Opinions about veganism

That's because the carrots weren't screaming about it, either.

Veganism is BS. If we weren’t supposed to eat meat, it wouldn’t taste so good. There are lots of rhings we can do that are bad, like smoking cigarettes. Smoking should be good for you (like they used to say) since it’s completely vegan. I mean, even the paper is made from plants.

Last I checked, most people flavour and season their meat with PLANTS to make it taste good.

btw, most cigarettes are NOT actually vegan, but when you reach that level of argument, even you must know that you're lost.

Sorry, where clinically significant vegan populations exist they have shorter lifespans.

http://truther10.blogspot.com/2016/06/vegans-in-india-have-10-shorter-life.html?m=1

I didn't realise that "blogspot" is a peer-reviewed academic journal :/

"India has world largest vegan population". Wrong. And grammatically nonsensical. 31-42% of people in India are VEGETARIAN, but virtually all of them consume dairy. And you're referring to a country where poverty and malnutrition are common.

"India's per capita income (nominal) was $1670 per year in 2016, ranked at 112th out of 164 countries by the World Bank."

Yeah, let's use India as an example to prove that a particular diet is unhealthy. Never-mind that their diet is NOT what we're claiming it to be, they struggle to afford food, and the claims are not citing any credible source. You're 200% full of crap.

Not to mention that it's scientifically meaningless to compare the longevity of vegetarians (NOT vegans!) in one country to the longevity to meat eaters in a different country. How about we compare the longevity of smokers in the US to smokers in India, and maybe we could "prove" that smoking is healthy?

Look at the Adventist Health Studies, and you'll find that (after accounting for smoking, exercise, and other lifestyle factors) that vegans in the US live, on average, ten years longer than meat-eaters in the US. That's actual science, not just some crap I found from an incoherent blogger.

You can get your science from blogspot, and use that to justify clogging your arteries, but I'll stick to peer-reviewed medical journals and real science. Thanks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8

https://www.nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/some-types-of-vegetarian-diet-can-raise-heart-disease-risk/

Peer reviewed. The study is what matters, not who is using it in an article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/vegetarian-diets-heart-disease-link-higher-risk-health-food-sweet-refined-grains-potato-a7845286.html

Here’s peer reviewed that points out dietary shortfalls of vegan diet. This proves the diet is not what is I tended for Homo sapiens:

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/89/5/1627S/4596952

https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/bbc-looks-at-dangers-of-vegan-diet

1- Your first two links are about VEGETARIANS, not VEGANS.

Shocking... People who eat vegetarian junk-food are less healthy than people who eat healthier vegetarian food. Who could've guessed...?

"They examined the effects of three different types of ‘vegetarian’ diets: one which emphasized plants but included some meat, a healthy vegetarian diet consisting of whole grains, fresh fruit and vegetables and an unhealthy version."

So, the study included "vegetarians" who eat meat??? And you think that applies to vegans???

2- A study from 2009 that may have raised relevant concerns at the time, but newer research leaves it in the dustbin. Without citing hundreds of newer studies, I'll just point you to the Position of the American Dietetic Association: vegetarian [including vegan] diets - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864/

“It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian [including vegan] diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”

The American Dietetic Association's position paper includes 204 references. I think they researched it better than you did, before stating a position on it.

3rd link - A sensationalist tv show made sensationalist claims about kids on a vegan diet. In conclusion, the article you cited notes the same source I noted above, the Position of the American Dietetic Association.

I know more and more vegan "lifers", who have been vegan since conception. Without exception, they're among the smartest, healthiest, most socially well adjusted kids (and now adults, too) I've ever met.

About once a year, give or take, it makes international headlines when a kid is starved to death by clinically insane parents who claim to be following a "vegan" diet. In many cases, the diet isn't vegan, and in all of these cases the parents are just loons. But it's sensational, so it's news. Meanwhile... Childrens hospital in every city in every modern country treats millions of kids each year for malnutrition, and none of them are vegan. But that's not news, that's just statistics.