Criticizing, parodying, etc, is one thing, but when it itself treads too uncomfortably close to that which it mocks, a line is not just eventually crossed, it becomes erased.
Not saying that was the intent, but the choice of words was maybe not ideal.
Really jack? You're going to have ethics? I thought you stood up to those who held back? We're not getting moralistic in our old age, are we? If we do that we'll have to watch who we call a hypocrite. There's a difference between someone shoving a teenage girl's face down on to his 30-something crotch and mocking his hypocrisy and those of his followers in strong terms when he tries to deny it to gain a taste of power without coming clean on his religious bullsh!t.
Dude - are you getting morals? How...weak. I guess I shouldn't see you scouring the wretched of the flip anymore? Can't really hold yourself above others if you have to lower yourself to their petty beliefs, can you?
What's depressing is how long these dudes were able to get away with it. It actually seems refreshing to have the light of day catch them out, even if some of those getting caught are people I've admired in the past.
Nothing like having one's childhood heroes, real or fictional, turned into something foul, eh? Well, not maybe not childhood heroes exactly, but like you said "people I've admired in the past."
Sometimes I sit back, look at the TV or monitor, and ask "Would I be better off under a rock, for real?"
You know I value truth and fairness above all, so I feel the need to point out that he was never actually accused of child molestation. None of the accusers were young children when the supposed events happened. I don't know that I would say assaulting a 14-year-old falls into the category of child molestation proper.
That being said, you could take all (and I mean ALL) of the sexual abuse allegations against Roy Moore and set them aside completely, and he would STILL be absolutely, totally unfit for any public office or position of authority. He has shown not once but twice that he feels he can ignore direct orders from judges when those orders conflict with his personal beliefs. He can ignore and disregard the law when it suits him. He believes the First Amendment protects Christians and Christians only. He thinks that homosexuality should be recriminalized and has even given vague answers when asked if it should be punishable by death. He is a freak of nature, an insane babbler and foister of bullshit, not fit for the company of good and decent men.
So having the exact, verifiable by law truth, is going to be available in most circumstances? Bill Cosby has no absolute truth fairy magic proof in front of him. Doesn't mean we let him walk, does it? I agree with you that people should have their day in court, and also agree with you that his non-punishable heinous aspects are enough to keep him out of the realm of the government. But to have Moore say, 'I'm not guilty' then say 'yes I dated women in their teen years'? At a certain point you have to look at the facts on the ground and say that 'yes, Roy Moore is a child abuser who lies and makes his religion a mockery'. Maybe his accusers are 14 and not 4, but he still uses his power to abuse them. If Roy Moore was just the standard stupid right-wing f#ck anf got elected I'd accept it. It is democracy after all. T But to be a hypocritical wank. That's provable beyond a solidified legal-boundary proof. Or something like that. ;D
The timing of the accusations did seem rather suspicious of course. But it would not surprise me if he did in fact sexually abuse women/girls. The last few years of his shenanigans have proven beyond any doubt that he is the kind of person who can't stand not getting his way. He HAS to have everything done his way.
First off I have to say that I had a three-beer lunch yesterday and my response may have been too passionate-sounding. Sorry if I came off too strong. But you're right, people should have their day in court, and Moore's politics are enough to condemn him in my book. But I think all these claims about timing of accusations among conservatives are moot when you consider the fact that women are feeling empowered to come out about past misdeeds done to them since the whole Harvey Weinstein affair came to light. I think it's great - a true 'draining of the swamp'. Even Al Franken got what was coming to him even if his crimes were more along the lines of boorishness than sexual assault. But yeah, the whole thing of ignoring the law of the land when it came to the ten commandments tablets shows he's not fit to hold high office. The 'God's law'/Moore's opinion is higher than US laws is a dangerous road to authoritarianism. Though I doubt we've seen the last of him. Even losing in court twice and not being elected to state office will likely not hinder him or his supporters from raising his stanky corpse for another fight.
If took what you said as being too harsh, just chalk that up to my tendency to be overly-thin-skinned :)
Even many conservatives recognized that Moore's willingness to do things his way, Constitution be damned, is not what this country needs. He's definitely the kind of person who polarizes everyone. You're likely either totally for him or totally against him. Not too many middle of the road types when dealing with someone this extreme.
I have nothing against Al Franken, so I am kind of sad to see him resign, even though what he did was wrong. Too bad Trump doesn't feel the same way about himself :)
Nah, I didn't think you thin-skinned, I just read what I wrote and thought to myself 'that's what I should've wrote to some numb-nuts conservative, not Octavia who basically agrees with me'. :)
The truth is that, regardless of all the preaching about morals, those on the right tend to have fewer scruples, especially when it comes to power. If Moore could've guaranteed a vote for another right-leaning justice on the Supreme Court then many evangelicals would turn the other cheek and say those women should just shut up and take one for the good of southern Christian values. Which of course is hypocrisy. At least Franken fell on his sword, and there's something to be said for that. The cold reality is that Minnesota will get a Democrat in his place and Alabama did not. And there's something positive to be said for their actions.
Oh, I'm not bipartisan myself, Nat. I think most bad juju comes from the right side of the political spectrum. But I'll expect the likes of Conyers and Franken to fall on their swords when their boorishness gets outed, instead of praying to Jesus that a rank pedophile like Moore gets elected so we's can have a good conservative supreme court that'll take all our freedoms away...
So glad to see Moore, Trump, and Bannon repudiated, especially in Alabama of all places. I served on the leadership of four conservative GOP presidential campaigns, served for years as a GOP officer, and was a leader in the early tea party movement and numerous other campaigns and grassroots efforts. But I have disavowed the GOP and the tea party moment over their embracing of Trumpism. Moore and Trump are symptoms of a cancer that has destroyed the GOP and the "Christian right". It's truly sad. There are a few of us who hold to Christian and conservative values who are intellectually honest enough and morally consistent enough to call out our own and to oppose Trumpism. But there are far too few of us. God speed Bob Mueller
I've noticed a few conservatives coming around like you have, even on imgflip. I'm a registered Democrat but consider myself more a liberal; a 'liberal' in the sense of a centrist who supports individual autonomy instead of a lefty socialist as Lee Atwater under the first Bush and Karl Rove under the second were so successful in tagging it among those on the right. Yeah, populism of any political stripe can end up as authoritarianism. I'm not virulently against Trump because of any programs he has - he has no ideas. Everything he does is solely to satiate his won ego. We've had bad presidents, but none that ever did things just to draw attention to themselves. Declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel despite no other country doing so and even most conservatives disavowing it? (And with no force of law behind it?) That wasn't so much living up to a campaign promise than it was Trump getting the media to pay attention to him for another news cycle. There are no promises realized, no politics behind it; it's all bunkum served up to garner one man a chance at puffery. :P
I will be back to that level quickly. Warning! I can't start 'entertaining' his stupid horse riding, child stalking, pretending to be a follower of religion, orange turd cheetah praising turd moron ass-eyed moron! ;)
I never really watched much of the show myself, but it was one of those cultural norms that dropped in between my age and yours. It was a take on Wonder Woman only minus the super powers and set in some ancient time. Or something like that.
Nor any against Hillary Clinton, or George Soros, or those poor pizza shop owners who ran that sex ring in the basement, nor was any proof offered of 3 million illegal voters who kept Trump from reaching a majority and thus from reaching a mandate. Truth doesn't follow the orders of some lock-step memer. And Alabamans voted their consciences and made sure the ol' hypocrite stayed back in the state. The ol' hypocrite who said he made passes at teen girls when he was in his 30s...
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And actually some things have been proven regarding Hillary. The Obama Administration admitted that Hillary was wrong to use a private server for top secret information as Secretary of State, Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned when it was revealed that she rigged the primaries in favor of Hillary Clinton, and the stole emails from Hillary's server has revealed quite a bit of her dirty business.
So ninja - am I thinking the wrong ideas about you? I've seen your response here and your response on Octavia's Alabama Senate election meme, and I've looked at your memes you've created as ninja_2018. Unless you are a completely different person than ninja_2016 I'm thinking you might be nothing more than a Republican. Which I can certainly accept as some (some) of my ideas are closer to the GOP than the Democrats. So tell me - who are you? I'm willing to call a truce if you are willing to discuss. So?
I'm not ninja2016, he was living in the past. I'm the wave of the future. I love my country and will always protect her. No need for a truce, because we were never at war.
Hillary lost the electoral college majority but she won the majority of the popular vote.
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It is quite often you pasted that to that definition as well on that site. Here is what Hillary really "won"
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plurality
"US The number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority."
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Learn the difference between a majority and a plurality. It is quite obvious you copied and pasted the election results to the dictionary definition as well https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plurality
US The number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority.
The fact that Moore was banned from a shopping mall for sexually predatory behavior toward young girls speaks for itself. The fact that the accusations were not anonymous, but from numerous credible women who all came out publicly and were corroborated by over 30 named witnesses also speaks for itself. And no, I'm no liberal snowflake. I'm a life long conservative, though and intellectually honest one.
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You know, I never said he didn't do it, but I can also believe that this was a conspiracy by the Democrats and their lapdog media considering these types of races are usually overlooked and knowing how much the insane left wants nothing more than Trump's head. Have a trial to where he can prove his guilt or innocence.
Either way, the GOP didn't want him either and are relieved that he lost. And Jones will definitely lose the seat in 2020 because the GOP isn't going to make such a mistake again (plus the turnout will be a lot more than 40% in the state in 2020).
You saw the video of the guy admitting they came from all over the country. Another admitted to voting twice.
Craig's list adds for people to vote. Thousands of gallons registered just before the election.
The court of Alabama agreed to destroy the ballets immediately after.
Democrats/soros are still pretty mad 4chan got trump elected.
I'm loving it.
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Yey the more I look back on that the more I realize that it was all a plot by the Soros paid Democratic party and their lapdogs in the media. Trying to scare GOP voters away from the candidate. Notice how Moore's accusers have all of a sudden disappeared. The Dem-erratic party and their lapdogs in the media are out for blood more than ever. Alabama is just the beginning. The GOP better be well armed and ready for 2018 because the Demo-rats have declared an all out war.
You ever notice they don't ever wanna talk about soros?
Be prepared. We were told that they wouldn't just hand us our country back.
They're issuing illegals I'd cards now in Chicago.
You ever wonder why democrats are against I'd laws?
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Criticizing, parodying, etc, is one thing, but when it itself treads too uncomfortably close to that which it mocks, a line is not just eventually crossed, it becomes erased.
Not saying that was the intent, but the choice of words was maybe not ideal.
I have trouble looking at the news, now.
Sometimes I sit back, look at the TV or monitor, and ask "Would I be better off under a rock, for real?"
That being said, you could take all (and I mean ALL) of the sexual abuse allegations against Roy Moore and set them aside completely, and he would STILL be absolutely, totally unfit for any public office or position of authority. He has shown not once but twice that he feels he can ignore direct orders from judges when those orders conflict with his personal beliefs. He can ignore and disregard the law when it suits him. He believes the First Amendment protects Christians and Christians only. He thinks that homosexuality should be recriminalized and has even given vague answers when asked if it should be punishable by death. He is a freak of nature, an insane babbler and foister of bullshit, not fit for the company of good and decent men.
Even many conservatives recognized that Moore's willingness to do things his way, Constitution be damned, is not what this country needs. He's definitely the kind of person who polarizes everyone. You're likely either totally for him or totally against him. Not too many middle of the road types when dealing with someone this extreme.
I have nothing against Al Franken, so I am kind of sad to see him resign, even though what he did was wrong. Too bad Trump doesn't feel the same way about himself :)
The truth is that, regardless of all the preaching about morals, those on the right tend to have fewer scruples, especially when it comes to power. If Moore could've guaranteed a vote for another right-leaning justice on the Supreme Court then many evangelicals would turn the other cheek and say those women should just shut up and take one for the good of southern Christian values. Which of course is hypocrisy. At least Franken fell on his sword, and there's something to be said for that. The cold reality is that Minnesota will get a Democrat in his place and Alabama did not. And there's something positive to be said for their actions.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plurality
"US The number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority."
US The number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority.
Either way, the GOP didn't want him either and are relieved that he lost. And Jones will definitely lose the seat in 2020 because the GOP isn't going to make such a mistake again (plus the turnout will be a lot more than 40% in the state in 2020).
Craig's list adds for people to vote. Thousands of gallons registered just before the election.
The court of Alabama agreed to destroy the ballets immediately after.
Democrats/soros are still pretty mad 4chan got trump elected.
I'm loving it.
Be prepared. We were told that they wouldn't just hand us our country back.
They're issuing illegals I'd cards now in Chicago.
You ever wonder why democrats are against I'd laws?