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A little outdated,that's quite a while before he left office.His numbers still got better after this.
Here's an upvote!!
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Obama's campaign has brought to America:

1. 10 Trillion dollars added to America's debt .
2. The creation of ISIS (by pulling our soldiers out of the midlle east, which produced a power vacuum, which ISIS filled that power vacuum).
3. Millions of people on food stamps and in poverty.

Obama has done very few things that were beneficial in his career, and though Trump is by far not my favorite president, I'm still glad that Obama is out of the Oval Office.
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Compare it to Bush's presidency. Then compare the first 100 days of Trump and Obama.
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What do you want me to compare? The fact that Obama put more people on food stamps, the fact that Obama added more debt than all of the other presidents combined, or the fact that more people are Jobless (before you say unemployment went down during Obama, remember they're counting the number of jobs people had, and people were working several jobs at once under Obama becuase of what the ACA did to businesses, Which made it harder for people to be able to work full time jobs in small businesses, so they had to get multiple part time jobs, thus increasing the number of jobs, but not the number of people working)
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The number of people working is not under Obama's control, rather, it is the people's responsibility. Think of it like this: If I give a homeless person some money, it is his choice whether to use it on something he needs like food or something wasteful like cigarettes. Obama also had to clean up the mess left behind by the less-than-successful Bush Administration by cutting down almost two-thirds of the Bush deficit.

Oh yeah, and he caught Bin laden.

And by the way, I'm not saying Obama was an outstanding president. He fell short on a lot of promises he made. But if I were to rate him: 7/10
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You are correct. Obama is not in control of every financial occurrence. He didn't cause all of the problems. However, his Obama Care policy did some pretty major destruction to small businesses, and made a lot of people not able to work full time jobs. This he was responsible for.

Obama did catch Osama, but Bush got Hussain. And the plan to get Osama was initiated in the Bush campaign
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I agree. However I must argue that the mere fact that over 20 million Americans could lose healthcare coverage under the American Health Care Act (AHCA) is frightening, and I think that makes Obamacare a better option, right away. (This is turning out to be an interesting debate!)
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I don't like the AHCA either. However, the Obama care plan made healthcare unbelievably expensive for a lot of people. Also, Obama Care was forced onto people. Both of them (in my opinion) are terrible options. People need affordable health insurance, but they need the choice on what they buy, not having it forced upon them. My mom's parents were being charged $1500 a month because of Obama Care. However, 20,000,000 people without healthcare is also terrifying. (There's still the chance that a lot of those people are simply people who denied the desire to have healthcare). I don't know much about Trump's healthcare plan, but I do know Obama's health care, and it was not beneficial for the people who were paying twice as much as they were before hand without Obama Care.

I don't like Trump, but I don't like Obama's policies. (I have to admit though, as far as personality goes, Obama is so much better than Trump)

I enjoyed having this debate. A debate where we said what we believed and supported it... And we're polite about it. I appreciated having this debate with you. Have a good day, and good luck on your Meming. This was a very fun conversation :)
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Good luck to you too. Its nice to settle our differences once in a while politely instead of raging and screaming insults to each other, as it happens so much here on imgflip. Nice talking to you. Happy memeing!
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No.

Jobs added mean anything to you? Job growth is job growth, no matter how you attempt to skew that definition.
When 23 mill lose their ACA, have fun.
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You suggest we let our own citizens starve?

W Bush took out full page ads in major newspapers telling people that even some of the employed may qualify for food stamps. This was BEFORE the recession caused by his expensive failed policies began.
You really don't recall this?
Then maybe retelling it should be left to those that do?
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And I'm not taking in that 'Obama-ISIS' bullsh*t either.
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He didn't do it on purpose, he did it with good intent. He wanted to send American troops back to their families (a good thing). However, the materials left behind were grabbed by ISIS, and they became a powerful militia.
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We need to be careful about where our equipment is ending up and try not to be driven by the crave of money.
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Absolutely. We can't just be giving out guns. However, we don't just give out guns. People have to meet certain requirements. People get guns in black markets, and other countries. These our government can't control. We don't just give guns out, or sell them to people who shouldn't have them, as far as the sellers are aware (at least legal sellers don't).

If we disagree, we disagree, but that's okay. I was looking at your other memes, and I upvoted some of them, because they were hillarious. I can appreciate you as a person, and as a memer, even if we don't get along :)
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Thanks man (or woman, sorry!) Appreciate it! I don't tend to get positive responses when I place my argument. Good talk. Glad we could work it out.
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I understand, but then did Obama tell our troops to leave the equipment behind? Also, that's not the only supply of weapons they have...

"Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January, arms experts said that the ammunition used was almost certainly smuggled in from the Balkans, which was left awash with arms following the 1991-1995 war in the former Yugoslavia."

"The suburb of Molenbeek, in Brussels – home to some of the suspected attackers last Friday - has been identified as a “breeding ground” for terrorism in western Europe. An automatic firearm can allegedly be bought in the area for 500-1,000 euros.".

"As for the Middle East, a study by the Conflict Armament Research Group, published last year, showed the militant group used ammunition manufactured mostly in America, China and Russia."

"Isis took possession of large amounts of kit - including tanks, rocket launchers and howitzers – when it seized Government-held territory in Iraq in 2014. It is known to have smuggled in arms from places such Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria and Eastern Europe." -The Independent
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you are correct. Obama did not start ISIS on his own. However, his action was a MAJOR part in the formation of ISIS.
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You should study more. ISIS was formed by the former Baathists that Bush disbanded with no plan to make sure they were removed as a threat. It was that ignorance (and it was ignorance, not stupidity) that allowed them to form, but it was the Shite majority rule in Baghdad ignoring or even purposely shunning the Sunni minority in the central part of the country to welcome ISIS and even help them. Now tell me how Obama was responsible again.
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are you saying that Bush's ignorance led to the creation of ISIS? If we're going to discuss ignorance, let's focus on the fact that Obama planned on giving Iran over a billion dollars. We are in debt, and he's giving a whole bunch of money to a country that hates us. Also, Bush (allegedly) disbanded the Iraqi army, and they got together to form ISIS. If ISIS is the leftovers of a problem that Bush got rid of, is it really his fault (to an extent, yes. He should have taken care of the ISIS founders as well)? He got rid of the bigger problem, and he left office before the left-overs could get cleaned up. ISIS has flourished under Obama. Though not entirely his fault (since he doesn't have control over the Middle East), Obama could have done more to stop ISIS. Even Donald Trump has done something about ISIS. He dropped the MOAB on ISIS caves, which I'm not sure, but I heard it's the largest bomb dropped other then the nukes. However, I understand what you're saying, and I appreciate your part in this conversation :)

P.S. I also have enjoyed a lot of your memes :)
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Again, no.

That 1 bill is Iran's money, assets in US banks frozen during the hostage crisis - an illegal manuever on our part, btw. Not just gov't and officials, but ordinary private citizens. Allowing people to retrieve their own money after nearly 4 decades is not aid.

Yeah, bombing that airport in Syria and the MOAB in Afganistan really changed things. *rolls eyes*
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Obama did not invade Iraq, Bush did and what we now know was false pretenses. First it was they helped the terrorists that attacked us which if you knew Saddam at all was not the case. He feared Muslim terrorist groups as a threat to his power and rightly so.

Then it was weapons of mass destruction! We couldn't wait because he was trying to build a bomb and drop it on us! Except they knew he wasn't and when their so call evidence was outed as fake, they outed a working CIA field agent in retaliation. You know...treason.

Then it became about bringing democracy to the region. A region that does not want democracy. But Bush invaded anyway and chaos has reigned ever since. Blaming the next president for that mess is rewriting history especially blaming Obama for the explosion in debt as the wars were never paid for and the richest among us got tax breaks.

And Obama did nothing? You now how many drone strikes he authorized? And Trump drops one big bomb and you wet your pants. ISIS in Afghanistan is weak and even the Taliban is hunting them. We did the Taliban a favor and they are back stronger as ever because instead of completing the war in Afghanistan, we suddenly shifted our forces to Iraq because as Chaney said there was nothing good left to bomb.

Thanks for the compliment on the memes.
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However, our soldiers should have stayed in the Middle East. We had un-finished business
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You do know that it was President Bush that signed the agreement to remove all of our troopers from Iraq right? Obama was still in the Senate at the time.
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/01/congress.iraq/index.html?_s=PM:POLITICS
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When I clicked on the link, it didn't work properly. It takes you to a list of links. Click on the second one (if your internet pulls up the same sources as mine...)

My device is stupid, and doesn't work properly, so I'm sorry if I cause any inconvenience :(
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The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011. It's just a fact.
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We had business that should have been approached completely differently.
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True, but There are not very many good ways to invade a country that uses horrific gorilla warfare tactics
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We invade a country for bogus reasons, kill up to 2 million, and they're the ones using horrific tactics?
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No.
Arms for ISIL paid for by Saudi Arabia, delivered by Turkey.
Neither was of the no fly list thingy though, and oversight by Capt Twitter Tears, yes?
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1. Inherited 2 unpaid for wars. 1 trill each.
The remainder of TARP
Congress controls the budget, and thus spending, and thus the deficit. NOT the president. Mind you, the do nothing Congress did little to go along with Obama's plans. Mission accomplished, Repubs?
2. Yes, by eliminating the top brass of Al Queda and thus crippling it, ISIL stepped into that vacuum.
Generals and soldiers left over by Bush's dismatling of Iraq's army suppled the ranks.
3. GWBush's Great Recession ring any bells? Obama prevented another Great Depression, REMEMBER?

Obama served the max 2 terms. He was out of Office regardless of who became the next Pres.
What he did was to benefit US, not himself, so you are correct about that. Kudos.
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No no no! You blame Obama for the mess that was left for him like the two unpaid for wars ballooning the deficit and then give credit to Trump for inheriting an America that the Republicans did everything in their power to stop. Now please rewrite your history!
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Talking to me? I voted Obama. You got me all wrong man.
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I did too. I was making fun of the blame Obama crowd.
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