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And No, The Crusades Were NOT "Self-Defense" As Christian Apologists Like To Argue

And No, The Crusades Were NOT "Self-Defense" As Christian Apologists Like To Argue | CHRISTIANITY SPREAD BY PEACE AND LOVE? THE NORMAN CONQUEST OF ENGLAND, THE TOKUGAWA CLAN THAT FOUGHT AGAINST EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN AGGRESSION, THE ANCIENT EUROPEAN RELIGIONS THAT ARE NOW EXTINCT BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY, THE INQUISITION IN THE WHOLE AMERICAS, THE... | image tagged in memes,ancient aliens,religion of peace,christians christianity,japan,history | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Oh yes. Say that the actions of a movement some 3000 odd years represent the same movement today
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Not to mention the fact that many claim to be Christians without actually believing or following Christ's teachings
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That's one of the saddest truths I know of
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The Crusades weren't started in self defense; they were started in defence of others. To be specific, the Crusades began in AD 1095 when Christian nations in Europe came to the aid of the Christian Byzantine Empire which was under attack from Muslim Sejic Turks.
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That is technically true. However, Pope Urban also used it as an excuse to attack Jerusalem, which was held by a completely different sultanate, where everyone had lived in peace for centuries.
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What I said was not "technically" true, it is just true.

Not to mention that peace in the Holy Land ended when Muslims there started kicking Christians around. Pope Urban had political gains too, but there was real persecution happening which gave the reason (taking advantage of existing persecution for political gains... reminds me of BLM in a way).
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The Muslims didn't start kicking Christians around! They respected the other religions, letting them worship in peace. It is literally in their Holy Book.
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Yes, Muslims did start kicking Christians around. For one; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine%E2%80%93Seljuk_wars#Origins

Sometimes they respected other religions, but sometimes they didn't. I assume you mean Surah 6:108 "And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do."
The only reason Muslims are commanded not to insult followers of other religions ONLY TO STOP THEM FROM INSULTING ALLAH.

There are many instances of Muslims in the Qu'ran and Hadiths not respecting the religions of those they meet. In the Hadiths (the writings of Muhammad's companions about his teachings and how and Islamic society should be structured), there's numerous examples of not respecting other religions; there's a time Muhammad's closest companion Abu-Bakr mocked pagans criticizing Muhammad's warmongering ways by telling them to suck the clitoris of their goddess al-Lat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtNnkYVHh4&ab_channel=Acts17Apologetics

Not to mention; "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures." Surah 98:6 (People of the Scripture are Jews and Christians. Keep in mind later Surahs in the Qu'ran abrogate - nullify - earlier Surahs).

If it's in the Qu'ran, what book, chapter and verse besides Surah 6:108, which I've already explained?
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The language of strawman? Everything the anonymous person who posted that image could get wrong, he got wrong.
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Not really.
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Check out my other comments and you'll see how wrong he is, I provide sources, the original poster expected you to take their bigoted words on faith.
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I checked. I still disagree with you.
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Why?
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Nice job trying to frame the persecution OF Christians by the Tokugawa Clan as crimes done BY Christians. Those Christian missionaries hadn't done anything to the Japanese but the Tokugawa Clan started the conflict. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrs_of_Japan

Violent rejection of Christianity is part of why Christianity is so rare in Japan. In fact, Buddhist leaders at the time were helping the government persecute Christians to keep the religion out (that's right - Christians on the RECEIVING end of religious persecution and Buddhists at the PERSECUTING end of religious persecution).
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By the way, the Norman Conquest of England helped eliminate slavery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England
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