Pro choice

I assume you would accept science's explanation of the facts.

There is an official scientific definition of LIFE. It is why viruses are NOT classified as life. You can find this definition in EVERY high school and college level biology textbook. At conception, the zygote meets ALL the qualifications to be defined as LIFE.

The zygote possesses 46 HUMAN chromosomes. Chimpanzees have 46 chromosomes, but they are not HUMAN. A genetic profile of the zygote would be classified as HUMAN.

Finally, there is a differentiation in cells from the mother. There is a clearly separate genetic profile in the cells of the zygote from the mother's cells. Therefore, it is NOT the mother's boedy, but a SEPARATE HUMAN LIFE.

I will make the following concession: birth control pills prevent implantation, so a strict definition of life beginning at conception would cause these medications to be classified as abortion drugs, and I'm not ready to do that. But once implantation takes place, I think the embryo should be allowed to develop.

You don't have to be religious to believe that abortion is murder.

If it cannot survive out of the womb, on it's own, it is not murder, it is a parasite(an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense). You have every right to choose not to abort and I as a pro choice person fight for your right to choose too but, for you to think that abortions just started with roe v. wade is just silly. All Roe v. Wade did was make it safer, THAT IS IT!!! Midwifes have been mixing abortives since before Plato. So your issue is that you find safe clean abortions distasteful, fine then don't have one. A zygote has no chance of surviving out of the womb. So why do you keep trying to force your BELIEFS down every woman's Va**na. As for your science without the woman's body there is no baby without a womb to grow, no baby, as we don't abort late trimester pregnancies without serious life threatening reasons or due to the baby's death in utero . Hey you want every sperm to make it whatever but you do not get to choose for me just for you. That is why I am Pro Choice because I do not want to choose for you it is none of my business, it is your choice, it is your body not mine. Yet Pro Life people seem to think because they don't like abortion that should give them the RIGHT to force their OPINION up my Va**na. I do not care if you are religious it is not my business You trying to decide for me what I can do with my Life with no real long term thoughts on how am I going to house, clothe, support a child. This is a life changing occurrence not to be taken lightly or forced on a person. Yet scared girls bury, or toss it in the garbage! living babies everyday because they didn't know any better, is that what you want? Every abortion to be born and tossed in garbage cans because the woman didn't want or could not keep it?? Start thinking about the long term and not just the 9 months! In this country we have freedom of choice but now you seem to want to amend that to say unless you're a woman....How far back do you want to push our rights? Planning to try and take away our right to vote too? You may Hate Roe V. Wade for what it is but I also see it as a step forward for females rights. We are not forcing abortions down women's throats no one has to have one. That is choice, that is America!

You were once a parasite, too. You were no less a HUMAN LIFE. A PERSON. That it can't survive on its own (now, science is advancing, after all) is irrelevant. That is perhaps the weakest argument put forth in favor of abortions.

I did not state BELIEFS. I stated scientific FACTS. That they go against what you WANT doesn't change that.

What have you become? What would you have been if you'd been aborted? What could those people who were aborted have become?

Murder is murder, whether the child is 10, 5, newborn, or still in the womb. You are destroying a HUMAN LIFE. You CANNOT deny that.

We are all parasites period, whether we are in the womb or the entire human race. We are parasites on the earth and you can tell that by the way we treat this planet. You seem to think that this little planet can hold infinite amounts of people, it cannot especially the way we treat it. If you want to save the children of this world I recommend starting with the planet you live on.
In your original diatribe you used the words ‘I think’ which are your personal beliefs. The word belief does not necessarily mean God. You also made a statement that 'There is an official scientific definition of LIFE.' Hmmm I call Bullshit on that too.
“The definition of life is controversial. The current definition is that organisms maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, and reproduce. However, many other biological definitions have been proposed, and there are some borderline cases, such as viruses. Throughout history, there have been many attempts to define what is meant by "life" and many theories on the properties and emergence of living things, such as materialism, the belief that everything is made out of matter and that life is merely a complex form of it; hylomorphism, the belief that all things are a combination of matter and form, and the form of a living thing is its soul; spontaneous generation, the belief that life repeatedly emerges from non-life; and vitalism, a now largely discredited hypothesis that living organisms possess a "life force" or "vital spark". Modern definitions are more complex, with input from a diversity of scientific disciplines. Biophysicists have proposed many definitions based on chemical systems; there are also some living systems theories, such as the Gaia hypothesis, the idea that the Earth itself is alive. Another theory is that life is the property of ecological systems, and yet another is elaborated in complex systems biology, a branch or subfield of mathematical biology. Abiogenesis describes the natural process of life arising from non-living matter, such as simple organic compounds. Properties common to all organisms include the need for certain core chemical elements to sustain biochemical functions.” Wikipedia see I can look stuff up too

So even in the scientific community there is room for disagreement.

Second your premises that all Zygotes can “feel” is a bold face LIE and I am so sick of it!
“Week 5
• Week 5 is the start of the "embryonic period." This is when all the baby's major systems and structures develop.
• The embryo's cells multiply and start to take on specific functions. This is called differentiation.
• Blood cells, kidney cells, and nerve cells all develop.
• The embryo grows rapidly, and the baby's external features begin to form.
• Your baby's brain, spinal cord, and heart begin to develop.
• Baby's gastrointestinal tract starts to form.
• It is during this time in the first trimester that the baby is most at risk for damage from things that may cause birth defects. This includes certain medicines, illegal drug use, heavy alcohol use, infections such as rubella, and other factors.” medlineplus.gov
Tell me before a Zygote has a Brain how does it Feel? Before nerve cells develop how does it feel things??? You want facts here they are. Not to mention they are just forming right now they aren’t even hooked up to each other yet that comes later and still at any point the females body can reject it and it then is a miscarriage which some men want to criminalize that too.
As for your other question what if I had been aborted.... well I would be nothing as I would not exist. Not really a difficult thing to wrap ones brain around. I realize you think it is a big world shaking question ‘what if you had never been born’ well here is your answer the world would still be spinning It was fine before me it will be fine after I die and if I had never been it would still keep on spinning. I do not have such a grandiose view of my existence that without me in the world, life as we know it would change or end, I am not so self absorbed to think that way.

You say murder is murder no matter what! Hmm but is it murder if you kill in self defense? Yes but, the law says it is ok, but it is murder right so then should the person who defends their family or themselves be convicted of murder and jailed? How about solders they have to kill for their government all the time should we lock them up to I mean murder is murder right. Wait what about accidents if a child runs into the street and I hit them I am in your eyes a murderer. See things are not always so cut and dried. And this statement of murder is murder is just another small minded way to shock people who can’t think for themselves into following you. I’ve seen man’s inhumanity to man up close and personal, I have no issues thinking for myself, choosing my own path, and helping others find their own way.
Listen I am not going to go back and forth with you on this because I believe you have the right to CHOOSE for yourself your own path. Do you get it? that is what PRO CHOICE means, you do not have to be pro abortion to be pro choice….It means you simple believe that a woman has the right to own her own body, not the government not her husband, not her rapist, not her parents, Not the church. I, as a woman, own my body and all the wonders it can do are mine period.
I respect your right to do what you want with your body. It is none of my business what another person does with their body. But in the same vein it is none of your business what I do with my body and it sure as heck is not the government business to demand I make babies for them.
P.S. Oh and I realize you think you are funny for criticizing my paragraph structure but since I can’t see it as I am working in a ½ inch box, it’s just a bit petty FYI. I only see the whole thing once it is posted so sorry it bugs you not much I can do about it.

Okay, obviously you're the one who is full of shit, trying to say I said stuff I never did. You are not up to my intellectual standard, and any further discussion with you would be pointless.

Yeah Ok That's the reason you TROLL you have been reported.

Reported for what? Well, guess what? Still here! The mods don't think I've violated the TOS. But, by all means, keep bugging them over nothing and see what it gets you.

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I don't know what that means, and I'm not going to bother to look it up, unless you can accurately define a "strawman argument".

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