Thomas Jefferson

Our government is our own worst enemy. Especially right now with Barrack Hussein Osama, er, Obama in charge.

Well to be fair, Millions of illegals have been deported in the last decade..

And how many have come back since they were deported?

About 120% of them ...

Quick question:
How can 120% of people come back?
That means that everyone deported came back, and then 20% came back again?
IDK

How? One in five brought a friend… LOL!

Wow, how did you not get that?

Well, at least that anyone knows about :/

Millions is an inaccurate number. It's nowhere near that.

Maybe he's using that Common Core Math

[image deleted]Your user name reminds me of something I posted. Just goofing around mind you.

Jefferson did not migrate. I know its a small detail but it helps to know a little of history before using it to make points.

Did you not read the word ancestors? I know it's a small detail...

You are correct sir, I actually did not. You are historically correct. I don't know, maybe I am looking at too many of these lately and coming to the point where I expect inaccuracies historically speaking. My apologies.

I still don't know how I missed it :)

Non Politically Correct Sarcasm. Yet it is 100% Historically Accurate. I think people forget.

Shall we go over what else is historically accurate?

If by "killing police" you are talking about the abritish soldiers during the Revolutionary War, this country wouldn't be free if it wasn't for that. This was done to get out from under a tyrannical ruler. So if you want to live under that kind of rule again, you know where to go, unless you are already there.

There was nothing in the Constitution as a law or anything for white people to own slaves. It was part of the culture of the time, even before the first settlers in America while they were still in England. Not trying to justify owning someone as a slave, just making it historically accurate that it was part of the culture.

I would like to see a source to see the laws that were made making homosexuality a crime. I know that discrimination has taken place for centuries, but I don't recall an laws in which made it illegal.

As far as marriage, once again it goes back to the culture. African-Americans were not allowed a state-legal marriage, although many did live together as husband and wife.

A hunting and fishing license was not always required in this country. The first licenses were around 1890s, which would have been after slavery ended.

Hate to break the news to you Loving v. Virginia (Supreme Court 1967) made marriage between white and not white people legal. 1967!!! Interracial marriage will still illegal 49 years ago. Bowers v. Hardwick (Supreme Court 1986) made homosexual sex legal. Only 13 years ago!!! The stated reason of the Free Assembly Clause and the Right to Bear Arms in the Constitutional Convention was to prevent Tyranny, prevent a Strong Federal Government and ensure that there was no Nationalized Police Force. I understand your frustration with the irony of this being the land of freedom, but the politically correct history we hear today is not accurate. Gay sex could still be criminalized and was---up until 1986. Marriage between a white person and non white person was still criminalized up until 1967. The Framers of the Constitution never intended for gay sex to be legal nor did they ever intend for marriage to be permitted between nonwhite people or between white people and non white people. It was the law until 1967 AFTER Lincoln passed the Equal Protection Clause. Which created a strong federal government. Everything else is whitewashed through political correctness.

You stated only white men and white women and nothing about interracial as the problem, which is why I brought up black men and women would live together as husband and wife although it wasn't made legally recognized until after the end to slavery. Interracial marriage is a whole different story.

I am still waiting for the law to be listed that made gay sex illegal. In order to put someone in jail for it, there has to be a law. What was that law and when was it made?

Your original comment also mentioned killing thousands of police officers. When did this take place? I know the purpose behind the right to bear arms, that is common knowledge. However if you are going to make the claim that we killed thousands of police officers in order to give people guns in case more police officers are killed, I would like to see specifics about this claim on when and where it happened.

Killing Police - The Redcoats were the "Police" there simply was no other form of law enforcement officers prior to the revolution. They appear on city streets the same way uniformed officers do today in pictures from the time. Tens of thousands were killed and an amendment was passed banning the quartering of law enforcement in the home. The second amendment was intended to keep the people at least equally as strong as a police force. Shootings are part of our culture. See any wild wild west cowboy movie. Its nothing new. Those movies are historical accounts of the creation of early police and semi-police forces. The "armed possee" shooting people was intended by the second amendment. The possee could shoot the sheriff. This was the intent of the second amendment.

Gay sex was individually banned by the states. States had criminal laws and were free to unitil the Supreme Court prohibited this in Bowers v Hardwick. It was 100% illegal for decades on a state by state basis. The framers were Christians. The bible does not permit homosexuality. No one has ever claimed homosexuality was legal in the 1700's -- laws on the books prohibited it until 1986.

Marriage and rights in general were only applicable to white people. This fact has been dropped from our history. As Christians, Americans were not bothered by a man and woman both of another race holding out as man and wife in the 1700's (according to whatever culture they were from) but in literal terms, there were nearly no nonwhite free people in the 1700's. The framers did not intend non white people to have the rights of white people. They freely permitted enslavement of people who were not white and not black (other races). That is a fact of American history. The clauses of the constitution that allow slavery never say "black" people. These clauses applied to any nonwhite people.

The Second Amendment was always intended to be an anti police provision in the Constitution. So no police force could exert more force than private citizens.

The first 5 Amendments are all one thing. Free people. Guns to ensure it. No intrusive police. No intrusive police practices. And Due Process. Due process required a grand jury. It would be impossible to charge any person with any crime with no organized law enforcement system controlled by the government. A grand jury would refuse to indict the possee for shooting the Sheriff in the 1700-1800's

By stating we shouldn't have killed the "police" or the redcoats you are pretty much stating that you think we should still be under the rule of Great Britain. Nice to know.

I can't find a single case of sodomy in which 2 consensual adults partook in sodomy that resulted in their imprisonment. The sodomy laws I have found mainly pertained to what is also referred to as criminal sodomy, or essentially rape. The LGBT community used these laws to say that they could be misconstrued to allow officers to lock up same sex couples for having sex. So unless you can provide something to show that a significant amount of gay couples were imprisoned for consensual gay sex, I don't see how this is really a problem.

"Marriage and rights in general were only applicable to white people." Did I not say 2 times that although black couples would live together as husband and wife it was not legally recognized until after slavery ended? It really doesn't matter in this conversation as to if there were other than black slaves, since I am sure that even if there were Asian slaves that there were still couples that lived together as husband and wife even though it was not legally recognized. The point is that they were not imprisoned for it, which means they could still legally be together.

I dont mean we should still be under The Crown. I was just stating how it was back then. The law was nothing like today. Back then it was the opposite of what we have today. And the framers were about freedom from government according to what the bible says. Almost all of that is over. Political correctness ignores most of our history.

You made it seem like it was a bad thing to fight for a freedom, since you made every other thing you said sound bad. And of course the law was nothing like it is today. Yes the laws had religion backing how they were made, and today religion is being pushed out of this country little by little. But not all laws were made because of religious beliefs, but because of how the culture was. If the culture of the time didn't have interracial marriages, why would they think that it is something that needed to be considered? If the culture saw homosexuality as unnatural, why would they give the same rights to those people as others?

But still all of this still doesn't change the fact I don't think you ever understood the purpose of the meme.

I got the meme. Believe me, I've been checked for a fishing license in the park where 200' away a bunch of illegal aliens were having a bbq..............