All Capitalist Parties in the US are own & ran by the same Oligarchy

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LOL. this is so off base in so many ways. Killary is a Neo-Liberal, not part of the left. Sanders isn't really a socialist, he supports DNC election fraud and is a Killary supporter. Mike Moore isn't the left either, but that's a whole different story to get into. And the US is literally an Oligarchy where both the Democrat & Republican parties are funded, structured, and ran Oligarchticly. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

I wouldn't consider what either of those leaders did as true communism; what they had were dictatorships.

I'm an Eco-Socialist personally but do recognize that you've more to worry about coming from the Neo-Liberals & Oligarchy than you do from socialists or communists in the US politicly.

Mao, Pol-Pot, Nicolae ceausescu, Tito, Castro.

no government is perfect, but I do believe that Denmark & Sweden are both doing far better than the US and both have a form of Socialist Government. The Nordic model is for sure not perfect, but they do treat their civilians far better than the US treats its own ppl. Most governments are not purely capitalist or purely socialist but have a mix of both, and those that lean more twards Democratic Socialism do tend to have better health, a high quality of life, and less income inequality in their populations than those who lean more towards a pure capitalist model of government, generally speaking.

Actually Denmark and Sweden are not socialist. The Nordic Model is all about preserving capitalism while providing a strong welfare state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/

The PM of Denmark also called Bernie Slanders an idiot and told him to stop calling his country socialist.

I never said the Nordic model is purely Socialist, I've stated that it's mixed economy is less capitalist than the US. Also, I agree that Sanders is a corporate shill; he is not Socialist. Sanders votes to support the military-industrial complex, he supported election fraud by endorsing the oligarchy's non-democratically appointed Democratic nominee and refused to fight in the DNC election fraud case. Aside from that, he supports droning & supports colonialism in Isreal.

The shill he endorsed during the 2016 election, Killary, is a neo-liberal corporatist Warhawk who profited off of DAPL, all of which Sanders knew and supported her regardless of. He's not much of a socialist if he endorsed the likes of HRC

When you still have a market economy where freedom of choice mostly reins that is hardly socialist. Socialism is the government ownership of all land and industry and a controlled, Planned economy. Nobody is arguing for a complete capitalism either. They are arguing against what you want.

The PM of Denmark criticized Sanders for calling his country socialist. He didn’t criticize him for not being socialist enough. Sanders is a socialist. He was once a member of a party that endorsed pure socialism. He is also on record praising people like Fidel Castro.

The Democratic Socialists of America website also endorses and calls for the complete overthrow of capitalism.

What do you think I want? I'm not a member of Democratic Socialists of America; I'm an Eco-Socialist and have not stated in this conversation whether or not I wish to overthrow capitalism in the US.

We'll have to agree to disagree on weather Sanders is Socilist; personally I feel that his support for the Capitalist Hillary Clinton is a litmus for how he supports capitalist Oligarchy over socialism, as well as his voting history that favors the military industrial complex that makes war for the profit of the 1% instead of building green infrastructure here in the US.

I really do not believe that any country has a perfect government, and most function on a spectrum between socialism & capitalism; different countries having different policies that mix the two economic forms. there are acceptions of course, but to see pure capitalism or pure socialism is indeed rarer than the sight of mixed economies, generally speaking

It is such a waste of time arguing with you. You live in your own little alternative reality. All I can do is work to stop people like you. Goodbye

~shrugs~

well... unless the US gov comes in and causes a coup and/or embargo to sabotage their government and/or economy, as they have done to many socialist dictatorships in the past.

I'm not in favor of dictatorship in the US, but I also don't feel like the US should be so invested in the Military-industrial complex's wars for the profit of the 1%.

I do believe that the people of the US would be far better served by bringing most the troops home and giving them jobs here in America building Green infrastructure, and should be creating an FDR style Green New Deal with the aim of full employment for the working class here in the US.

Well we could also deport illegal aliens which would make life a lot better for me and millions of other Americans.

Oh, are you Native American? I'm sure the Native Americans would love for the Colonialist government to leave.

Investing in Green infrastructure would make wars for oil obsolete, would reduce greenhouse emissions, and diminish some of the Military industrial complex's incentive to be meddling in the governing of other countries; diminishing the US Government's incentive to exploit the scarce resources of other nations, as they would become more self-sufficient and invested in renewable resources at home.

Well what do you want us to do. Okay we will complete giving away the country to Mexico like we are currently doing because of what our ancestors supposedly did over 200-300-400 years ago. With what was once the USA no more and the former country now an extension of third world Mexico the world economy would collapse in a heart beat. You really are a thinker aren’t with that silly sociology degree from some Marxist college.

something interesting that you might not know, is that both Hillary Clinton & Trump were making money off of DAPL & were fervent supporters of DAPL despite it breaking international treaties with the tribes, and inflicting human rights violations on the tribes. Both the Dem & Rep parties are owned by the same corporations who literally poison, torture, and try to kill family in the allied tribes for corporate greed.

I'm Native American as well, but colonialism in the US never ended; they just say it ended in public schools and the mainstream media in order to whitewash history and the US Government's continuous treaty violations and human rights violations against the tribes both in the past and now.

PrivetName: we aren't giving away the country to Mexico, the citizens of the US have given the country away to the Oligarchy. Your anger is misplaced, you are blaming the victims of US's Government Kleptocracy instead of the kleptocratic oligarchs who destabilized the Mexican economy by flooding them with the cheap US corn. If you don't like Mexican's illegal immigration, don't blame the immigrants who are looking to survive and get jobs, get mad at the ppl and structures that cause them to immigrate. If you don't like American corperations undercutting US workers by hiering illegals for less than minimum wage than organize to push legislation that would harshly punish the corporations for hiring illegal immigrants for less than minimum wage.
As is, the laws in the US serve to punish illegal imigrants for working more so than the people who hier them for less than minimum wadge, and thoes same corporations are known to call INS to get their own illegal workers deported after the work is done, so they can avoid paying them altogether at times. An interesting book that goes over that government construct is "Reefer Madness: Sex, Drugs, and Cheap Labor in the American Black Market" by Eric Schlosser; among other things, it goes over how illegal immigrants are used by corporations in the US.

Side note: My college wasn't Marxist btw.

also, governing very close to pure socialism can, does, and has, successfully flourished in small-scale communities & tribes.

As a matter of fact I am Native American. I was born here in the US.

Also colonial America ended over 200 years ago.

That's not what a Native American is, as if you couldn't figure out by the context.
Oh, that's right, you couldn't.

A Native American is someone who is born and raised in America like I was, genius.

No, you intentionally obtuse ingrate. A Native American is an American who is Native to America. Hence the term.

Words mean things.

Which I am since I was born and raised here, stupid.

Yes I am native. Sorry to bust your bubble.

You are stupid, but not native. So shush.

They wear aloha shirts, throw shakas, even say aloha and mahalo yet they have a real resentment toward and disdain for the Native Hawaiian. Imperial colonialism never really ended, it just got camouflaged. We are truly the bastard child of England and a lot of what we do as a country is still very influenced by those roots.

The same people on the mainland that see nothing wrong with touting Native names and imagery for pop culture yet see no irony in being exceedingly racist to them.

"Welsh" says it all. Originally "Walha" meaning foreigner, as the invading Anglos dubbed the native Britons. Two millenia later, the notion still sticks.

And those people are said to have originated in Africa, where the cradle of humankind started.

I didn't move to America from England you idiot. I was BORN HERE.

Being born in America makes you a natural born citizen of the US. It doesn't make you a Native American. You really need to start paying attention in class, mon frere.

Hey genius, THE USA IS NOT A SMALL SCALE COMMUNITY OR TRIBE!!! There are communes you can move on to. They work because people CHOOSE to live there. Communism is forced on an entire nation (including people who don't want it) which is another big reason communism doesn't work.

You seem to mistakenly conflate neo-liberalism & oligarchy, with communist, dictatorship, and mixed government forms that are neither pure capitalism nor pure socialism. These are all different things.

Yes i have studied and I am well aware of how the government functions thank you

No I put COMMUNISM in with communism and neo-liberalism with neo-liberalism. Why don't you move on to one of these communes somewhere and leave the rest of us alone. Seriously. We let the amish live their lifestyle in their own parts of the country, lets do the same with you commies. Give you what you want and leave the rest of us alone.

PS are you like 16 years old?

nope, I'm a 33-year-old Sociologist, and what we are talking about is sociology. If you have questions and are open to respectful conversation from varying points of view I am open to discussing these topics. Knowledge is power and better understanding how the government really functions and what different forms of government are and how they function, is a way to understand your world better and make more informed decisions.

oh, yeah, and Obama is also a Neo-liberal, war-hawk, just like Killary

Weird cropping, the handles suddenly flew past the extremities of the window

Take a week off and look what happens. Have you found a way toggle that off? Somebody mentioned it might be a nice checkbox to have under "more options" to be able to snap to corners the old way.