I mean, if they don't like our Constitution and aren't willing to defend it...

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LMAO!!! And awesome Zero wing reference pic dude! :{

So true as well!

lol :{

We're going to be the ones leaving!

First off, the Orlando killer did not use a fully auto weapon and second, it won't stop any of the killing. Someone could use two pump shotguns with buckshot and easily kill 5-10 people in seconds then use pistols to kill more until they ran out of bullets. It really amazes me how people like you lack the common sense to know if one weapon is removed another will take it's place whether it is a pressure cooker bomb, a car or a plane. Not only that, a ban will only stop citizens from getting them not criminals.

Um. I've read the proposals on Gun Control Law. If you're already a background checked person, there IS no restrictions. They wanna do stuff like limit round capacities (because you don't need a 45-round mag to kill a deer or quail), make it harder for nutbags to get their hands on them, and just employ common-sense policy that, uh, the REST of the Western World already has implemented.

That (wrong, paranoid) belief that "they wanna take our guns!" is OLD, frankly speaking; not to mention unsupported, and just as extremist as the liberals' agenda you neocons hate so much

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The Liberal assault in work is to ban military style semi-auto weapons. I'm not speaking of the current law. Obviously you didn't comprehend my point. It doesn't matter what is done with weapons it won't stop the killing. It's a people problem not a weapon problem.

Got any ideas how to stop the "people problem?" You DO know the Reagan Administration is responsible for massive cuts in mental health funding, which put 1,000s of mentally ill patients in the street. And almost NOTHING has been done to improve mental health programs and funding for them since.

You see, the Republican (non) logic is nonsense: they wanna fix a problem, without funding the solution to them. They wanna complain about what others do, but HAVE NO IDEAS THEMSELVES.

And THIS, along with several other reasons, is why the GOP is dying off. Like it or not, this country's shifting to a more progressive cultural climate. And that's leaving the true-blue, dyed-in-wool Republican behind. Nobody cares what they think anymore. And the majority of America hates them.

And it's THEIR FAULT. lol

@BlackATTACK;
Well said!

First off, I'm not Republican, I'm an Independent which means I actually think about something before I make a decision. You're correct in saying America is a Liberal country and it will continue to do so because most people are whiney shits and want their way no matter what the cost and politicians are only concerned with votes and their position. All someone has to do is look at the country today as compared to 30 or 40 years ago and you can see just how bad it has gotten. Don't bring up racism and other garbage I'm speaking of the economy and public safety. The country was a better place when the rules were enforced and money wasn't the main goal of politicians. If you want to see America get back to where it was then you have to enforce the old rules. There are plenty of ideas but if a whiney Liberal doesn't like them then we have what you are posting. I do believe it's the governments fault for not taking care of it's citizens safety, health and economic security. The GOP is just as bad as the Liberals. Until people think for themselves and remove the two party system there will never be common ground in politics. It's a system bent on keeping people separated. Hence why there are only two parties.

I didn't identify you as a Republican; I merely mentioned those responsible. I agree with you fully. Nobody follows the rules anymore; they just litigate their way, and throw a fit until they're the exception TO the rule.

But we agree more than you think. And I'm an Indy, too.

"the Republican (non) logic is nonsense: they wanna fix a problem, without funding the solution to them. They wanna complain about what others do, but HAVE NO IDEAS THEMSELVES". You did say this in your reply and asked me if I had any ideas on the problem. Someone could easily take it the same as I but it's irrelevant. You and I could throw ideas around just as easy a poop but the only thing that would come to fruition is we would have to take a shower. Personally I would like to see all semi-auto firearms banned so the liberals can finally see it won't matter and the killing will continue. Then we can get the law repealed and not have to listen to useless rhetoric. Liberals don't want to hear what needs to be done and will fight anything that will actually work. The removal of illegal immigrants and returning to the systematic processing of immigrants like it used to be. Not allowing immigrants in that are a security risk, not taking immigrants from hostile countries are a few. That's just the tip. I would like to see the world powers take over any country that is harming it's citizens and causing mass emigration then returning the country back to the citizens. That way the rest of the world doesn't have to accommodate them and they can stay home.

Agreed. I'm seriously 1000% done with this meme now. I just spent 10 mins of my life reading the latest angry comments from tetsuo and argument from Octavia.

I'll never get that time back.

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. Sorry for being a douche in advance, but:

The 2nd Amendment is so that US citizens can defend against the government. It's literally the only reason we were barely invaded in our history.

You haven't thought this through, and are more than likely not thinking critically on gun control "laws". :{

First off,if someone was carrying a pistol,the bouncer could easily tackle the guy, with a semi auto AR-15 the bouncer cant do anything,therfore, only Buying Pistols to defend yourself should be legal,not a semi auto assault rifle...

Ask Trayvon Martin what happens when you tackle someone with a pistol. Your comment is completely hypothetical and usually anyone who comes within eyesight is shot. It's much easier to manipulate a pistol than a rifle. Your point is ridiculous.

yes, but if someone walked into a club with a pistol, instead of a semi auto rifle, wouldn't people have a better chance of getting the attacker down and surviving, since the FBI could have a better chance of fighting the shooter off...& plus, if citizens don't have any guns to protect themselves, that's gonna hurt their safety..

It would be easier for the shooter to get into the club with concealed pistols instead of a rifle in his arms. In either case the shooter would take out anyone at the entrance as he walked in whether bouncer or club goer. Think if you're in the club and someone had two 15 round semi pistols. That's 30 shots and they were randomly turning and shooting people around them as they ran. Would you try to jump the shooter? I someone jumped the shooter what's the odds that that person held BOTH of the shooters arms to keep them from being shot. Practically nill. The shooter could easily put a pistol behind his back and shoot someone who grabbed them. A bullet is a bullet no matter what it is shot from.

yes, but what I'm saying is people should be allowed to have only a pistol, to defend themselves because if somebody walks up to u with a stolen gun u need to arm yourself...

Why? The Constitution specifically describes "Militia". Do you not understand this term and purpose? Obviously not. In any case like I said in my previous post. A bullet is a bullet no matter what it is shot from. The Liberal view of limiting gun type is like putting a bandaid on an amputation. It won't stop the bleeding.

Please stop talking about firearms and the 2nd amendment when you don't understand the terms involved in doing so. :{

That's a useless comment as I never said they weren't. And because I would still be expressing mine. So...

But let me put it this way: would you want Bill Nye talking about science if he had NO credentials for it? :{

Thank you. That's how I feel about the 2nd amendment issue. To me it's a non issue. I also think the rest of the world should stop unethically denying its citizens this basic right. :{

I think youre all f**ked. Why the f**k so gun hungry? You obviousy couldn't do f**k all for the recent tragedys in Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, Boston or Florida.
When the next tragedy hits, where the f**k you gonna be? We dont see it comming, we dont see it under our noses. Yeah I get you want to protect yourselves and your family...why not. Somebody come to my house causing shit, he gonna have a rude awakaning. But you guys are acting like its in you back f**king yard. Its in your "park" bein the US, but not your f**king front yard, John B Smith of 1st st. and Mayberry. Oklahoma, san Bernadino, doesnt f**kin matter, they wanted it, they got it. Meanwhile you were at home with your dick in your hand (figurativly), polishing your gun. I dont give a f**k, you guys have guns or not, just stop thinking that if you got em, youre gonna save the world.

That's all YOU dude. Stop projecting.

I'm saying if there was an invasion, not a mass shooting.

I was also pointing out that if people were allowed to defend themselves and carry, Trump mentions this, that the "mass shooters" can deal with MORE return fire than just a single on duty cop/guard.

No one was saying/implying that we could be Punisher-like vigilantes for whole cities.

That's all in YOUR head. On your side of this.

If every US citizen old enough to wield an AR-15(or equivalent rifle) and basic pistols, was trained to use the firearm by their parents(also trained by their parents) it would change the outcome of future "mass shootings".

I fight for the 2nd amendment and spread the word so that people know their rights. People seem to think the Bill of Rights is amendable, when they're natural rights and can't be taken away. For instance, you can't make an amendment that allowed rape. That's a natural right. Same with the Bill of Rights.

And no, my weapons aren't extensions of my cock. I and most adults are not that petty.

"I dont give a f**k, you guys have guns or not, just stop thinking that if you got em, youre gonna save the world."

Dude, all I can say is you're not taking it as seriously as you should. :{

Holy f**k dude. First I didnt say extension of your cock, but if thats how you feel. You're talkin like you're ready for the next invasion. Hey, Red Dawn was just a movie. No country or idealism is ever gonna try n take over the US. Never gonna happen. But they will go bit by bit as they have. I disagree with the whole take away the guns thing, obviously thats not the problem. You want guns, have em. But dont start talking or acting like the fact you gotem coulda stopped shit. Yeah we have guns, we shoot em, shoot stuff and play games with them and thankfull we have them, but it's not our entire idealism, or what identifies us as a society.

Dude, calm down, you sound like your vage is sandy and it's probably making you not think straight.

You referred to a gun as my dick in my hand. That's what extension of the p**is means. Do you understand now?

"You're talkin like you're ready for the next invasion. Hey, Red Dawn was just a movie. No country or idealism is ever gonna try n take over the US. Never gonna happen. But they will go bit by bit as they have."

*sighs

Being CAUTIOUS is not being paranoid.

I'm not saying I think there is an invasion coming soon. I'm saying that the reason people won't invade is BECAUSE of the 2nd amendment and peoples ability to purchase firearms as their armament of choice.

It's a right dude. I don't know what makes you so adverse to it, but you sound like you just eat up the media's bullshit.

"But dont start talking or acting like the fact you gotem coulda stopped shit."

It's been proven that it does dude. You're just ignoring facts. People who are armed shoot back at these people.

"Yeah we have guns, we shoot em, shoot stuff and play games with them and thankfull we have them, but it's not our entire idealism, or what identifies us as a society."

Again, that's all YOU, and you're PROJECTING. I never said or implied that, why you feel that is all on you.

But the 2nd Amendment is still more important than you're realizing at this point in your life. :{

You did insinuate an "extension of his cock". If you're going to use a metaphor than at least understand the definition of "metaphor".

Sorry. The expression standing there with your dick in you hand was not a euphamism. Its an expression like sitting there with you thump up you ass or standing there with anblank stare. Just a colloquial term. Sorry for the misunderstanding. IE., there was nothing you coulda done.

Gun owners can't stop every bad guy, but how many HAVE been stopped? Also, I don't know of too many bars or clubs that allow guns so how COULD any gun owner have stopped the shooting at the Orlando club if they're RESTRICTED from bring their gun to said club?

The 2nd Amendment is about defending ourselves from our own government, foreign invaders and personal safety, not trying to stop criminals. That's what law enforcement is for and unfortunately obama's policies have made it difficult to prevent these shootings from happening.

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FYI, Sweden has 50% by population gun ownership and has one of the lowest gun related crime and fatality rates in the world since WWII BUT (now read this carefully and use your brain) the crime rate has risen DRAMATICALLY since they began taking in Muslim refugees. It seems Sweden has people with brains and understand what a firearm is for. Amazing how a country with that many weapons has little casualties. Could it be the people? Naaahhhhh, that's too logical.

Mote like 6% gun ownership, And VERY regulated. Do your research son.

"There would need to be a valid reason for ownership of more firearms. It is stipulated that all firearms are to be stored/kept in an approved gun safe. It is illegal for a civilian in Sweden to carry a firearm, unless for a specific, legal purpose;such as hunting or attending shooting ranges."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/switzerland.asp 45.7 guns per 100 residents. I should have said number of guns per capita not ownership. Third in the world for number of guns.

The U.S. was fine and guns were readily available including AK's, SKS and many versions of the M-16 in the 60's, 70's and 80's but there were no mass shootings. I used to walk in and out of my neighborhood with a shotgun on my shoulder to go hunting and no one bothered me. Now the cops would probably take me down. Take a moment to reflect on why things have changed. Is it because guns are readily available? Nope. They have been for many decades. The people have changed. They don't care about others anymore and the government is helping to cause the problem. Mass unemployment, low wages, two parents working while kids are home alone, greedy politicians and CEO's and now we have people coming to the country with no respect for the country they come to.

[image deleted]Just so you know...Bill said recently that GMOs are SAFE.

I only used him as an example. I don't actually endorse Nye.

And I don't doubt that Nye is spouting off more of the UN "scientific" rhetoric. Dude's a shill. :{

I just didn't want to miss an opportunity. Can't think of him in terms of "science guy" anymore.

He's our "science guy"!

lol I getcha man. He's more of a "government puppet" guy than a science guy. :{

An awesome gun by the way, no i don't own one :(