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You are using words you don't know the definition of...

We already saw how Bush's "Rubber Stamp" government worked.

Read this and be very afraid... http://investmentwatchblog.com/hacked-memos-from-george-soross-open-society-foundation-are-chilling/

Thanks. Couldn't read what he wrote. As a journalist, he makes a good dishwasher. But I persevered. The URL gave me enough info to look for better written articles. Breitbart I ignored, but came across some articles that didn't rely on fear mongering and hyperbole. I'll have to dig deeper, but a good start.

I apologize that I can't read your link, but to try (I made it to the third paragragraph before I felt a rumble) but it was not written for me.

But getting back to the influence buying, it actually backs up what I said about counter balance. On the left, you have Soros buying influence, and on the right, you have the Koch brothers.

When Bush left office, his rubber stamp policy for the GOP sponsored bills exacerbated our country's financial meltdown. Imagine if we had a Democratic Congress during the entire 8 years of Obama's administration.

I have to look at all sides of every issue before I make a judgement.

I also have to pick and choose carefully the sources I use. As I saw in the two articles I could read, Soros foundation is heavy into media manipulation.

If there wasn't an offset in power, how much bigger than $19 TRILLION would the national debt be?

Well, when Obama took office it came with a 1.7 trillion dollar deficit. That's money going out versus money coming in. Today, with a $19 Trillion dollar public debt, the deficit is down to $486Billion.

In 2001, Clinton and the GOP Congress handed over to Bush $5.7 Trillion in public debt, a surplus of $236, and a plan to pay off that debt by 2006. The rubber stamp mentality of party politics took over. Instead of real governance, it became a political pissing contest. If you check every veto Bush used, you'll see that it was only during a democratically controlled Congress. With a GOP controlled Congress, every bill that reached his desk was signed into law.

No, a balance in our system is needed as our elected officials spend more time currying favor from their corporate sponsors.

I am also acutely aware that it is the Congress, not the President, which approves the budget, so that it isn't POTUS Mr. OBAMA who is responsible for the growth of our national debt. (As it was Congress, not POTUS Mr. BUSH, nor POTUS Mr. CLINTON, et al, every other year since 1787.)

I don't disagree with you. I think the deficit is a scandal (- although I don't get the debt deficits distinction, honestly). The distinction between the two parties seems to be where they want to overspend and not a disagreement over the correctness of deliberate deficits and the ensuing (perpetual) inflation that robs everyone in the long run.

I had forgot what the difference was, so looked it up. Simplified, income versus outgo. Example: budget calls for $3.7 trillion to operate the country. If the IRS collects $4 Trillion, we have a surplus of $0.3 Trillion if the IRS collects $3.5 Trillion, we have a deficit of $0.2Trillion. The government then borrows money, usually from the Social Security Trust Fund, to make up that shortfall. This is a loan they are required to pay back, with interest.

I have to step back a moment to the Clinton administration. A number of things took place then that included raising taxes and cutting the budget. By the time Clinton left office, the IRS was taking in more than the government was spending, erho, the surplus. The project was two fold on surpluses: first was a plan to pay off the public debt by 2006. Also projected was building a nestegg to act as a rainy day fund, basically, to keep us out of debt.

Congress did several foolish things. Basically, it threw out the fiscally responsible plan, and went from tax and save to spend and borrow. It would be like you had $2K in the bank, so you went to your boss and demanded a cut in pay because you have too much money.

This is where the rubber stamp presidency has a problem. The GOP Congress decided that taxes were too high and pushed the Bush tax cuts that didn't expire until 2010. Unfotunately, they failed to cut the budget enough to offset the tax cuts. M

Thanks Swiggy. ( Is the ''1957" part of your handle a.d. 1957? )

YW. And yes, that's what it's for. Had to add that since there's do many using my moniker these days.It used to be if you used a search engine and typed in Swiggy, about 95% of the first 10 pages pointed back to me. Yeah, I'm old????

An even more terrifying thought: what if Hillary wins?

Hillarys Tax plan will crash the stock market and send us into a depression worse than 1929

I see this whining posted about 5 times a day. I think you just get off on whining because you're flat out wrong.

These Dem Libs have no plan and the crookedest Candidate ever and all they can do is call names like little 3 year old kids and somewhere , there are trees producing oxygen so they can breathe that deserve an apology !

there are a lot of things wrong, and what the dems don't realize is that win or lose, nearly all of us are screwed very very soon. That includes them. I wish they'd wake the hell up and realize we're all on the same side, on the same boat.

No, it was just SO important that Queen Hillary become the next president.

Going into this election 27% of all registered voters were Democrats. I see that number dropping after the election.

Imagine if Bernie had went independent.

I wish. He had high goals, which is what's needed, not bitty baby steps. If you set a low goal and achieve it, you slack off. Set a high goal and only make it halfway, you're still ahead of the person that set the low goal. Say Hillary, known for her low expectations, sets a goal at 25. Bernie sets a goal at 100. When the goal of 25 is reached, action stops. If the 100 goal is only half met, it exceeds the 25 goal by 2 to 1. Dreamer? Gotta aim high.

Back in the 60s, Kennedy said "We choose to go to the moon in this decade." We did it because he aimed high. Imagine where we would be today had he aimed a bit higher. Imagine bases on the moon. Prepping to fly to Mars.

But that's not to be this year

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