Bank of America. Wells Fargo. Lockheed Martin. American Airlines. Berkshire Hathaway. Jennmar Corp. Alliance Coal. Murray Energy.
You are an idiot if you think Trump isn't playing the same game. Oh, you thought he self-financed, huh? Now THAT's funny.
LOL, prove it. No, Trump did not recieve donations from ANY of those you mentioned, or any other. And yes, he is self-financed, along with donations from his supporters later in the campaign. He got tons of small donations unlike Hillary, whose were all from the big banks and corporate interests. The GOP spent ZERO on Trump's campaign. Trump took on the establishment and beat them. You're just a butthurt moron.
Keep telling yourself that. Explain why he's donated to BOTH her and Bill's campaigns. He also won't deport all those illegals because they = cheap labor,which is also why his proposed 35% tax on companies who outsorce will be riddled with loopholes-so his big-business buddies and their lawyers will get away with making their products offshore and paying some kid in Bangladesh 25 cents a day. With that option,why would they hire an American worker,only to have to pay him up to $15 an hour (what some workers here demand),then pay benefits on top of that? Then,he has the gall to complain about NAFTA,when both NAFTA and his way of doing things screw the American worker. Smh.
NAFTA is bad for Americans, that's why he wants to get rid of it and the TPP is even worse. He opposes the TPP. You have no idea what you're talking about. The 35% tax on companies shipping products back here to sell is to make companies come back to America.
He never said he wanted to deport ALL illegals, just the criminals. Just another lie from MSM that sheeple like you believed.
You're painting me with a pretty broad brush there,Sith. Although,yes,I'm a Democrat (at least that's where I'm registered),but I'm not a complete idiot. Thank you for your assumption,though. Anyhow,I was against NAFTA when it came out,precisely because it meant American jobs were being taken away. I haven't had the chance to clearly understand the TPP and its ramifications,but I am against anything that takes away American jobs- be it NAFTA,the TPP or outsourcing (just the Nationalist in me). As for the MSM,that's bullshit,because at least two of the three major cable outlets favored him- CNN and Fox,and MSNBC vacillates as much as the Huffington Post. If you'd like to try this again without insults,let me know. If you'd like insults,let me know too. I'm cool either way
The misinformation from the media is unbelievable. Someone on another meme was calling Trump a corporate fascist for pushing for the AT&T/ Time Warner merger, something he opposes and had publicly been speaking out against!
If you ask me, Donald Trump seems to the more trigger-happy one, but I never really liked how Clinton handled the Russia situation either. War is terrible, and it should not be used as a solution to anything, especially a computer hack.
He wants an even bigger piece of his already obscenely large slice of the American pie. I doubt he does a damn bit of good for any of us. He's gonna be Dubya on steroids; just as dumb, but mean as an added "bonus."
You know nothing dude. Just like when you thought Project Veritas was an infowars conspiracy theory. You probably believe the lies about wikileaks being a plot by the Russians to interfere with the election.
You just get your opinions from MSM and probably your friends who also hate Trump. If you actually took the time to research what he's about, you'd realize you've been lied to by the media.
Actually you're wrong. I know the DNC/Hillary's attempt to divert was bullshit. I didn't buy it, and still don't. (I thought you'd have figured out by now I'm not biased nor blind)
Here's my sources:
*Reuters
*London Telegraph
*Politico
*Factcheck.org
*Mother Jones
I've found them to be pretty gawdam reliable. What's yours?
You thought Project Veritas was an infowars conspiracy. Don't deny it.
It's obvious you know nothing about Trump to make the ignorant statements you have. Do you even realize that Trump is basically an independent who took over the GOP? Do you realize he isn't even actually a conservative, that he's a populist?
You claim he doesn't want peace, yet all he's done is talk about establishing better relations with other countries. Russia has already said they are ready for talks to work toward relations because Trump won.
Mkay. I think he knows an amateur when he sees one.
I made it abundantly clear I'm not pro-Hillary. I hated her in 2008, 2012, and I hated her in DNC Primary. Then I did some more research (as if she wasn't dirty enough as it is) and found even more reasons to hate her. So let's not pretend I was for her, either. The "Lesser of Two Evils Game" has to end. Has to. For this country to survive another 100..hell, even 50 more years, we gotta put an end to this bullshit.
But I also am really tired of hearing the same "that's liberal mainstream media/ a conspiracy" shit, too. Not everything is false. Ever heard the old saying "Believe nothing you hear, and only half of what you see?"
And I noticed you changed the subject and got silent over my stated sources. Why's that? lol
Why wouldn't Putin want to be allies with us? See, the fact that you don't trust him just shows how you were tricked by the MSM narrative. Hillary falsely accused Russia of cyber attacks and threatened them. Trump said he wants to work with Russia. Of course Putin likes that. Russia is not our enemy.
I didn't change the subject, YOU did. You're dodging and still silent about your stance on Project Veritas because you know you thought it was a conspiracy theory lol. See? You know nothing.
I've already told you I get my news from alt-media and from actually LISTENING TO TRUMP'S SPEECHES. How many speeches from Trump have you listened to from start to finish?
I agree that better overall relations with Russia are not a terrible thing. However, I personally think it would be at least a couple tads better if someone like Alexander Dugin or the only offspring of Mikhail Gorbechav were to somehow become the next Russian President. Putin is widely known to have had been a member of the Soviet KGB in the 1970s and 1980s. It goes beyond just his KGB past; he also has approved of a number of political dissidents getting jailed by unlawful means. Many state and federal courts in Russia still haven't truly shook off the Soviet-era levels of corruption in them; sometimes they haven't done much else besides no longer be controlled by the communist party. True, Russia deserves a strong leader, but strong doesn't mean that one is honest as well. The elderly Gorbechav called Putin "an obstacle to progress". Russia doesn't need someone who is basically a Stalin without the mustache, hairdo, and without the title of "General Secretary".
Hey Viv. Let's also not forget the Ukraine Invasion and the Caspian Sea seizure, annnnd...the fact that he's ALSO got Clintonian "maybe-he-was-in-on-several-political-assassinations-of-rivals-maybe-he-wasn't-we-couldn't-prove-it" controversy around him.
Fact: Putin is NOT his people's choice; he's a modern-day dictator who maintains power by threats of violence, intimidation, and some say actual violence.
Let's not forget his and his cronies' stranglehold on Russian media and journalism.
I don't deny I thought Veritas was bogus. Ok? Happy? But you're ignoring PLENTY on your side of this debate. I'd also like to add; given the preparation I know is necessary, I'D smoke Trump in a debate. That's how stupid he is. He has one skill; running his little puckered-asshole mouth. He's....the white Don King. Nothing more, nothing less.
You know, In Australia, we can take care of you. Most of the people over here are pro-Clinton.
(Note that we have some Trump supporters too, but again, most Clinton. Don't judge me.)
No rush, really, inauguration won't occur until January, 2017. Since Bush-Gore contest at the end of the 20th Century, Progressives have promised/threatened to leave/flee the country if their candidate lost and they would have to live with a president not of their choosing. (I admit it is a small sample but I knew no one who even changed jobs, much less left the country.) There was a false report that the Canadian website for immigration crashed Wednesday but only time will tell IF there is actually an exodus. But don't bet on it. This is our 58th presidential election and the only mass exodus in our history was after the Revolutionary War.
I admire your self restraint. While I think of my own humor being almost as dry as dust, I try to avoid offense. But until now I haven't been guarding myself against gloating, since I was steadily (but quietly) predicting a DT victory. Thanks for a good example through your cogent comment. But please keep up the comments-It is cathartic. Thanks again.
Copy that. #notmypresident rubbish, skipping school (not work of course!) and tonight a local university student was almost in tears as she described her fear that DT supporters would assault her at any moment kinda turned my stomach as I watch the news tonight. Damn, just when I thought it was safe to start watching the news again, too.
It is what happens when you have a generation that does not understand the concept of winning or losing because they get "participation" trophies instead of mvp, most improved, and league champions. They don't learn how to win or more importantly lose. Until they learn those lessons they can never move forward because they will never look honestly at what is holding them back. They will continue to look in the wrong places, race, gender, religion, because afterall, it couldn't be their ideas.
Copy that. On the news tonight a local University student was nearly in tears as she described her fear the Trump supporters would assault her at any moment. And the #notmypresident coverage. And the big city 'demonstrations.' Ugh. I've avoided national news for over a month, and local news for weeks so I thought it would be safe to start again. So I can understand your frustration / temptation.
I have a hard time blaming them though, they will learn as soon as they are out of the shelter of these "universities". They will look back and wonder why the country clubs they have gone a 100k in debt to live in the last 4 years, didn't prepare them for life. Most will learn quickly and move on. The rest will spend their remaining lives blaming others for their failure. Between new age parents, schools and universities we have set the maturation process back 10-15 years.
Thanks for this exchange, guys. I would have preferred a conservative over Trump but I was resolved to vote for him (and encourage 'Bernie' folks to vote for Jill Stein). But when I saw Trump's kids he earned my support, not just my vote. Three wives, one family? Yeah, being POTUS should be easy for him.
Yes, many have been systematically shielded from the realities of living in an 'Action-Consequence' world. Lacking a sense of history and the bruising experience of life that provide wisdom and perspective, they take what their professors say at face value and act as if we, too, need to let them have what they want because they want it. And then there's the reinforcement of a shamelessly dishonest Progressive press that is happy to blame Trump and his supporters, as if they had rampaged after victory like an NFL linebacker celebrating a sack, breaking windows and burning Police cars. Alas, I fear it will be worse before it gets better.
I learned the old fashioned way. I got Polio at age 5. Got hurt on THE JOB and had to retire on disability. Had my house burn down and still rebuilding it. Life is hard sometimes. You get tired of being beaten down by events. You keep plugging along even if you might think of quitting from time to time.
Then one day this rich guy says he's willing to give up his day job and volunteer to try and make the country better for everyone. I see a guy who is willing to be America's BIG BROTHER and follow you to the playground we know as 'The Rest Of The World' and get your lunch money back from the bully.
Trump makes me feel safe. And I trust him. And I'm a 63
It's not easy to raise kids that level headed, especially with the trappings that surrounded them. Compare them to Paris Hilton. Grats on yours, as a dad I know that isn't an easy job!
Watch for them to emigrate to Malibu. Since they object to two party government they should feel comfortable here in California.
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Californians want their state to exit the United States because J. Trump won. I find that stupid because what will happen if a good president gets elected?
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I doubt my family will actually move to Canada...Because my mom made the same threat in 2004 when "Dubya" Bush was re-elected.
we have the 6th largest economy in the world...yes a state has a better economy than say France......and yet people in rural Iowa get more say in an election (people vs electoral votes) ...its a broken (not rigged) system
What are you even rambling about? How does California get the short end of the stick in the election process? I realize Californians think they should rule the country, especially Hollywood, but we aren't quite ready to give it to you.
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61% of voters in California voted for Hillary Clinton in this election. CA had a gigantic role in the election since it has the most electoral votes. Even my dad thinks The Golden State should secede from the United States, but it's completely unconstitutional.
FFS that's my point, California gets 55 electoral votes, 16 more than the next closest state and they still whine life isn't fair. There were states that didn't go for Obama in either election, and they didn't threaten to take their ball and go home. I'm sure California thought it was fair then. I didn't see California wanting to succeed when they were driving at breakneck speed towards bankruptcy a decade ago. I never heard Californians complain when the EPA forced regulations on the rest of us to clean up California. California is welcome to succeed but they have to take back all the Californians that fled your taxes and came here and have been working feverishly to do the same to Arizona. For all the gifts California got from this nation including land mass and resources that are the envy of every state, they don't have a lot to complain about.
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Haha our weather really spoils us. And yes, we are also very wasteful with our enviornment, especially the left celebrities in bel air. And yes, our taxes are waaay too high, The governors in Sacramento treat us like children and tax everything they can get their hands on.
I'd miss ya buddy... but there would be a good shot at me getting a beachfront apartment :) On a side note to your response to chaz, it's also the same system that put Obama and Clinton in the whitehouse. The system is far from broken, the electoral college is actually what keeps it working for states like California. Imagine how many visits you would get from a presidential candidate who only had to rely on the popular vote. I can tell you... ZERO. That's because all the campaigning would be happening on the eastern seaboard states and no one would give a damn about you, or any other state west of Tennessee.
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That'd be funny if it did for H.......she's funny like that.
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I agree, California's economy is gigantic, especially in agriculture, technology, and entertainment, but Governor Jerry Brown keeps putting regulations on us that make business and living in general extremely hard. But then again, a large portion of people want to move here for the amenities over getting a job.
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and he aint qualified either.
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@Chazthephoenix: I'm sure we are aware how broken the system is, especially because George W won over al gore in 2000 for the same reason trump won over Hillary.
I'm staying. No Three Percent/Oath Keeper is gonna run me out of MY COUNTRY,which I served,by the way. That was never an option for me,except to VISIT all 7 continents (a personal goal of mine).
Some gloat and joke, but the effect of mass migration would have a huge negative impact on the US. For those of you who don't understand how the economy works, when Trump kicks out all the Latino illegals, it's going to freeze construction, landscaping, hospitality, and service work in its tracks. These are jobs none of US can live on, so that's why we gave them up to THEM. Who's gonna do that work? Those jobs? Hmmm.... Trump's against raising the minimum wage, which would immediately make living off a low-end job possible.
You can't have it both ways, kids. You mock and scoff at the welfare queens and lazy losers on SSI (which is justified)... But then you turn around and sneer at the people stuck in low-pay jobs, sometimes working 3 just to pay their bills, and stay outta the street. Something's gotta give. You gotta pick one to shit on, and one to root for.
Re-caption this meme
You are an idiot if you think Trump isn't playing the same game. Oh, you thought he self-financed, huh? Now THAT's funny.
He never said he wanted to deport ALL illegals, just the criminals. Just another lie from MSM that sheeple like you believed.
Hopefully Trump does away with her
http://heatst.com/politics/canadians-dont-want-america-fleeing-american-liberals-especially-lena-dunham/
He wants an even bigger piece of his already obscenely large slice of the American pie. I doubt he does a damn bit of good for any of us. He's gonna be Dubya on steroids; just as dumb, but mean as an added "bonus."
You just get your opinions from MSM and probably your friends who also hate Trump. If you actually took the time to research what he's about, you'd realize you've been lied to by the media.
Here's my sources:
*Reuters
*London Telegraph
*Politico
*Factcheck.org
*Mother Jones
I've found them to be pretty gawdam reliable. What's yours?
You think you're smarter than Trump? Trump turned a million dollar loan into making himself a billionaire and runs 500 successful companies. Nice try.
It's obvious you know nothing about Trump to make the ignorant statements you have. Do you even realize that Trump is basically an independent who took over the GOP? Do you realize he isn't even actually a conservative, that he's a populist?
You claim he doesn't want peace, yet all he's done is talk about establishing better relations with other countries. Russia has already said they are ready for talks to work toward relations because Trump won.
Mkay. I think he knows an amateur when he sees one.
I made it abundantly clear I'm not pro-Hillary. I hated her in 2008, 2012, and I hated her in DNC Primary. Then I did some more research (as if she wasn't dirty enough as it is) and found even more reasons to hate her. So let's not pretend I was for her, either. The "Lesser of Two Evils Game" has to end. Has to. For this country to survive another 100..hell, even 50 more years, we gotta put an end to this bullshit.
But I also am really tired of hearing the same "that's liberal mainstream media/ a conspiracy" shit, too. Not everything is false. Ever heard the old saying "Believe nothing you hear, and only half of what you see?"
And I noticed you changed the subject and got silent over my stated sources. Why's that? lol
I didn't change the subject, YOU did. You're dodging and still silent about your stance on Project Veritas because you know you thought it was a conspiracy theory lol. See? You know nothing.
I've already told you I get my news from alt-media and from actually LISTENING TO TRUMP'S SPEECHES. How many speeches from Trump have you listened to from start to finish?
Book that I recommend:
--->Blowing up Russia Terror within
Fact: Putin is NOT his people's choice; he's a modern-day dictator who maintains power by threats of violence, intimidation, and some say actual violence.
Let's not forget his and his cronies' stranglehold on Russian media and journalism.
I don't deny I thought Veritas was bogus. Ok? Happy? But you're ignoring PLENTY on your side of this debate. I'd also like to add; given the preparation I know is necessary, I'D smoke Trump in a debate. That's how stupid he is. He has one skill; running his little puckered-asshole mouth. He's....the white Don King. Nothing more, nothing less.
(Note that we have some Trump supporters too, but again, most Clinton. Don't judge me.)
Then one day this rich guy says he's willing to give up his day job and volunteer to try and make the country better for everyone. I see a guy who is willing to be America's BIG BROTHER and follow you to the playground we know as 'The Rest Of The World' and get your lunch money back from the bully.
Trump makes me feel safe. And I trust him. And I'm a 63
I raised two great kids. It's a hard job. I see Trump's kid's as a reflection of the man who raised them.
It's not like it hasn't been done before, and it's legal. Quitcherb**chin or move to another country.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/09/canadas-immigration-website-crashes-as-donald-trumps-us-election-lead-grows
You can't have it both ways, kids. You mock and scoff at the welfare queens and lazy losers on SSI (which is justified)... But then you turn around and sneer at the people stuck in low-pay jobs, sometimes working 3 just to pay their bills, and stay outta the street. Something's gotta give. You gotta pick one to shit on, and one to root for.
I know which one I'M cheering for.
Just saying.
or to the ObummerCare clinic to get a pot prescription here in florida (we don't have basements)
#KissAmericaGoodbye