Hey "9/11 truth" cults

So that caused it to SMOLDER all day and then fall into itz own FOOTPRINT - LIKE AN OLD CASINO....

Wow, you twoof-cult sheep just can't stop sticking to the same old lies. It didn't "smolder" and DID NOT fall into it's own footprint. It actually fell onto buildings such as the Verizon Building, a post office, and a campus of the Borough of Manhattan Community College.

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html

You remind me of the guy being dissected (in his inferior debate technique) in the link above.

I think you disagree with some of the 'facts' offered by this video....but watch the building(s) fall - into it's own footprint - a5s OPPOSED TO TOPPLING OVER. Also when they do Controlled Demolitions - please NOTE - THEY FENCE OFF THE AREA-. Shit still comes flying out. - just not the way one expects in a REGULAR building collapse.

https://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nqbUkThGlCo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=677i43QfYpQ

So how about instead of making an ASS of yourself, with all of your assumptions about a HETEROGENEOUS group of people (and ME) - whom you clearly have no contact with - you pretend instead that your mind is a parachute - and get ready to let it work for you - by opening it.

I'm not making assumptions about YOU based on your membership in the 9/11 LIE cult. Those folks (of course) range from those who can't face the facts for emotional reasons (they usually can't accept that the Government 'representing' them, would IMAGINE, much less commit, such evil....) and those those whose misplaced loyalties (political or otherwise), and lack of morality, allow them to obfuscate intentionally, on behalf of the perpetrators - these, 2 groups we call USEFUL IDIOTS, as a matter of tradecraft - or the last A, of: AGENTS, ASSETS and ASSHOLES.

The First two A's get paychecks...assets usually from a PLAUSIBLY DENIABLE source. Agents work directly for the Govmint.

Let's pretend that of those 4 types that you are of the first - meaning that you're not JUST a disingenuous troll...but rather someone reachable by facts and logic...

http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/

Here is CLEAR proof that the Govmint can plan such things...

True ...Kennedy said "NO!", to that shit - but just Look at what happened to him. Killed by his own love of Covert Operations - like "MONGOOSE" - by the people who did such things (Committee 40), FOR HIM, and his successors.

There's no "Stockholm Syndrome" on my side, kook. Building 7 DID topple, and the FDNY set up a zone around WTC 7 because they KNEW it was going to collapse. The videos you showed DID NOT have a full view of the collapse of WTC 7, and the BBC's early reporting was due to them getting the info about the inevitable collapse from the fire department.

"I'm not making assumptions about YOU based on your membership in the 9/11 LIE cult."
But I don't have to make an assumption about you to know that YOU are a member of the 9/11 lie cult, which is what the SO-CALLED "9/11 truth movement" really is.

"Here is CLEAR proof that the Govmint can plan such things..."
No, that's simply proof that the Government thought about covert operations against the communist bloc in the past.

You should stop using "fighting words" with me fella...KOOK - while perhaps an apt descriptor for yourself...is an insult when used against those who are not - KUKAE like yourself...that's completely floundering barneys, everywhere.

Section 415 in California's Penal Code - makes that a misdemeanor. And that is grounds for action...like a subpoena to find your ip #'s etc.. So rather than talking big, anonymously, on the internet why not keep your ad hominems and insults to yourself and work on your arguments.

If there is a purpose to your argument it appears to be that you want people to agree with you and disagree with me...well I'm sure that the folks "REMEMBERING" as y'all do are probably on your side already.

So are you trying to convince ME to disregard my lying eyes - Which have seen the documents that you claim don't exist - changing the Chain of command and protocols in event of a "National Security Event Day" event - of just that sort....

The quoted language comes from elsewhere... The 1996 Kill Mumia bill if I recall correctly( - Effective Anti-Terrorism and Death Penalty Act - signed by Bill Clinton) so don't complain if you don't find it in the doc I mentioned....

You should go find Cynthia McKinney's questions to Donald Rumsfeld (as yet unanswered) about whether the war games that morning may have blunted our response to 9/11. Say what you want about her or ME...but your side is the one that can't - or just plain WON'T - answer questions. How many of mine have you give an honest answer to? Disingenuous ignoring is what I see...and then these tactics...

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html

Fairly PRESCIENT weren't those Firefighters...psychics maybe? How could they KNOW THAT? And well enough that they could get the word out in advance...to the BBC?

Were you THERE THAT DAY? Because I know folks who were. If need be, we can let you and they, and ANY credible researcher that you claim to know BETTER THAN...conduct a REAL INQUIRY - without the foredrawn conclusions. Because I haven't seen one yet.

OPERATION NORTHWOODS CONTIGENCY DOCs SHOWS that they were Contemplating the MURDER of AMERICANS on US soil - to JUSTIFY a war with Cuba... The same way the Nazis did with Poland - and We did with Afghanistan and Iraq. Thise are the facts...keep justifying your BLITZKRIEG....

I get it...YOU are blinded by Patriotism, or greed, or whatever motivates you to say such foolish things... But how does that change reality for me?

Cynthia McKinney is a kook too, and so are you if you follow people like her. The war game were irrelevant, and Operation Northwoods was not only scrapped but has NO RELEVANCE to 9/11. Neither does Hitler's attack on Poland! Your false comparison makes you an enemy propagandist!

Okay ... You WIN....WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. INGSOC. Rule OCEANIA. Eurasia has ALWAYS been our Enemy....

If the Wargames were IMMATERIAL as you claim.....then why not JUST SAY so - into the OPEN MIC in front of him? Because, Donald Rumsfeld is NO DUMMY. Lying on the Internet gets people like yourself EASY PAYCHECKS...

Lying to CONGRESS gets Secretaries of Defense potentially sent to Jail and disgraced . apparently. So no. Better to promise an answer that you don't provide....because the G-unit-integer-storms of the world have little AWARENESS of what is occuring NOW.... - MUCH LESS the memory and perserverance to DEMAND THE TRUTH from a decade or more previous. So why would a GOP and VICHYDEM controlled congress want to HOLD A MF'er for CONTEMPT?

THEY ON A REHAB TOUR for BUSH and CHENEY, right now - distracts attention from the present moment AND the ACTUAL past. Besides unknown Knowns and all....who the f**k could convict him? Jedi mind tricks work on the weak minded.... But you prove that...by trying to shore-up that tissue paper house of lies, that you live in...but's RAINING outside...and you're ALL WET - claiming to yourself as much as anyone else, that you're dry.

And she got ELECTED by her Disrict in Georgia (several times - in spite of a WELL CHRONICLED campaign of disinformation and BIPARTISAN assholery)...that makes her as qualified as ANYONE, who's ever been elected to serve there, to speak on ANY subject of interest to the American People. Or is she too female and black? Sorry...but Alan West is a KOOK. you ?

Contingency plans like NORTHWOODS. and the FALSE FLAG attack upon Germany...are like MADLIB SCRIPTS for WARPIGS. Cut and paste CUBA and Afghanistan - and the plot is the same. You might say that the MAGNIFICENT 7 and 7 Samurai are UNRELATED to each other, as well - and of NO RELEVANCE....but you would be EQUALLY WRONG ...THERE, TOO.

Your dumb Orwellian rhetoric doesn't apply, and it never has!

Your words, all over this page, prove the lie in that statement. Because you are always proving that 1+2= whayever thay SAY that it does. 4 this week - 2 the next. The important part, is that you MUST surrender your discernment, to the Ministry of TRUTH.

Since when did I say I'm a follower of Trump? And your accusations have been the lies all along.

You support those in power - WITHOUT QUESTIONing. What would be different with Trump?

1redshoe, there's a major difference between "questioning" and spreading lies. What you people do is spread lies.

Reminders;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Verizon_building_damage2.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Verizon_building_damage3.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg
NONE of those buildings were part of WTC 7's footprint, but WTC 7 collapsed on them.

As explained above - not PROOF of ANYTHING. They could just as easily been damaged by 1&2 coming down. Do you think that by making weak attacks upon an SOLID Critiques - of an OFFCIAL STORY that has been proven to be riddled with lies and implausibilty time and AGAIN, makes the OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY that you support any Stronger? Doesn't work for me....sorry.

No, they were each damaged by Building 7. Everybody who ACTUALLY SAW IT, said it was damaged by Building 7, and no other building!

So in the video - the collapse is NOT vertically oriented? It is NOT symmetrical and beginning with the mid-roof kink? What do you see EXACTLY. WTC7 Toppling over into the path of LEAST resistance...or falling downward into what SHOULD be the path of most resistance...

Eyewitness statements....REALLY? DID you TAKE THOSE YOURSELF? Do they disprove ANYTHING about Fire vs. Steel Frame buildings?

Direct examination is ONLY as good as the examiner allows for. When's my opportunity for CROSS- EXAMINATION?

You only showed ONE ANGLE of WTC 7 which was caught by that CBS News camera, and you people overlook the fact that it continued to collapse behind other buildings, which makes you think the collapse time was shorter than it really was.

You want more proof?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056088/Footage-kills-conspiracy-theories-Rare-footage-shows-WTC-7-consumed-fire.html

http://americanbuilt.us/images/911/WTC7-collapse.jpg

You think this was straight down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRkQ7Tr9Q3o&index=8&list=PLa2jaugRORQ1PrqM7L10P69UMQ-GaaoUw

Firefighters said it was going to come down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U&index=7&list=PLa2jaugRORQ1PrqM7L10P69UMQ-GaaoUw

People with functioning brains knew it was due to the collapse of the towers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-WZpXiEKAo&index=9&list=PLa2jaugRORQ1PrqM7L10P69UMQ-GaaoUw&t=3s

Here's a link that shows other buildings destroyed by the collapse of the towers besides WTC 7:
https://www.thoughtco.com/photos-of-911-attack-178537

One other thing; there's NO SUCH THING as "the official conspiracy theory." That's a lie made up by REAL conspiracy theorists to put reality on the same level with the bullshit stories they advocate, and you fall for.

I actally agree. There are no CONSPIRACY THEORIES... Just CONSPIRACY's and THEORIES...AND COVERT OPERATIONS. A Conspiracy becomes a COVERT OPERATION once the President signs off on it...unless like in IRANCONTRA - the signature is a criminal act by itself. In this case...maybe both.

But the 9/11 attacks were NOT a covert operation like Iran-Contra. They were an attack by Al-Qaeda on the United States, and not the first one either. And it's not true that there are no-conspiracy theories, because your false accusations against our government is a conspiracy theory.

And their contention that 19 men of Middle Eastern Origin did all that... Is NOT - A THEORY? When was it proven to your satisfaction? Because they had the theory in place DURING the attack. Bolstered by IMPOSSIBLE evidence...like the Hoax phone calls etc. - the functional equivalent of the listening posts and bogus radio traffic featured in the NORTHWOODS CONTINGENCIES.

Batt low. We'll talk later.

"And their contention that 19 men of Middle Eastern Origin did all that... Is NOT - A THEORY?"
No, it's a FACT!

"When was it proven to your satisfaction?"
The flight manifests, and phone calls from the planes.

"like the Hoax phone calls etc. "
They WEREN'T hoaxes, and there was no "impossible evidece. Those are more twoofer lies!

Cell Phones don't work @ 30k feet and 500 mph....particularly out over rural areas. By the time you hit a tower...you have moved on... Certainly not crisp and clear transmission. Since 2004 or so, the Planes have their own cell or something - because NOW you can...but not back then.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm

A capability we've been OMINOUSLY bragging about - since1999. Easily fakeable.And do you start a conversation with your mom, by giving HER your first and last name? LET'S ROLL (no homo).

'Gentlemen...we have decided to overthrow the US Government' - nothin' eery about THAT!

Are you being treated WELL. by your CAPTORS?

And with UBIQUITOUS NSA surveillance - those cell phones would have been ACTING AS the TRANSPONDERS on the planes - for tracking purposes. So you could have "found" them....(as if NORAD needs a TRANSPONDER to TRACK an airplane.) and intercepted - were that the GOAL..

And these guys knew the electronics so well on their plane, that they're disabling transponders - but by some versions of the BOGUS CALLS story (the official truth tends to migrate if you watch it, over time), must seemingly have left all the "AirPhones" active and usable.

Simply for OpSec - a bad move - UNLESS you want a story put out....

"Cell Phones don't work @ 30k feet and 500 mph....particularly out over rural areas."
I've already showed you that was a lie.

"And do you start a conversation with your mom, by giving HER your first and last name? LET'S ROLL (no homo)."
His mom said that was his thing.

"'Gentlemen...we have decided to overthrow the US Government' - nothin' eery about THAT!"
Nothing REAL about that either!

"Are you being treated WELL. by your CAPTORS?"
I DON'T HAVE any "captors."

Did you read the Arkin Article. Those were both DIRECT QUOTES. Also an audio link if it still works. Powell had Captors - in Soviet Rusdia...is called joke. So the calls are proof to a GULLIBLE JUROR like yourself. Not me. And no one else who deliberates seriously. Your proof was NOT proof. I am NOT convinced - and in ANY event - ANOTHER WAY TO TRACK THOSE PLANES.

Why was NORMAN MINETTA an enemy Sympathizer? He spent a few years in a concentration camp, sure...but one for putative fascists - so you SHOULD like him.

His mom is a F**KING LIAR. She is part of the wave of sentiment needed for the Operation Northwoods effect as described in the CONTIGENCY plans.

A big problem with your "voice morphing technology" delusion, redshoe; Just how was the government supposed to have obtained the voices of random passengers, some of which were schedule to flu on Flight 93 at the last minute?
http://web.archive.org/web/20040626080457/http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067652

"Jeremy Glick was supposed to have been on Flight 93 a day earlier, but missed the Monday flight after getting stuck in traffic on his way to Newark Airport."

"Another passenger, Lauren Grandcolas was on her way home to Marin County, north of San Francisco, after attending her grandmother’s funeral in New Jersey. Originally scheduled on a later flight, she had been pleasantly surprised to easily get a standby seat on Flight 93 at the airport."

BTW, the REAL developer of that voice morphing technology said it would've been impossible to do the things you people think the government did. Read the next to last quote, shoe;
http://911myths.com/index.php?title=Cellphone_calls_faked

Yeah apparantely the BBC news got wind of it before it hit it in there news feed. oops.

Guess where they got it from; The New York City Fire Department.

Doesnt matter. The point is.... how do they know the building is going to fall... BEFORE it fell???

Simple reason, retard. The fire and the damage from the collapse of the towers onto the surrounding buildings was so severe, it should've been obvious that it was going to collapse.

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No, you're the one who's dumb because you refuse to see it, when it's obvious to everyone else!

Hahaha you cant argue with these dolts. Probably a millennial sheep.

Fantasyland = The multiple revisionist history made up by various factions of the so-called "9/11 truth" cults.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U&index=7&list=PLa2jaugRORQ1PrqM7L10P69UMQ-GaaoUw

You should try it, fool!

Im talking to you aren't I.

But it's YOU that's being stupid here, not me.

Gee, that's funny. You twoof-tards have been telling everybody you're all waiting for Trump to declare himself as one of you!

I see you turds saying shit like this all the time! Your cult leaders like Alex Jerkoff Jones and Jesse "the Steroid-Body/Warped Mind" Ventura supported Trump's 2016 campaign, because he wasn't a mainstream politician, so you freaks have been dreaming he's going to come out and spew the same bullshit you've been brainwashed into falling for. Yet he hasn't regurgitated any of your bullshit yet.

WRONG moron! They just have a knack for conning idiots like you into believing the bullshit from their cults!

A brain is what you lack!

You lack a sense of reality, and nobody in "meme land" is doing anything to me except you!!