Creepy Condescending Wonka

This question can work both ways,

How does nothing explode? How does nothing become something? It defies the laws of physics, which your Creator created. He didn't come out of nowhere, He's ALWAYS existed, meaning no beginning and no end = ETERNAL. Makes more sense than something from nothing (Big Bang religion)

You're doing that every night. You're your own magical man when dreaming. You create a whole world out of nothing and have an experience of living in it. And it certainly just happens without any kind of bang or huff or a puff. :)

Who tells you that the "creator" is a magical man???

Well he's normally depicted as a man with a beard, so thus he's magical man who came out of nowhere.

Also https://i.imgflip.com/1na4ub.gif

Hmmm, I don't get it, but I do get your user name...

LOL, I thought you were telling me to jump into the shark's mouth! Thanks, favor returned!

And stiiiiiiiiiill no upvote from the all wise OP who speaketh in hard core facts about invisible eternal magicians that no one has heard from since Mohammed flew away 1400 years ago but can't figure out what the green upvote thingy means.

Hey, I only replied to someone else's meme and suddenly I'm the OP? BTW, how am I supposed to figure out who gave me upvotes? And, I just really started getting into making memes, not computer/tech savvy, kinda old, so cut me a freakin' break! Did you want an upvote honey? I don't tend to hand them out like candy--you gotta earn it.

OP means Original Poster. You did post the meme that is at the top of this page so that makes you the OP.

It is common courtesy to upvote those that you're reply to it is just about being polite here, not something anyone had to explicitly earn.

I know that OP is original poster, but my meme was a reply to another meme. I didn't know it would become an original post on it's own, and didn't know the etiquette regarding upvotes. Thanks for letting me know.

If you submit it then it gets featured publicly on this site under your name, otherwise it remains private and only accessible to those you explicitly share it with.

Welcome to the imgflip.

Thanks for explaining that for me.
And yes, I did upvote your comments.

Thanks :)

SERIOUSLY? You just used my meme to reply to my meme.

Oh, come on, my comment wasn't even up long enough for you to read it! LOL! Don't worry, keep reading it and it will make sense after awhile.

Relax, dear. I only replied to you with that meme as a joke because of your reply to IsayIsay when he replied to you with that meme. LOL

LMBO! Sorry about being defensive. This is the first time I've gotten this much of a reaction from a meme, so I'm a little discombobulated. I promise, I have a great sense of humor (though you might not be able to tell at the moment)!

For the record, when I said "relax dear" I was doing so with a pleasant smile on my face. Have fun. ttyL

I understand. I'm writing all of these comments laughing at the same time, so I am having fun. Something I've learned about this experience, is people get triggered when you mention God (or maybe I should use PC terms like, "mentioning God invites a lively discussion"). Wow! LOL

HA!

yes, because what I posted is entirely logical. We're only dreaming that we're bodies here in this world, so even when you think you're awake and reading this, it is still a dream. Your dreams at night are basically dreams within a dream. This world is not our ultimate reality and will be all gone once we actually wake up, so it is really nothingness.

This world is nothing but beyond this world there lies reality. Our true self is spirit all together as one. We fell asleep and had a dream that we're in this universe. This is no different from the dreams that you've at night. Although there is only one dream there are countless figures in the dream that seems to exists in a world that is very real.

But it is entirely illogical. If there is really nothing, how can you even exist in order to dream that you have a body? Something cannot come from nothing. It doesn't make sense. The Creator would want everything to be pretty simple--what you see is what you get--so you can figure out how to properly live in the creation. Sometimes the Hand of Providence will come in to nudge you in the right direction. Satan wants to confuse, so he has you thinking you are just a dream within a dream (who is the dreamer?) and yet nothing at the same time. That's kind of what the big bang theory is all about, making you feel tiny, worthless, nothing. Pretty depressing right? Makes you want to think the world isn't real, right? Because it hurts to think that we are nothing. Plus, I think people are too scared to admit that if there is one true God, we're in seriously deep sh*t for how badly we've all been sinning and might actually have to own up to it, apologize to God and stop sinning so we don't get punished for all eternity along with Satan and his demons. It is a scary thought, and I had it myself when I came to this realization. I didn't want to admit that I was not as good of a person as I thought I was. But, we are real, God is real and loves us. Sometimes, even though you love your children, you have to punish them when they don't obey the rules in order to make sure they don't end up in serious trouble. That's why you have rules in the first place.

Our true self is Spirit safe in Heaven. This world is but only a dream of exile. God did not create this world, we did while dreaming which explains why it is such a mess. This is just like the dreams you've at night.

God does not punish us at all, which is what the Tale of the Prodigal Son is really about.

See also my reply to j_n0yb in this thread.

"God does not punish us at all, which is what the Tale of the Prodigal Son is really about"

I get what you are saying about this story. It represents God's children (all of us) wandering away and squandering our lives and sinning, only to come back humbled because we lost everything, and our Father rejoices upon our return and has a feast to celebrate. Those children who stayed with the Father the whole time and did not wander are irked by this. But our Father reminds them that even after everything the wandering children did, in the end they returned to their Father. And Father is always willing to forgive if you just humble yourself and ask for forgiveness.

When I say you are punished for sinning, what I mean is that if you follow God's path, the way Jesus explained, the Hand of God is upon you to protect you and bless you. But if you sin, the Hand of God is taken away and you are open to attack and oppression from demons (taking the form of economic, family, personal, health, etc., troubles). You get God's protection back again once you realize your sin, repent and confess it to Jesus and ask forgiveness. God's protection and blessings are the reward for your repentance and return to His ways.

Something I made a few weeks back.

Yes, God does not punish at all it, is us that chose pain and suffering when we erred.

So when ever we are making a choice we're effectively choosing between God or pain, and since we don't always know what He wants of us, it is better to let Him decide for you in all things always. :)

"If there is really nothing, how can you even exist in order to dream that you have a body? Something cannot come from nothing. It doesn't make sense."

Exactly, as does your concept of God.

Further, if this concept existence of this almighty creator has any validity, you, in comparison, are tiny and worthless in comparison. That's kinda what makes it God.

Just because we are tiny and worthless in comparison to God doesn't mean He doesn't exist. Our minds are too puny to wrap around the concept of eternal, which is why you frustrate yourself trying to figure out how and when God came into existence. Since you can't grasp that He has always existed and therefore has no beginning, you figure He doesn't exist. The fact that he loves us tiny, worthless beings is actually what gives us the desire to strive to please Him. When you please Him, you are blessed (rewarded). If you displease Him, you are cursed (punished).

The bodies which we mistakenly believe to be ourselves are indeed nothing to God, but our true self as
Spirit is everything to Him. We're his Treasure as it says in "Tale of the Prodigal Son".

If said creator has always existed, then what's up with "In the beginning..."?

God exists outside of our known space and time, meaning our time does not apply to Him. In the beginning is in reference to the beginning of our time and space, not His. Anyone with basic knowledge of Christianity and has done even just a little bit of research from credible historical and religious scholars would know and understand this basic concept.

"From the very beginning the Word was with God."

There's that pesky "beginning" again; this time in the Gospel of John.

No scholars; no analysis. Just direct quotes from the source material. Do you mean to tell me that two Biblical authors were wrong?

And once again, you misconstrude what the beginning is. There is no beginning or end of God. The beginning in Genesis and in John is reference to the beginning of our universe. God exists outside of our time and space, so therefore our beginning is not His beginning. What is it you are failing to grasp here?

It doesn't state that.

Think about it this way. Had it been due to a singularity expanding rapidly like the majority of big bang scientists state, is the singularity inside our universe or outside our universe?

Or a simplier method. You have the task of building a 2ft x 2ft box. Are you building this box while inside of it or outside of it? Same princle. If the universe does not yet exist, whatever created it has to exist outside of the universe. Even with big bang, outside of the sigularity was supposedly absolutely nothing, no space or anything. It was a complete vacuum. Where this singularity supposedly existed at was also considered a place where time did not exist. So this singularity existed outside of our space and time. So God and the singularity are interchangeable.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. This is the point in time in which our universe was created. If our universe had not yet existed, then it is quite obvious that for God to be able to create it, he would have to exist outside of it. So yes it does say it, if you know what you are reading.

(shhhh, you're not supposed to notice the very first line in the Bible)

I guess you don't know the meaning of ALWAYS, so I'll school you. It means no beginning, no end = ETERNAL.

But...there must have always been a beginning to something.
But since I'm Agnostic, we both know we can't prove anything without proper evidence~ x3

"I will always love hamburgers"
"I will treasure this forever"
"Eternally yours"

Um, Google if your dictionary is out of order?