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Bernie's going to be lowering taxes...

He plans to tax and distribute from the 2nd class and wealthy AND Jail those who oppose the idea

Exactly! And most of the people on here don't even surround themselves with liberals, and they just make assumptions about us as a whole. It's so annoying, they think we're all politically correct SJW socialists.

Sort of, I used to be completely against it, but now I'm not sure where I'm at.

I agree .-.

Yep. Mmm hmmm. I guess it takes one person without common sense to recognize another.

I didn't say I support Trump's "wall" idea. But turning the common sense back on conservatives doesn't accomplish anything.

Neither does placing common sense (or lack thereof) on liberals in the first place!

Well, it got me on the front page, if nothing else.

There are tons of conservatives on this site... as a joke (not to offend) I could call it Fox News .^.

True. You gotta do what you gotta do. :)

And Mexico will pay for it!! Better then giving money to Syrian refugees ask isis

Mexico won't pay. They said they won't, so a traffic cone in a black suit won't change their mind.

Did u even listen to how trump said he'd pay for it? Are u that ignorant? Why do you hate the usa so??

I heard. He said he would make Mexico pay. If they don't then it'll get ten feet higher, blah blah blah. If you actually think it'll work, then you're the ignorant one.

So you heard what nbc said he said. Yes ur ignorant.

Alright, troll, I'll bite. What did he REALLY say?

Look it up. You lazy ass

Just because I'm black I'm sub-human and I should have half a vote?? I knew you were an idiot but I didn't know you were a racist one.

When did u ever say you where black? I didnt know that. Pullin that race card too early cosby.

He said that if Mexico doesn't pay, the wall will get ten feet higher. I saw the actual footage, it has nothing to do with the source.

Ok lol. Like it or not trumps ur next president. Go find a safe place and cry you sub-human. Your vote should only count as half a vote since you love islam so much. Hey lets have foreign laws on american soil too.

Yeah, "I didn't know that", that's what all racists say to backtrack. Do I have to go and cry in a Negroes-only bathroom too, since you told me to go cry somewhere earlier?

Lol if you want. You never said you were black. Lol don't try to win an arguement by falsely acussing me of racism. Wow you are so ignorant. Hahhah

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America won't be paying for it...Trump is going to seize the money that illegals are sending back to their home countries and use that to build the wall.

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Also, How is he going to seize the money from the illegals since it is doubtful they have any with the advantages they're having over them? Not to mention how difficult it would be... .-.

I never said all illegals are rapists or criminals, but the fact remains that criminals DO enter the country everyday from Mexico.

Your "fact" that "most rapists/criminals come from here" is like saying that most terrorists come from one particular country so let's not worry about possible ones from any other country.

The fact remains that people can easily enter the US illegally, don't you think that terrorists know about that? What's to stop them from doing the same?

I know illegal immigrants who work for cash and send it back home. One guy from Ecuador showed me pics of the mansion and estate he's having built in his homeland just from working in the US for 10 years because our money is worth so much more than theirs. I don't know how you're the authority on how "difficult" it would be to seize money from people like that who are sending it home.

Explain to me how sending money out of the USA helps our economy

You want me to explain? Why don't you ask renegade_sith why he didn't just call ICE on the illegal...

You should also pay attention to outsourcing and Trump's blatant lie that he is magically going to bring those jobs back to the U.S. Doing that is quite unlikely.

Meanwhile you support the abuse of woman

No I do not. Where in the world did you get that from?

How dare you accuse me of that. I am not a sexist. Have fun pulling the most absurd arguments out of nowhere!

Can you even argue against ANY of my points? I bet you think Islam is great too.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/crowd-cheers-woman-brutally-caned-7087489

Yes, I have argued against your points previously, but I'm not going to waste all of my time on you either. I am also not fond of your Islamaophobia. I do not agree with the beliefs of the religion, but not all Muslims are terrorists. There was a trump supporter who actually wanted to bomb a mosque, but you don't here that in the news, do you?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-supporter-bomb-maker-sentenced-90-days-threats-kill-muslims-a6953896.html

Mexico won't pay. If Trump tries to make them, Europe will respond to stop it. And without Mexico paying, Trump will have to resort to tax dollars in order to get the abomination built.
Terrorists wouldn't cross the wall, because they'll enter from the East if anything. But illegals are technically criminals, so there's that to think about, I guess.

I didn't realize you knew the future. Forgive me. I also didn't realize that Europe was a single entity capable of dictating to us what we can and can't do. Did you mean the UN? We are allies with those countries, it's in their best interest for America to be secure. Yes, terrorists could still enter from the east. What's wrong with eliminating a major breach point that is the US-Mexico border?

It could stem the breach, but it will be a clog costing tens of billions of dollars, plus several billion per year for maintenance. And will it even stop anything? People could dig under it (there are already tunnels under the current fence) or just climb it with a big ladder, and people could literally just throw packages of drugs over like footballs. Between 30 and 40 percent of illegals attain visas LEGALLY and simply overstay them. A big wall can't stop that.
Europe may be our allies, but they have never put up with our BS. Europe plus Russia and every other country who hates us would easily have enough power to take us on. Aggressively forcing another country to give us money is way to risky if we want to maintain friends.

Billions of dollars to protect our country is nothing. We spent trillions on a failed war in Iraq. You are simply ignorant on this matter. Nobody would be able to throw bags of drugs over. First of all, the wall will be manned by border patrol agents. Second, people who overstay their visas won't be able to do thar because there will be deportation agents to take care of that. Third, the wall will create thousands of jobs, and thousands more will be employed to defend it.

I don't know why you keep referring to Europe as a single entity. Seizing money from illegal immigrants is justifiable, as they earned that money illegally. Russia hates us because of Obama's administration and his policy of letting muslim Syrian refugees in America and encouraging our allied nations around Russia to do the same.

I think billions huge. Instead of building a wall, we could improve schools or try to phase out lead pipes so Flint 2.0 doesn't happen.
You mentioned border guards: Paying them will cost millions, feeding and watering them (they're in the middle of the desert, usually without a town nearby) would cost billions per year, and how many people would it take to police a 1700 mile long wall? How many guards per mile? How many more in reserve? Who does the menial plumbing and cleaning jobs?
Russia hating us because of Syria doesn't change the fact they hate us.

A few billion to build the wall is nothing. At least the wall would improve our security, Obama just gives money away to muslim nations.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/07/obama-pledges-aid/2630061/

So you think paying more border agents is a bad idea because of the costs? That kind of money is nothing.

My point is that Russia hates us BECAUSE of the Obama administration.

I don't know anything about the donations, but you wouldn't make it up.
I honestly don't like the idea of a Hillary presidency either. Gary Johnson, anyone?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/02/18/foreign-donations-to-hillary-clintons-foundation-raise-major-ethical-questions/

The American Islamic Congress condemned the measures regarding women that the Global council enacted. Heck, my best friend is Muslim and I have never once seen him lightly beat his girlfriend just because he can.
Have you ever thought that Obama is aiding Muslim countries because he wants an ally in the Middle East (because we need one, badly).
I am worried about Islam. But not worried enough to want to act on it.

Yeah that's funny, Israel used to be an ally until Obama turned his back on them. I'm NOT saying all Muslims are women beaters, but that doesn't change what's in the Quran. Countries like Saudi Arabia have been giving millions to politicians and to the Clinton Foundation for years. Sharia law in America is closer than you might think. Look how close this vote to override the no foreign law bill was to passing:

http://conservativetribune.com/muslims-attack-texas-mayor/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2016-06-07&utm_campaign=manualpost

Israel does whatever the f**k they want. If America was attacked by Russia, there is a zero percent chance they would help us.
Good for that Texas mayor though. I may sympathize with Muslims a bit, but Sharia law is the worst thing since Communism.

Well that we can agree on (I'd say sharia is even worse than communism). I just hope that people don't get intimidated into accepting sharia just to not seem intolerant. It's so sketchy that Hillary (and who knows who else) has taken so much money in donations from Islamic countries. It seems to be an agenda that they're pushing. I know that I don't want to find out. Obama has asked Bernie to give his support to Hillary in the hope that his supporters will vote for her and tried to bribe him into doing it by assuring Bernie his policies would be incorporated. It seems Obama and Hillary have the same agenda and Hillary winning would basically be a 3rd Obama term. I don't agree with Bernie's policies, but Hillary winning would be the worst thing that could happen.

Thanks for the link, it was compelling.

Will it improve security? Ask a Texan, Arizonan or New Mexican who lives against the border, and they'll give you a different answer than the one you want.
Obama is giving money away so people can fight the people that you are worried about. I agree it's not smart, but I don't what that 195,000,000 to go to building a wall.

Obama supports Islam, this is public knowledge. He wants to strengthen Islamic nations to fight against their enemies because he supports Islam. You should be worried about Islam too. I for one, will not stand for this in America.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/crowd-cheers-woman-brutally-caned-7087489

We spent trillions on a war we didn't need? We can thank the Republicans known as Cheney and Rumsfield for that! Bush was just a puppet-he doesn't come off as a mastermind of such a diabolical plan to me, but nonetheless, he let it happen. And you think Trump would surround himself with better people? He is SUCH a liar and doesn't even want to release a single tax return! He was criticizing the use of telemprompters, and guess what? He ended up using one! A bit hypocritical, don't you think? Not to mention that Trump University was a sham, and he accused Judge Curiel of being part of a hate group (the La Raza he is part of is a lawyers association-it's different).

Yeah, those guys were complete pieces of shit, an opinion that Trump shares.

https://youtu.be/H4ThZcq1oJQ

The Trump university attacks are a witchhunt orcestrated by Obama (he appointed the judge) and his administration. Not to mention him and Hillary are on the side.

Did you know that Bill Clinton appointed Trump's sister to a judicial post? Even if Trump did share those beliefs about Cheney and Rumsfield, his erratic behavior should signal anyone that he is not stable enough to handle the nuclear codes. My point is that if Bush surrounded himself with those evil men, I doubt Trump would do any better. Also, you didn't spell "orchestrated" correctly.

Funny that you have to resort to being a grammar nazi because you can't argue against my points. You spelled "teleprompters" wrong earlier. I'm fast typing in the middle of playing a video game douchebag. Why would Trump surround himself with evil men just because Bush did? That's a strawman argument. And what qualifies as "erratic" behavior? Trump hates Bush. Did you even watch that video?

I can't reply to your latest comment. You're a video game fan? No wonder your brain is so messed up. Do either one thing or the other. If you think that Trump has not been behaving erratically, then I don't know what you are on. Seriously, he accused President Obama of being a Muslim from Kenya AND he believes that Obama is on the side of the terrorists! How messed up is that? You also failed to contradict my points about Judge Curiel (Trump was obviously in the wrong). Furthermore, Trump STILL hasn't released a tax return, Trump University is a SHAM, and he criticized President Obama's use of a teleprompter and now HE is using one himself. Is that what you want in a President? If so, then the Founding Fathers were right about the lowly educated citizens of this country.

Yeah...a MAJOR breachpoint which is exploited every single day...do you have a point?

The point is...

Honestly, I'd rather have dozens die here than thousands out there (Islam). And upgrading security is always an option.