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My first meme | IF YOU SAY "GOD GAVE ME STRENGTH AND COURAGE"; THEN HE MUST HAVE GIVEN ME SEVERELY BAD MENTAL HEALTH TOO 😔 | image tagged in first world problems | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
941 views • 7 upvotes • Made by kristalwalters 6 years ago in fun
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Jack Sparrow trying to think logically?
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OH I'M QUITE THE PHILOSOPHER WHEN I'M NOT DRUNK IT'S JUST THAT I'M ALWAYS DRUNK | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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WHY NOT BOTH? SOCRATES SUPPOSEDLY WAS HARD-DRINKING ("HE COULD DRINK LIKE A BARREL") | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Goode point!
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Well, well, that's kind of multivalent - but anyway I think he has started to think things over again, especially with regard to his disciple Plato. Let's wait and see.
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Multivalent. Great word!
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Oops, I didn't even realize that this is a technical term only - but you understood it, so it can be introduced into everyday language.
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I hope kristal doesn't mind getting all these notifications!?
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Well, everybody has Google nowadays, it's not a shame to have to look up things, I often have to do it, too - main thing you do it instead of just ignoring what you don't understand. And regarding kristal - I think this is a perfect introduction for her to what Imgflip can be like sometimes.
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You gave that to yourself. Repent!
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How can i do that? you're actually crazy
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I can't argue that I'm not crazy, but I'm much happier with myself now than when I conformed to sanity. You should read the reply I left for blindspot.
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Sure. The good things were given to us from god, and the bad things we gave ourselves. How about strenght and courage were given to us by evolution (look at the animal realm) and bad mental health was given to us by some idiot "gods", who messed around with our genes?
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Idk if Kristal is going to respond to this motley crew, and what a welcome for her first meme! But- that's as good of an explanation as any blind!
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That's funny! Yes a few beers with a friend can certainly loosen up the conversation. But as it is technically a depressant, I wouldn't recommend leaning on it too much. But it's a personal thing, some people have a genetically higher tolerance than others for it. It's similar to finding god, if that is important to you. One person will find "god" within, while others need to identify with an outer diety. But there's no need to push one's beliefs about it onto someone else. It's a bit of a bullying tendency. But with each "convert" comes a sense of validation (which can never be fully satisfied) because someone else believes in your god now too!
If you feel alone and it's driving you crazy, take a minute and just "be" with that part of you that feels alone.
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I refer to my long comment to Grind's long comment below, so as not to repeat myself too much.
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I agree entirely. And I didn't mean that you were pushy or bullying with your beliefs. I trust you did not take it that way. ;-)
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Oh no, I took it the right way, you just wanted to remind me of my totalness besides the (admittedly) sometimes quite desperate human being when not in contact therewith. And glad that you agree with my definition of "God" as being "ho logos" in a meaningful translation - I have rarely seen a more idiotic translation than that of John 1 (starting with that of the "Vulgata" [nomen est omen]!)
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(I've seen it all now). Yes, I'd say I agree, with the caveat that God is what nobody admits to being, and everybody really is. As for the Vulgata, I'll need to look at that again in more depth.
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That's exactly what "ho logos" can mean - check the meaning Heraklit gave to it! As regards the Vulgata, you might as well take the English text - same nonsense literally translated from the Vulgata. But you have to know some ancient Greek in order to realize this.
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LOL okay! Don Quixote quoted it too. Have you read that book? It's very funny and can really help during a long bleak winter. I recommend the translation by Edith Grossman. ;-)
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To comment below: I read it a long time ago - but not in an English translation (that would probably be too demanding or time-consuming for me because of all the words I would have to look up). I should read it again whenever I have he time for it (which I will probably never have).
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God only helps those that help themselves. Don't blame all your misfortunes on god and don't think god makes you do anything, good or bad.

Understand that you and the people around you are the conscious, sentient tools god can act through. Everything is the choice of individuals. God can only help guide us, it's up to us to make things happen.

Repentance is to strive for perfection. A perfect person would not be afflicted by mental health problems, or at least not the type the OP is referring to. Repent and have faith that God does his best for all of us, even in the hardest times.
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A perfect person - there isn't any. Mental disease is nothing for "repenting". Have you ever had a serious one? If not so, stop talking about things you don't know anything about.
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I'll keep talking about things I feel I know a little about.

Actually, there have been two perfect humans in western theology. The former man we refer to as God and Christ. Perfection and Godhood are one in the same.

Repentance can help with mental illness. If you're imagining a guy on his knees praying for the crazy to go away, that's not repentance. Repentance can be, in this case, proper counciling and medical care.

Trust God, he knows the way. That itch in your mind saying maybe I should do this or stop that, act on it.
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Sorry - I get the strong impression that you have not learned to think for yourself. So I am no longer interested in this chat.
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Don't dismiss me as unable to think for myself because I believe in God. That's rude.

I was raised a catholic, so naturally, I became an atheist for many years. About a third of my life. Then one day, in desperation, I prayed to God and asked for his help and he saved my life over the course of a few months by guiding me out of a bad situation I allowed myself into.

Ever since then I've had a very good and close relationship with God. He helps me everyday. When things get especially bad, he sends good people that listen to him to help me. I'm sure a lot of strong believers in God, like myself, have similar stories.

People need to be ready and willing to give themselves over to God for his guidance. It's not something everyone can or ever will do. If you never give your total faith to God, you will never know him or have any form of interaction with him. Therefore, it will be very easy to dismiss him as fantasy as you are currently doing. It doesn't mean God doesn't care about you though, it just means you don't listen to him even when he tries to help. Pay attention, always, and you might see the signs.

In other words, Stay woke.
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You are quite wrong with respect to my belief. I believe in God, but probably not in your definition of it. I have a good relationship to "ho logos" (the definition of God in John 1,1; I just translate it correctly) such as "ho logos" shows up in myself. But I do not believe that any being who evolved from "ho logos" was ever perfect, and I have my good reasons for it, and this is where I am probably more awoke than you are - you need a lot of good awareness and courage for that. Of course I also get enough signs from beings from the other side of the veil alias Higgs field, and of course I take note of them. But I don't always agree - as I said, no being ever was perfect - so I critically review the signs for their capabilty of being a guidance for me.
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If you're referring to Jesus as ho logos then we are in agreement, nobody has been perfect since. My point about repentance was that we should all try to be perfect rather than fail to grow. We can do a lot for ourselves if we try.

I'm curious about the beings you refer to as being on the other side of the veil. Can you tell me more or provide a link where I can read about them?
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No, I am not referring to Jesus. "Ho logos" is beyond, and Jesus was not perfect, sorry, and he knows it, too. Well, and your question regardig messages from beyond the veil, I recommend two books for an introduction: Brian L. Weiss "Many lives, many masters", and (since you are a Jesus fan) Gary Renard "The disappearance of the universe" From there you can start ot get deeper into the subject - there are tons of messages around.
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Well, you might be right about Jesus. He's probably come closer than anyone else in the past two thousand years though. Maybe perfection is unobtainable. Perhaps there's a line that must be crossed and he was able to break that boundary even though he wasn't perfect.

Thanks for the reading suggestions. I'm going to check them out.
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Biggest f**king scam ever: An invisible dude who takes credit for everything good and has an invisible opponent to blame on everything bad. What a f**king joke that our society still talks about this nonsense
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Dear kristalwalters, after all this battling back and forth in the comment section, i wanted to say something very personal to you: don't give up with your mental health problem. I was severely mentally ill for - yes - decades having to take heavy psychopharmaceuticals and often having to stay in mental hospitals. And after these literally decades I found cure - and I mean cure, not just improvement of the symptoms. I am certain that in the next couple of years something essential will happen in the treatment of mental diseases. I know it's hard - but you can also learn a lesson from them, albeit a very tough one.
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I don't mind getting these comments. I respect all your beliefs equally. I just put this because that just how i genuinely feel
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