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Yes i would. Those are caused by genetic defects, they are not an entirely different gender.

well those people actually live, exist and still don't fit into one of two genders. Calling it a defect will not change that.

Plus something is a "defect" only regarding to a rule. Who sets it? What percentage of the population do you need to see this "defect" as an actual existing thing who is entitled to its own category?

A hermaphrodite for example has sexual parts from both male and female gender but is not a gender on its own. A genetic mutation is not a gender its just an error in the genetic code. Those cases are rare and they are in their own catagory but not an entirely different gender.

Isn't evolution a history of genetic mutations? I'm asking you again, on what basis do you claim it's an "error"? Why is your mainstream genetic mutation correct while others are errors?

PLus hermaphrodites aren't just male-and-female. Sometimes they are none of them, undetermined. Or if the criterion of resembling male and female anatomy is valid, then women are just men with a very small p**is. Did you know you couldn't anatomically tell the difference between a male and a female before 12 weeks in utero? that p**is and va**na are the same that evolved differently?

On the basis of genetics, common sense and the laws of nature. Mutations are not beneficial to humans. Cancerous tumors are a mutation, Conjoined twins are a mutation someone born with an extra limb is a mutation they are all a genetic errors. Some happen during the process of copying the genetic code at birth and some happen due to exposure to environmental hazards like radiation, chemicals etc. Anytime the genetic code is damaged or duplicated incorrectly its a genetic defect/ mutation. There are alot of hereditary diseases due to genetic defects. A woman is not a man with a small p**is that is ridiculous and contrary to reality. Of course you cant tell the gender at that point beacuse its still in the very early stages of its development. People like you dont seek the truth but rather seek to distort it. This conversation is redundant.

Nicely stated

Why would I try to distort truth? I'm seeking it like the rest of us, we only disagree and that's fine. Talking and confronting opinions can help us make some progress.

"Common sense" is what led people think that black folks weren't humans, and the "laws of nature" well, what are you exactly talking about? what are they, can you give me the URL?

Funny you mention an extra limb as genetic error. Legs were a genetic mutation that happened to some fish, I guess it was an error until bipeds ruled the world?

This conversation is redundant only because you won't answer this simple question: on what basis you says that a mutation is an error while another (like opposable thumbs for instance) isn't?

Haha Are you seriously trying to pass off common sense as a bad thing! That's your problem right there. You just keep getting more and more off topic. Show me a case where someone has fully functioning extra limbs and has passed it down to its children without any problems. I bet you cant because the extra limbs are always deformed and useless. Reason for that is because its a genetic defect,a bad mutation that doesnt benefit the person at all. Scientific facts are observable unlike your crazy theorys about hermaphrodites being a 3rd gender. Which is unscientific and you failed to make the connection.

Hi,

I'm not saying there's a third gender (and btw, I agree with WrenTheGrey but i'm not gonna fiddle about the word "gender"). I'm just saying it's a little more complicated than "there's 2" or "there's 3"

About common sense: "Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things that are shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without need for debate"

I'm not saying common sense is bad. Just that while it might be very useful in everyday life, it's not really good with big questions which might need to go over your own social conditionning...

About the extra limb, look at this=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_fish. I guess it was pretty weird to the new fish on the block with his new legs. Others might have said it's a bad mutation....

i'm just saying you fail to give me solid ground that such and such a mutation is "good"/"bad" or 'beneficial" since we only know after the fact (survival)...

It is common sense that there are only 2 genders because Its basic knowledge that everyone knows. You are not making much sense, at first you were implying that hermaphrodites are an entirely different gender due to some evolutionary process but now you say they are not. You are being confusing. Seems like you are backpedaling.

I never said or implied hermaphrodites were a different gender. I said that some cases (as hermaphrodites for instance, but there are other intersex cases) show that the assertion "there are only 2 genders" is wrong.

I know that common sense says that there are 2, well distinct, genders, but facts show the contrary...

I’d rather be insane than agree with this.

3 sexes, Intersex, Female, & Male. Genders: infinite because it doesn’t exist, it was created by society. Social construct just like race, go to europe- nobody is black or white they’re german, Irish, Russian, Italian, polish, etc. black or white doesn’t matter

Omg no.
Gender is a psychological construct, sex is your naughty bits.
This argument has been done to death.

What do you mean gender is psychological construct? Are you saying gender is based on human feelings and behaviour?

Well duh. Did you fail psych 1000?

So you dont think the gender of human being is determined at conception/ fertilization?

Do you not know the difference between sex and gender, dude? Or are you just making time for me cuz I'm so pretty?

Enlighten me, whats the differents?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

I have the read the links you posted and i have concluded that the majority of what you sent me is stupid, insane, unscientific and contrary to reality. There is no difference between sex and gender because they are the same thing. Gender is what you are born with ( either male or female) and all this gender identities are a load of crap. And intersexuals like hermaphrodites are not a separate gender on their own but they are also not male or female either due to genetic defects. Since i am unable to reply to your other comment ( assuming that you blocked me or something) i will have to say here that you did imply that hermaphrodites were a different gender at the beginning of the comments but now you are saying they are not but somehow you still claim there are more than 2 genders. You do not make any sense. You may be comfortable in your delusional lies but i most definitely will not be deceived by you or any other lunatic that believes this crap. Those that deliberately reject basic knowledge and reality have serious issues. If this is the type of lies being taught in schools then academia is corrupt. Also wikipedia is not credible.

blocking is above my imgflip paygrade, maybe there's just a limit to the number of comments you can pile up... I also really have no interest in lying to you. I like this topic that's all...

I'm really just trying to say that reality is just more complicated than your initial statement.

So beside common sense and opinions, and if the academia and wikipedia are corrupt or not credible, what authority would you trust or at least be open to discussion with?

Observable scientific evidence is all i will rely on. There is no observable scientific evidence to show that there are more than 2 genders in any situation. I speculate that what has caused this confusion about gender is the gay/transgender community. They started this gender identity delusion with the intent to normalize transgenderism and it seems their propaganda is working its way into academia. I disagree with you and i guess we can just agree to disagree.