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0 ups, 3y,
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That’s bs
1 up, 3y,
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You seem pretty well sold - on a syncretic amalgam of stories, lifted off of Dionysus/Bacchus, Mithras, and various Mystery Schools. December 25 is the day of the all conquering Sun (Son), the Day of Sol Invictus aka Mithras. After the shortest day of the year, on December 21st, the Winter Solstice - the Sun 'dwells in the underworld' for the three darkest days of Winter. On the 25th - the Sun 're-emerges from the underworld' and the days grow consistently longer, until June 21st, the Summer Solstice. Hence, the Sun (Son) conquers death symbolically, and brings the bounty of Spring and Summer and provides us all the eternal cycles of life on Earth.

Don't look too closely at all of those re-edited and selected 'Canon' manuscripts and Gospels from the Council of Nicea... You may realize that the Church conquered Pagan religions, by adapting them and the official narrative of the life of Jesus, into a hybrid story. For instance, unlikely that anyone out traveling in December, was very wise. More likely - the actual timeframe of the Gospels, around Jesus birth, would be closer to the Spring (equinox), when Easter is celebrated - a typical time of Pagan celebration, just as the Winter Solstice has long been. The task of the Sages was to take existing times of feast and observance, and then turn them into Holy Days for the new religion.

Emperor Constantine was a Mithras/Sol Invictus Guy... He probably thought that HE WAS the diety. To him Jesus would just have been another incarnation of himself, conceptually. And that is how Christians went from being a persecuted Roman minority, to the persecuting Roman majority. Hence - the Pope's hat - is called a Mitre... Named in the days of Mithras.
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“ lifted off of Dionysus/Bacchus, Mithras, and various Mystery Schools” That is objectively false.
“ December 25 is the day of the all conquering Sun (Son), the Day of Sol Invictus aka Mithras.” Except for the fact that it isn’t.
“ Gospels from the Council of Nicea” They were written over 250 years before then.
“ adapting them and the official narrative of the life of Jesus” Time for some more pseudohistory.
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Do you ALWAYS selectively edit to distort and misquote? "...re-edited and selected 'Canon' manuscripts and Gospels from the Council of Nicea..." is the actual quote and context - and it's an absolutely true and verifiable fact - unlike all of the bullshit (aka "pseudohistory") that you claim to be "fact", in your post.

That's why there are a whole series of "Apocryphal" texts - like the "Gospel of the Youth and Infancy of Jesus" etc. Those were popular testimonies, just like the other Gospels - that were rejected by the Church, as it merged with the Roman Empire, because it didn't comport with their consensus view of Jesus.

And unless you have the original manuscripts to compare with - you don't know what was edited or re-written and how. The Council of Nicea then began a period of the destruction of "heretical" texts, and notions about Jesus, prevalent in the societies of the Ancient World, and around the Mediterranean region. The "Arian Heresy" had a commonly held, alternative view of Jesus. I realize that this may conflict with your personal faith - but that is a question of BELIEF - not verifiable evidence. The most that you can do, is point to what sources were allowed to survive the period - and those were the ones that agreed with the Doctrine of the Church. And we know that the opposing theoreticians have been put to the sword, or forced to recant under torture, and their ideas destroyed, at several times throughout history. "The Albingensian Crusade" was a much more recent example. And it that case, the reported edict from the Church, was "Kill them all, God will know his own".

Turning water into wine - was a story first told of Bacchus. Same with a "virgin birth" - which Hebrew and Aramaic scholars argue is a mistranslation, of what that word meant, at the time.

But you go ahead and believe whatever makes you feel best.

Christmas is relatively modern invention - which emerged as a competitor to "Saturnalia", which was a popular celebration in Europe, for a long time. There is no Biblical support for the idea that December 25th is the birthday of Jesus - and to this day, there are various sects which choose to celebrate that alleged event, on other dates.
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“ Do you ALWAYS selectively edit to distort and misquote” No, and there are zero examples of such.
‘ the bullshit (aka "pseudohistory") that you claim to be "fact", in your post.’ Nothing matches that description.
‘ Turning water into wine - was a story first told of Bacchus. Same with a "virgin birth"’ Yeah, neither of that is true.
“ Christmas is relatively modern invention” Except for the fact that it isn’t.
‘ which emerged as a competitor to "Saturnalia"’ Saturnalia was from December 17 to 23.
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"Except for the fact that it isn’t.
‘ which emerged as a competitor to "Saturnalia"’ Saturnalia was from December 17 to 23." - Exactly - the darkest time of the year inverted and coopted into a time emphasizing hope. It's also important to note that there were 12 days of Christmas celebrated at one point - and currently some sects go with a Celebration in Nanuary.

Please provide a link to your FIRST historical reference to Christmas - and your scriptural basis for the idea that Jesus was born on December 25th.

“ Do you ALWAYS selectively edit to distort and misquote” No, and there are zero examples of such." - in fact - the evidence of you distorting the meaning of what I wrote, and then attacking an ENTIRELY FALSE Strawman - is there, right in your post above, for any objective reader to see and confirm for themselves.

These appear to be doctrines of FAITH that you're asserting, and not any kind of scholarship. As such I feel no need to do a 'deep dive' producing sources to refute your unsupported allegations - save a link to a YouTube video - by a novice.
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“ you distorting the meaning of what I wrote, and then attacking an ENTIRELY FALSE Strawman” No such event happened
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Except that it's clearly visible in your misleading MISQUOTE - which lacks even the "..." needed, to indicate ellipsis. You're not doing yourself or your religion any favors, by blatantly lying.

And it seems odd that you're unable to accept even slightly different interpretations of the same facts as differences of opinion - rather than true/false binary logic choices. It seems to be a trait that you share with your cherry-picking, and confirmation bias beset, inexpert- alleged expert, in that video.
0 ups, 3y,
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“ blatantly lying” I will give you seven hours to retract that false accusation.
1 up, 3y,
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You were caught - and I see no other way to describe your prevarication.

It looks like it took 20 hours for me to reply that I have nothing to retract... I hope you weren't holding your breath...
1 up, 3y
There is nothing FALSE about the accusation. Being "Blocked" just means that you're not going to receive notifications, as far as I understand it. You don't get to edit the comments thread on my original meme.
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