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We need more Clinton control | HILLARY CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE TOO MANY GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY I SAY WE HAVE TOO MANY CLINTONS IN THIS COUNTRY | image tagged in gun in face,gun control,hillary,election 2016,memes | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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IF I DON'T NEED A GUN WHY DO YOU? | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I DESPISE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY NEED A GUN | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I got where you were going but sometimes comments take a left turn (no pun intended...well maybe a little) :)
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And with that, the next generation of corrupt Clintons is getting traction. Now look who's hitting those fat pitches :)
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Fun fact, USA has over 270.000.000 guns, more than 1/4 of the entire world's know gun supply (~875M).
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Wow, that's a lot of guns. And yet we still have too many Clintons in the US...lol
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Don't look at me, look at them.
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i agree
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Both statements are true.
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False. She did not flip flop-- "pro-gun" does not mean "anti-all-gun-control measueres":

"CLINTON: I respect the Second Amendment. I respect the rights of lawful gun owners to own guns, to use their guns, but I also believe that most lawful gun owners whom I have spoken with for many years across our country also want to be sure that we keep those guns out of the wrong hands. And as president, I will work to try to bridge this divide, which I think has been polarizing and, frankly, doesn’t reflect the common sense of the American people. We will strike the right balance to protect the constitutional right but to give people the feeling & the reality that they will be protected from guns in the wrong hands."

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
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Clinton never said she was "pro-gun", but even those who DO say that often mean she is "pro-2nd Amendment", which is a lot different than "pro-gun" in many people's minds.
Hillary is pro-2nd-amendment and pro-more fair and workable gun control, and she pretty much always has been since in politics.
She has never fliflopped on the issue of gun control, has always been for regulations old and new aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals, and she always has supported the 2nd Amendment and responsible, safety-minded owners.
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And that is pretty much her platform now:

"While gun ownership is part of the fabric of many law-abiding communities, too many families in America have suffered from gun violence. About 33,000 Americans are killed by guns each year. That is unacceptable. It is a rebuke to this nation we love.

That’s why Hillary supports sensible action to address gun violence, including comprehensive background checks, cracking down on illegal gun traffickers, holding dealers and manufacturers accountable when they endanger Americans, and keeping guns out of the hands of domestic abusers and stalkers."
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/gun-violence-prevention/
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This is a joke, right? You realize that she has flopped at least twice on POLICY, notwithstanding her empty rhetoric. In 2000, she wanted the most extensive federal registration laws, including photo id licenses and ballistic fingerprinting. She also advocated raising the age for gun ownership to 21. On 2008, she backed away from all of that and said gun laws should be mandated from state to state. In this election she's back to supporting federal regulations but stops short of going as extreme as she did in 2000.
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You're funny. Arguing in circles when many websites from the left and right document her flip flopping on the issue including getting called on it by a fellow democrat during a debate. You prove the truth of the meme. And I thank you for that!
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/12/hillary-clinton-flip-flops-from-2008-positions-in-/?page=all

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/19/martin-omalley/fact-checking-omalleys-claim-hillary-clinton-flips/

Yeah, she flip flops ... a lot.
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again, giving soundbites without context is worthless. then again, you support a woman that defends child rapists by demonizing the victim, so what should i expect, right?

fwiw, here are the facts, and then i'll not waste any more time on you:
June 2000: Clinton endorses a bill introduced by Sen. Schumer that would require licensing and registration for handguns. “I believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing.”

January 2008: Asked during a Democratic presidential debate whether she backed off a national licensing and registration plan, she answered, yes. She literally admitted changing the support of POLICY and you're arguing that she didn't. (wait, it gets better!) (see here: http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm) instead, she said that each state and municipality should address gun laws for the specific issues they face.

in 2015, she has come back to wanting universal background checks on all gun sales, which everyone acknowledges is the prerequisite for a national gun registry. (see same cite)

you can also look at the politifact and wapo articles cited above.
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You use that word "policy" and I don't think you know what it means, lol. It means a COURSE of action, not one law. and she has not changed course-- still is for more regulations and more closing of loopholes, just not THAT particular regulation. So did she flip flop on ONE or two proposed regulations? Sure. Did her stand on the issue/policy /course, direction of her beliefs reverse 180 degrees? no.

Again, as I stated above-- changing her mine on whether to press for a regulation or two is Not a flipflop on the guns issue, lol. A flip flop on the issue would be if she opposed all new regulations and wanted to loosen the laws we have. You know, what the GOP pushed, the 180 degree opposite path. Your meme is shown as false-- if she was a "pro-gun" candidate then (calling her that is , well, bizarre), then she is now also.
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Policy

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a : prudence or wisdom in the management of affairs

b : management or procedure based primarily on material interest

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a : a definite course or method of action selected from among alternatives and in light of given conditions to guide and determine present and future decisions

b : a high-level overall plan embracing the general goals and acceptable procedures especially of a governmental body

Here is a quote from the WashingtonTimes (lol) cite:
"On guns, Mrs. Clinton’s moves have been more a matter of what she’s emphasizing."

and from the Politifact cite:
"In 2000, in the wake of the Columbine school shooting, Clinton was emphatic about her support for gun control. In 2008, she dropped her support for a gun license and registration proposal and positioned herself to the right of her major opponent, Obama. While Clinton also advocated for leaving some gun control to the states, she still advocated for federal gun control efforts, and she never said "we don’t need federal standards."

In 2015, Clinton has been more forceful with her support for gun control than she was in 2008 -- closer to her rhetoric in 2000.

O’Malley has a point that Clinton’s positioning on gun control has shifted between election cycles, but it wasn’t nearly as dramatic as he made it out to be. We rate his claim Half True."
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See, even the cites you point to make my point: she is shifting between how "forceful" she is for more gun control, she has not flipflopped ever -- she has never been AGAINST more gun control.
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NYT, the bastion of liberal journalism, says that hillary labeled herself as the pro-gun candidate in 2008. link previously provided. your argument on semantics is with hillary and the NYT.
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If you'll notice, that was a NYT blogger with HER interpretation of what Hillary said in that debate (of which you linked to a transcript, the ABC link), and Hillary did not say she was "pro-gun, the blogger used that adjective on her own.
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the problem articulated by the meme manifests itself best by your blind defense of clinton's flops. EVERYONE including the NRA members advocates for clinton's 2008 position. she literally said that she wants regulations to keep automatic guns out of the wrong people's hands and to enforce the laws that are on the books. she said that the DC ban was unconstitutional. and she said that each state should determine its own gun laws. she might as well have written the gop playbook. since you won't even rely on the NYT (which shows how laughable engaging you is), here are her words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f0UlPvUfxQ

have fun spinning hillary's words from a video...moron.
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Keep up the ad hominem, that's all you've got, clearly you are either trolling now or just not bothering to read THE LINKS YOU YOURSELF CITE, lol. Go reread that ABCNews link (which is the same as the video you just posted, pretty clueless on your part.and realize how silly you seem basically making stuff up. You are basically making my point for me-- try keeping up instead of clinging desperately to propaganda. here, read the abcnews transcript, again, while realizing that not supporting ALL gun control laws, does not mean one has flip flopped-- she has ALWAYS supported gun control laws that do not infringe on the 2nd amendment, as, like she said, the DC law could possibly be said to by some courts.
Again, the link you posted, the complete transcript that that YT video is a snippet of:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271&page=1
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you're insane. is the NYT liberal enough for you? http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/clinton-portrays-herself-as-a-pro-gun-churchgoer/?_r=2
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Here are the facts in the simplest form, hopefully this will help you understand--
Hillary Clinton's stance on the issue of Guns, Gun Violence reduction, and Gun control:
2001: for fixing the regulations we have and for reasonable new gun control measures that likely would not infringe on the 2nd Amendment but would take guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill, making our society safer

2008: for fixing the regulations we have and for reasonable new gun control measures that likely would not infringe on the 2nd Amendment but would take guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill, making our society safer

2016: for fixing the regulations we have and for reasonable new gun control measures that likely would not infringe on the 2nd Amendment but would take guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill, making our society safer
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...and again, she said she was against federal registration or background checks, except on a state-by-state basis. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271&page=1

she is literally making the same arguments that romney did in supporting romneycare for his home state but not on the national level... a person using your "logic" (and i am using that term VERY generously in applying it to the drivel you're shoveling), would say that romney is actually pro-obamacare. which is stupid.
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Sure, she's "pro-gun" IF by that you mean "pro-2nd-Amendment" and not pro-loosening gun control/pro less regulation of guns. When most people hear "pro-gun" though, they think NRA, the anti-regulations group.

Lol. keep dodging instead of looking at the facts-- you keep bringing up that ONE regulation that she changed her mind on and ignoring that the other cites you had very clearly show that she has never flipped flopped ON THE GUNS ISSUE ITSELF. She has ALWAYS been for more "gun control"/regulations while supporting the 2nd Amendment right-to-bear-arms.

At this point you must be just trolling, lol.
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The bed wetting liberal took it as a veiled threat, which it wasn't, of course.
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