Creepy Condescending Wonka

Creepy Condescending Wonka Meme | Tell me again how nothing suddenly exploding into everything makes more sense than an all powerfull creator that has always existed. | image tagged in memes,creepy condescending wonka | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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SOO TELL ME AGAIN HOW A MAGICAL MAN WHO CAME OUT OF NOWHERE AND WHO MADE EVERYTHING MAKES MORE SENSE THEN EXPLOSION OF EVERYTHING | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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How does nothing explode? How does nothing become something? It defies the laws of physics, which your Creator created. He didn't come out of nowhere, He's ALWAYS existed, meaning no beginning and no end = ETERNAL. Makes more sense than something from nothing (Big Bang religion)
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You're doing that every night. You're your own magical man when dreaming. You create a whole world out of nothing and have an experience of living in it. And it certainly just happens without any kind of bang or huff or a puff. :)
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Who tells you that the "creator" is a magical man???
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Well he's normally depicted as a man with a beard, so thus he's magical man who came out of nowhere.
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Also https://i.imgflip.com/1na4ub.gif
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Hmmm, I don't get it, but I do get your user name...
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LOL, I thought you were telling me to jump into the shark's mouth! Thanks, favor returned!
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And stiiiiiiiiiill no upvote from the all wise OP who speaketh in hard core facts about invisible eternal magicians that no one has heard from since Mohammed flew away 1400 years ago but can't figure out what the green upvote thingy means.
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Hey, I only replied to someone else's meme and suddenly I'm the OP? BTW, how am I supposed to figure out who gave me upvotes? And, I just really started getting into making memes, not computer/tech savvy, kinda old, so cut me a freakin' break! Did you want an upvote honey? I don't tend to hand them out like candy--you gotta earn it.
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OP means Original Poster. You did post the meme that is at the top of this page so that makes you the OP.

It is common courtesy to upvote those that you're reply to it is just about being polite here, not something anyone had to explicitly earn.
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I know that OP is original poster, but my meme was a reply to another meme. I didn't know it would become an original post on it's own, and didn't know the etiquette regarding upvotes. Thanks for letting me know.
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If you submit it then it gets featured publicly on this site under your name, otherwise it remains private and only accessible to those you explicitly share it with.

Welcome to the imgflip.
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Thanks for explaining that for me.
And yes, I did upvote your comments.
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Thanks :)
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SERIOUSLY? You just used my meme to reply to my meme.
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Oh, come on, my comment wasn't even up long enough for you to read it! LOL! Don't worry, keep reading it and it will make sense after awhile.
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Relax, dear. I only replied to you with that meme as a joke because of your reply to IsayIsay when he replied to you with that meme. LOL
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LMBO! Sorry about being defensive. This is the first time I've gotten this much of a reaction from a meme, so I'm a little discombobulated. I promise, I have a great sense of humor (though you might not be able to tell at the moment)!
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For the record, when I said "relax dear" I was doing so with a pleasant smile on my face. Have fun. ttyL
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I understand. I'm writing all of these comments laughing at the same time, so I am having fun. Something I've learned about this experience, is people get triggered when you mention God (or maybe I should use PC terms like, "mentioning God invites a lively discussion"). Wow! LOL
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HA!
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yes, because what I posted is entirely logical. We're only dreaming that we're bodies here in this world, so even when you think you're awake and reading this, it is still a dream. Your dreams at night are basically dreams within a dream. This world is not our ultimate reality and will be all gone once we actually wake up, so it is really nothingness.
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This world is nothing but beyond this world there lies reality. Our true self is spirit all together as one. We fell asleep and had a dream that we're in this universe. This is no different from the dreams that you've at night. Although there is only one dream there are countless figures in the dream that seems to exists in a world that is very real.
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But it is entirely illogical. If there is really nothing, how can you even exist in order to dream that you have a body? Something cannot come from nothing. It doesn't make sense. The Creator would want everything to be pretty simple--what you see is what you get--so you can figure out how to properly live in the creation. Sometimes the Hand of Providence will come in to nudge you in the right direction. Satan wants to confuse, so he has you thinking you are just a dream within a dream (who is the dreamer?) and yet nothing at the same time. That's kind of what the big bang theory is all about, making you feel tiny, worthless, nothing. Pretty depressing right? Makes you want to think the world isn't real, right? Because it hurts to think that we are nothing. Plus, I think people are too scared to admit that if there is one true God, we're in seriously deep sh*t for how badly we've all been sinning and might actually have to own up to it, apologize to God and stop sinning so we don't get punished for all eternity along with Satan and his demons. It is a scary thought, and I had it myself when I came to this realization. I didn't want to admit that I was not as good of a person as I thought I was. But, we are real, God is real and loves us. Sometimes, even though you love your children, you have to punish them when they don't obey the rules in order to make sure they don't end up in serious trouble. That's why you have rules in the first place.
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Our true self is Spirit safe in Heaven. This world is but only a dream of exile. God did not create this world, we did while dreaming which explains why it is such a mess. This is just like the dreams you've at night.

God does not punish us at all, which is what the Tale of the Prodigal Son is really about.

See also my reply to j_n0yb in this thread.
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"God does not punish us at all, which is what the Tale of the Prodigal Son is really about"

I get what you are saying about this story. It represents God's children (all of us) wandering away and squandering our lives and sinning, only to come back humbled because we lost everything, and our Father rejoices upon our return and has a feast to celebrate. Those children who stayed with the Father the whole time and did not wander are irked by this. But our Father reminds them that even after everything the wandering children did, in the end they returned to their Father. And Father is always willing to forgive if you just humble yourself and ask for forgiveness.

When I say you are punished for sinning, what I mean is that if you follow God's path, the way Jesus explained, the Hand of God is upon you to protect you and bless you. But if you sin, the Hand of God is taken away and you are open to attack and oppression from demons (taking the form of economic, family, personal, health, etc., troubles). You get God's protection back again once you realize your sin, repent and confess it to Jesus and ask forgiveness. God's protection and blessings are the reward for your repentance and return to His ways.
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Something I made a few weeks back.

Yes, God does not punish at all it, is us that chose pain and suffering when we erred.

So when ever we are making a choice we're effectively choosing between God or pain, and since we don't always know what He wants of us, it is better to let Him decide for you in all things always. :)
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"If there is really nothing, how can you even exist in order to dream that you have a body? Something cannot come from nothing. It doesn't make sense."

Exactly, as does your concept of God.

Further, if this concept existence of this almighty creator has any validity, you, in comparison, are tiny and worthless in comparison. That's kinda what makes it God.
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Just because we are tiny and worthless in comparison to God doesn't mean He doesn't exist. Our minds are too puny to wrap around the concept of eternal, which is why you frustrate yourself trying to figure out how and when God came into existence. Since you can't grasp that He has always existed and therefore has no beginning, you figure He doesn't exist. The fact that he loves us tiny, worthless beings is actually what gives us the desire to strive to please Him. When you please Him, you are blessed (rewarded). If you displease Him, you are cursed (punished).
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The bodies which we mistakenly believe to be ourselves are indeed nothing to God, but our true self as
Spirit is everything to Him. We're his Treasure as it says in "Tale of the Prodigal Son".
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If said creator has always existed, then what's up with "In the beginning..."?
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God exists outside of our known space and time, meaning our time does not apply to Him. In the beginning is in reference to the beginning of our time and space, not His. Anyone with basic knowledge of Christianity and has done even just a little bit of research from credible historical and religious scholars would know and understand this basic concept.
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"From the very beginning the Word was with God."

There's that pesky "beginning" again; this time in the Gospel of John.

No scholars; no analysis. Just direct quotes from the source material. Do you mean to tell me that two Biblical authors were wrong?
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And once again, you misconstrude what the beginning is. There is no beginning or end of God. The beginning in Genesis and in John is reference to the beginning of our universe. God exists outside of our time and space, so therefore our beginning is not His beginning. What is it you are failing to grasp here?
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It doesn't state that.
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Think about it this way. Had it been due to a singularity expanding rapidly like the majority of big bang scientists state, is the singularity inside our universe or outside our universe?

Or a simplier method. You have the task of building a 2ft x 2ft box. Are you building this box while inside of it or outside of it? Same princle. If the universe does not yet exist, whatever created it has to exist outside of the universe. Even with big bang, outside of the sigularity was supposedly absolutely nothing, no space or anything. It was a complete vacuum. Where this singularity supposedly existed at was also considered a place where time did not exist. So this singularity existed outside of our space and time. So God and the singularity are interchangeable.
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. This is the point in time in which our universe was created. If our universe had not yet existed, then it is quite obvious that for God to be able to create it, he would have to exist outside of it. So yes it does say it, if you know what you are reading.
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(shhhh, you're not supposed to notice the very first line in the Bible)
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I guess you don't know the meaning of ALWAYS, so I'll school you. It means no beginning, no end = ETERNAL.
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But...there must have always been a beginning to something.
But since I'm Agnostic, we both know we can't prove anything without proper evidence~ x3
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"I will always love hamburgers"
"I will treasure this forever"
"Eternally yours"

Um, Google if your dictionary is out of order?
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The Big Bang Theory doesn't state that the universe spontaneously generated itself from circumstances lacking any kind of force or causality. In fact, it doesn't even address why or how the universe came to exist in the first place; it simply attempts to trace the history of the universe back to its earliest observable incipient. Whatever aspacial and atemporal forces transcend the observable universe and its origin are completely unknown to us. The whole "ex nihilo nihil eit" argument is perhaps one of the biggest straw man arguments of all time, and has nothing to do with the Big Bang Theory, which many (if not most) people of faith do not consider incompatible with their religion or the existence of God.
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Mind you, that "all powerful creator" wasn't even recognized as that till 2600 years ago by the people that created him.
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You keep refusing to listen, and therefore I am done wasting time on a pathetic low-life such as yourself.

You think that each religion copied and borrowed stories from a previous, instead of realizing the TRUTH of what took place. Before the sons of Abraham, there was only 1 religion, and as far as I am aware it was never given a name. When Abraham's sons went out into the world, giving birth to many nations, but also giving birth to many religions. Funny how Abraham is believed to have been born around 4,000 years ago.

If many religions' holy books sharesilar stories in the beginning chapters, why is your first and only conclusion that one stole from another, instead of the more likely fact that they all shared the same history? If they all branched from the same religion, then the beginnings would be nearly the same, with different interpretations of what took place. But you would need to study the descendents of Abraham to understand this.

If Christianity was birthed 2017 years ago, why were the disciples Jewish? Look up the birth of Christianity and you will see that it was birthed in the 3rd century, making it more like 1,700 years old. You do realize that Catholics are 1 of many denominations of Christianity, right? In fact it was the first classified as Christian. For the first 3 centuries, "Christians" were Jews that followed a different beliefs than that of other Jews, that of which Jesus taught. Just becaused they were following the new teachings from Jesus, that didn't mean they were no longer Jews, but more like a different denomination of Jews, like Christianity has today. But still, even then, the teachings from Jesus on how to live and worship God date back to Genesis 1:1. So if you are going to state that the beliefs a particular group follows dictates when that religion was conceived, than Christianity is the oldest religion there is. So which is it? Is the religion birthed based on when the beliefs were birthed or when the name for it was given? Can't be any other way.

But you know what, don't bother responding because I won't bother reading any more from you. You have wasted enough of my time and I don't care to hear any more BS from you.
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Now you are just being a retarded. Nothing I have stated has been a lie, you just lack the intellectual capabilities to understand what is being said. And there is only 1 God, not multiple gods.

I am only responding because your stupidity requires it.

God does not reveal Himself to everyone because of our sin. He cannot be in presence of our sin, HENCE why Jesus said "Father, why have you forsaken me" as Jesus was taking in all the sin of the world while on the cross. God turned His eyes away from Jesus because at that moment during the sacrifice God could not look upon Him. Also if you recall that after Adam and Eve sinned for the first time, they couldn't look upon God and God no longer walked beside them physically. No other point after then did God appear to anyone in His physical form. This is part of Christianity 101.

If I am the one triggered, why is it you are the one constantly cursing and using the Lord's name in vein? And I haven't been going thru and using any alts. Had I been, your comments would be hidden and most likely deleted from the amount of flags they would be receiving. So don't be trying to accuse me of using alts because other people agree with me and disagree with everything you have stated.

Obviously you don't know what it was meant when it says that God made people in His own image, and I already know you lack the intellectual capabilities to understand so I won't waste any more time trying to explain it to you.
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You obviously know very little about Christianity and the root of where it came from. But what should we expect from someone who thinks science has all the answers when the entire theory involving big bang, abiogenesis, and evolution are only based off of what is observed with absolutely no evidence of how it all started. Each one of those theories can easily be surmised as saying they are observations of the results of God's work at the point of creation, which is why science will never be able to explain the first steps (or many of the in between stages of evolution).
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The term Christianity might have started around then, but the religious beliefs it is based off of started in the beginning, the first religion that actually has no name that I am aware of but can be referred to as God's Chosen. Christian means follower of Christ. Jesus Christ followed God's laws, not the laws of man like the Moses Laws. If I had the time and energy I would gove you the full hostory lesson, but you are onviously one that doesn't care to listen.
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Ever hear of the 611 Laws of Moses? Those go beyong the 10 Commandments and was what man thought they needed to do in order to stay pure in the eyes of God. Those laws went away with the sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus.

What "religion" would you classify Adam, Eve, and Noah (for example) to have followed? They weren't Hebrew or Jewish. Their religious beliefs were that of having a personal relationship with God, which is exactly what Jesus had. So if Christianity is that of following Jesus, and Jesus had a personal relationship with God, which is what the first people in the Bible had with God, than the concepts of Christianity go beyond that of 2000 years ago. The same goes with the concept of 1 God. It too goes beyond that of the Persians.

BTW, do you realize that Christianity was not first used until around 300 years after Jesus? Jesus and his followers were actually Jews. So it is less than the 2017 years that you were trying to say. But the beliefs of Christianity go back to the beginning of time. Have you actually studied religion without using religious bashing sites, you would know that.
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What have I asked you that you already stated? Adam, Eve, and Noah go a lot further back than just 3,500 years. Every religion you mentioned started AFTER Abraham. So you have failed to answer what the first religion was.

What lie did I put in Jesus's mouth?

When Jesus stated that He was here to reaffirm the Father's Covenant with His people, that is only confirming everything I previously stated about Jesus having a personal relationship with God, which goes back to what the first religion was all about. Nearly every religion since is about working for the right to be in Heaven, doing enough good deeds to buy your way in. True Christianity is all about having a personal relationship with God, just like Adam, Eve, Noah, Moses, and Abraham all had.

All you are doing is deflecting because you realize you are wrong and are incapable of admitting it.
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You really lack the intelligence to read, don't you?

"No, they preceeded Judaism, hence the fact that they came thousands of years before it." That is exactly what I have been saying, but what you constantly fail to be able to comprehend is the relationship they had with God is the same type of relationship Jesus taught us to have with God. Hence why I have been stating that the core beliefs in Christianity date back to the beginning of time in the Bible. Christianity might have only started 1700 years ago with Constantine, but the beliefs started long before then. Adam, Eve, Noah, Moses, and others all believed in a singular God and had a relationship with that God. This means that the concept of the singular all powerful God is a lot older than 2600 years like you are trying to claim.

"The Covenant, Ark of the Covenant? Ding ding ding? The Commandments, ALL of them, as written in the Code of Hammurabi" Ever hear of the Mosaic Laws? There are 611 laws in it. Regardless of which one you look at, Mosaic Law or Code of Hammurabi, they are obsolete once Jesus resurrected from the grave paying the ultimate price for our sins.

The fact still remains that you have been wrong since your first comment in this thread with "Mind you, that "all powerful creator" wasn't even recognized as that till 2600 years ago by the people that created him." The singular all powerful Creator was known and accepted at the time of Adam and Eve, roughly 6,000 years before your claim.
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Mosaich*
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"did not read" If you didn't read it, then what is with the second comment?

"psst, hey moron, READ A GODSDAMNED BOOK." God doesn't like it when you use his name in vein.

"Like seriously, do you always do that? Take what someone else says, retrofit it to your bogus NON-Biblical passages (none of your bull is in actual scripture), then flip it back as a question to the person who said it first while calling them uninformed about the very information you borrowed from them? " Seriously? Everything I have stated is Biblical. Where is the Code of Hammurabi mentioned in the Bible? Oh wait it isn't. However the Laws of Moses, or the Mosaic Laws, are. So what exactly have I stated isn't Biblical? What words have I been putting into Jesus's mouth? Considering you are the one that refuses to answer these questions, it is you that that is twisting everything I am saying and spouting your own non-biblical trash. You want me to stop, then stop commenting and spewing your own lies.

The term Christian may only be 1700 years old, but the core beliefs that Jesus taught us were practiced since the beginning with Adam and Eve. This means the All Powerful Creator was recognized in the very beginning. If this is false, prove it. You saying it is false isn't proof of anything.
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I am not the one using the Lord's name in vein when talking to people. Prove how anything I have said is wrong and I will leave you alone.
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I already had.
You took what I said about older religions and inserted 2017yo christianity in place. Your lack of logic and reasoning is only exceeded by your (not deliberate?) obtuseness.
From Ankhs to Zoroathustra, if you still choose to feign ignorance, that's on you. It merely shows how godadamned idiotic you are.

And you've yet to quote quote Scripture quotes.

Carry on, however, it pleases me.
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No you have not stated how I am wrong with any proof. I corrected your misconception that the singular all powerful God was 1- created and 2- concept only being around 2,600 years.

I could quote all of Genesis to show the personal relationship Adam, Eve, and Noah had, but there are not enough characters here to allow me to do that.

Show some intelligence in your comments, and stop using the Lord's name in vain, then maybe things will go better for you.
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And every comment you make like this only proves me right. Thanks for admitting you have been wrong this entire time.
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You're really not that go***amned good at this, are you?

Read some history. Not only might you learn something, you may actually STRENGTHEN your thesis. Bu then again, why risk it with a small weak mind like yours?

Ahura Mazda, the first monotheistic God, from the the world's second oldest country. And there ain't a go***amned thing you can do about that.
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With you comstantly using the Lord's name in vain, why should I consider anything of what you say.

Christianity, by name, may only be +1700 years, but the principles and God it worships predates that of Ahura Mazda. It isn't me that needs to do a history lesson, but you. Do you not know that There were at least 8, if not 13, different religions emerged after Abraham, each coming from each one of his sons. All that predates Christianity (by names sake only). Jesus was a Jew, but taught others about having a personal relationship with God, the God mentioned in Genesis, which predates Ahura Mazda. This same God was known and worshiped by many for thousands of years before Ahura Mazda. Regardless of what you think you know, a singular all powerful God was known and worshiped from the beginning, and is the same God Christians worship. Don't tell me I need to study up on history, when it is you that needs to be the one who studies both history and religion.
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Y'eshua > Joshua > Jesus*
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FYI- Christianity didn't officially start until around 300AD. Jesus, Peter, Paul, and the others were Jews. So it isn't 2017 years old. And like I keep telling you, the core beliefs, which include the singular all powerful God, started with Adam and Eve.
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Maybe they became the Chosen because they recognized the Creator. And who birthed this "tribal god"? Your Creator is ETERNAL, meaning no beginning (no birth) and no end (no death).
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