing videos from adjacent hotels, gas stations, and similar places that would have captured the incoming object. As with every conspiracy, it was never returned and never disclosed. The one couple of frames off a Pentagon parking lot cam were chosen over a decade later because they didn't show the object, most likely a reaper or missile, and dolts would say, "Oh they released everything." The pre-collapse hole was so tiny there's no way a fuselage went through it, there were NO impact points where the titanium engines would have impacted the walls, the craft could NOT have impacted where it did because of what's called wing in ground effect, there was NO recognizable aircraft-wreckage except some comical thing with a non-aircraft American-type lines on it, the official flight trajectory had the craft fly a 270 degree spiral around the exterior of the building and then zoom in....on and on. Professional pilots have stated not even they could have hit the thing as directly as claimed - and you think a couple of incompetents who couldn't even land the craft could direct it that precisely?
Wings RIP ENTIRELY OFF OF PLANES at sea-level atmospheric densities at the speeds it was claimed these craft were flying.
And yes, Silverstein's claim was a confession of the demolition, he referred to pulling "it," the building, just as it happened. Far more intense flames had NEVE brought down a steel structure in history, for reason of temperature curves and rapid thermal dispersions you would not be expected to understand. But only idiots think you just toss in a couple sticks of dynamite and a building comes down as Silverstein authorized - you have to spend weeks rigging the charges on the columns.
I can't do more than make the observations, but I know my physics better than you. And someday this is going to come out.
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There are no "MIB's" doing anything. Law enforcement is REQUIRED to seize videos during crime scenes. And many of them WERE returned. The video of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon caught on the parking lot cam was shown almost immediately. The hole it made WAS NOT tiny, there was plenty of recognizable aircraft wreckage, none of the wreckage was "non-aircraft." Wings DO NOT "rip off" at any speed. And no the interview with Silverstein that you're talking about WAS NOT a "confession." It was a discussion with a chief from the FDNY over their inability to save the building, which in case you didn't know had a far more intense fire than what you've been told to think. The FDNY authorized pulling their people out. Silverstein authorized NOTHING!
If you know physics as well as you brag about, you'd know that the claims made by the so-called "9/11 truth" cults are bogus."And someday this is going to come out?" No, you're BS has been out for over 15 years, and those of us in the real world know better than to believe it!
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IT's because I know physics - and thermal dispersions - that I know the official story of the beams is a naked crock. No steel framed building in HISTORY EVER collapsed on account of fire - before or since. Some of them have been raging infernos too. Absent interference, it doesn't happen.
And practically not a thing you said else was true, ANY of that footage that had been returned would have been viral instantly. The Silverstein admission was in an interview with Charlie Rose, I originally dismissed it like you, and then realized the alternative reading was completely untenable bunk. And the parking lot footage was not released until 2009! Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean other people didn't too. That pretty much settles your grasp of any of this.
The rest of your inaccuracies aren't even worth bothering with, as you clearly credit whatever you are fed. You should at least pay attention to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 truth, and similar sources calling BS.
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Oh, you are so wrong about steel buildings collapsing from fire before and after 9/11.
You're wrong about the interview with Silverstein too:
"And the parking lot footage was not released until 2009!"
"Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean other people didn't too."
Actually, it's you people who weren't paying attention except to the twofer cults you mentioned below,
"You should at least pay attention to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 truth, and similar sources calling BS."
No, CR 01, because THEY are the ones with the BS!
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You are DELUSIONAL. The date of the footage is DIFFERENT from the date of the RELEASE. As it turns out, I was still closer, it was in fact 2006 - but that proves they sat on it for HALF A DECADE.
I'm not wrong about the buildings, and I'm not wrong about Lucky Larry too, I watched that interview episode so much I effectively have it memorized.
Someone that sloppy and ignorant - were you in diapers at the time or something? - is unfortunately not capable of grasping the concept of being lied to. You may consider yourself put out of the game.
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No, I'm NOT wrong about the date. I remember seeing it the very month of the attacks. If anything, the news media forgot about this and taking advantage of a slow news day decided to re-release this expose in 2006.
You ARE wrong about the buildings because buildings like the McCormick Place, Kader Toy Factory and others have collapsed from fire before 9/11, and the Plasco Building in Tehran collapsed from fire. You're STILL WRONG about Silverstein too, and Chief Daniel Nigro confirmed this.
I was in my 30's when 9/11 happened, CR 01. And because of this I also know that it's the so-called "9/11 truth" cults that are lying to people, so if you think I'm incapable of grasping the concept of being lied to, you're a bigger idiot than I thought.
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You did not address the fact that the 911 Commission Report is the official narrative and it does say the the 19 terrorist did CONSPIRE together with their Al-Qaeda leadership headed up by Osama bin Laden years before the attacks and they continued to CONSPIRE together building up to the attacks.
Instead what you are doing is making an equivocation fallacies:
'conspiracy = myth' AND 'conspiracy theorists' = 'someone propagating myths'
So with that logic every time someone is charged in court with "conspiracy" to manufacture drugs, conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit terrorism, or some other "conspiracy" those things are "myths" and that person should only be charged with manufacturing drugs or whatever crime they committed because they obviously didn't conspire with anyone else to commit those crimes. And the judge, jury, and prosecutors are "conspiracy theorists."
When you equivocate on the meanings of words you allow your own argument to be reduced to absurdity. That is the danger of the propagandized use of the term "conspiracy theorists."
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That doesn't make it a conspiracy theory. Everything else is one, and the people who advocate them ARE propagating myths.
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