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the founding fathers had it right | IF YOU BLAME THE 2ND AMENDMENT FOR GUN VIOLENCE... JUST REMEMBER THERE IS A REASON ISIS DON'T ATTACK GUN SHOWS | image tagged in 2nd amendment | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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YOU WOULDN'T MESS WITH SOMEONE THAT COULD DEFEND THEMSELF, WOULD YOU PUNK? | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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CHUCK KNOWS ISIS WON'T ATTACK A GUNSHOW.... OR ANYWHERE ELSE THERE IS A SHOW OF GUNS | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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GUN SHOWS...THAT'S THE EASIEST PLACE FOR US TO GET GUNS IN AMERICA | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
You know me...I'm neutral at these functions but to some degree, this is very true, since they are already in our country. Just common sense.
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7 ups
Yup... but where is all the common sense anymore? =)
My last gun meme had such a long thread.. even a mod got in on the comments! Lmao!
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Ancient Aliens Meme | SUICIDE BOMBER | image tagged in memes,ancient aliens | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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GOOD meme! ^
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Mmust resist ... *doesn't
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You're an animal!!! =) I was viper-ized! =)
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Tell you what, go find just 3 guns show sites where they say they allow loaded guns at the show. and count how many you fins that DON'T allow it while looking.

You're in for an awakening.
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6 ups, 1 reply
Lol, I don't have to look anything up. I've been to a few gun shows here in Texas and open carry is encouraged in most gun shows here.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Which shows? And, since you are claiming loaded guns are allowed at most shows, not just in your area, so let us know the names of all of those you know of nationwide that allow loaded guns to be carried in also.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Not really sure what you're trying to prove here. Doesn't matter, because you're wrong. Good day.
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4 ups, 2 replies
So you won't or can't name any. Got it.
Here's a major gun show operator in Georgia:
"No loaded firearms will be allowed on the person or in the possession of any exhibitor (or their employees, etc) within the confines of any Eastman Gun Show. There are no exceptions to this prohibition. "
http://www.eastmangunshows.com/general.asp
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I've been to shows in Georgia, Alabama, and S.Carolina and I think I saw one that posted no guns in possession. And if it isn't posted....:) But, how many do you think are frisked? Trust me, there are LOADED guns at gun shows.
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3 ups, 1 reply
That doesn't say anything about attendees, only exhibitors...like Xzibit...I'll show myself out
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That's just the top of the page, to remind sellers-- here is the rest:
"•No loaded firearms will be permitted in these shows. No personal firearms or loaded magazines or loose ammunition. Immediate rejection from these shows is the rule if you or any member of your party is found with any of these items. No dealer will be allowed to bring into the show a personal weapon. Members of the public can bring into the shows only unloaded firearms and empty clips or magazines. No loose ammunition is allowed at the shows at any time. There is no problem with police officers bringing in a loaded gun. If you’re a police officer and plan to take it out of the holster for any reason other than if necessary in your line of duty please do not bring it in loaded."
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When we go, we aren't far from a loaded weapon. Some you are allowed to have on you. Most people have them in their vehicles. Some dealers have ammo ready. Not a good place to attack lol I feel perfectly safe at these shows and have gone to many.There are also other weapons on tables. Knives, bows etc.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Bonus reading for you:
http://fillyerhands.com/2014/06/30/why-gun-shows-dont-allow-loaded-guns/
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7 ups, 1 reply
LOL! You haven't been to one, have you? You used the word sciolist in another comment ... seems to apply here.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Actually I have, as I've stated below, but clearly you do not know much about them nationwide-- go look at gun show websites, and count how many say they allow loaded guns and how many say they don't. You might learn something.
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9 ups, 1 reply
Sorry. I don't believe you've been to even one. I've been to gun shows in 10 or 12 different states and because my ex brother-in-law was a pawn shop owner with a FFL, I worked many gun shows with him. We both carried, cocked, locked, and ready to rock. 90% of the other pawn shop owners and their employees in those shows did the same. Experience trumps links you find from Google. Every. Time.
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2 ups, 3 replies
Yeah, well I could say the same about you from your claims, lol, except mine are easily backed up by shows websites. Pick a state, find the major showrunner, read up, you will see.

But sure, you've been all over and always carried loaded at every gun show. Post a list of them, we'll wait. And hopefully some are major shows, not these dinky 5-10 dealer affairs. Meanwhile most major shows allow no loaded weapons in at all, other than law enforcement.
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10 ups, 2 replies
You know I dont flame,... but im telling you honestly,.. no matter whats posted or for what reason,... if you have a ccw,... in my state,... you can carry. If you carry a gun in,... for sale or trade,.. unloaded. I have no reason to doubt your website research,... but you have no reason to disbelieve me either,... or anyone else who goes.
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Not sure what you're trying to claim there, seems like you're saying people sneak loaded guns in, but the point is, again, at most gun shows (not all-- there are some rinky-dink shows that don't have anything to lose by getting sued over an accident-- but at most, loaded carry is not allowed no matter what license you have. Sure, you can break the rules and sneak one in, but the rules are still the rules, and most follow them out of respect for the organizers. The only loaded carry allowed at most shows is police, of course.
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Again-- I am not saying ALL, I am saying most. You and others seem to be arguing that since the shows you go to allow loaded carry, all must. I am not arguing just over the three (run by two orgs) I have been to in the last two years, I am looking at nationwide.
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8 ups, 1 reply
You're saying things like "seem to be saying". Maybe dont read into anything? People commented who have been,... you continue to challenge them. Ive been,... you keep challenging the meme. Not sure why.. ?
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No, I am not challenging anyone that says they have been to one that allows loaded guns. I never said they hadn't been to one that allows loaded guns, I said most don't, and people continually keep arguing for some reason, seems some keep imagining that I have said "all". I keep saying most don't, because, well, most don't.
As for the meme-- it's pretty simple too, because its premise and implication is false-- it pretends that terrorists don't attack gun shows because so many people there are allegedly armed-- at most, they are not armed, other than the police there.
Pretty simple ideas, but people seem to be trolling hard tonight and knee-jerking.
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http://www.gunshow.net/safety.htm
http://vpigunshows.com/rules
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http://www.eastmangunshows.com/general.asp
http://www.greatsoutherngunshow.com/index.php?Page=6
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http://www.gunshowtsp.com/gun_show_regulations.php
http://www.crossroadsgunshows.com/faqs.php
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http://www.maacpsse.com/maac.html
http://northfloridagunshows.com/exhibitor-information/ (click blue box for rules)
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But, it is more than the guns, but the caliber of people that are there. The kind that won't give up without a fight...plus, I'm sure some (most) are packing :)
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7 ups, 1 reply
Damn!!!
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7 ups, 1 reply
I searched for "isis scared" and nothing too great came up so then I searched "isis assholes" and this appeared lol
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7 ups, 1 reply
LMAO,!! You could make a meme about the search! "I was not disappointed"!
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Hahaha, I'll try...not sure if this pic will make it past the mods lol
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It's his accent... yeah that's the ticket.
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6 ups
Must... resist... liberal comment...
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3 ups, 1 reply
Cause that's their supplier? ....Kidding. I get it. ????
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3 ups
There is so many comments...! HA ha,.. I don't know which one you replied to! Yikes!
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3 ups, 1 reply
Because there's no reason to attack a gun show? In fact, it'd be pretty easy to walk into a gun show and kill a bunch of people before getting killed yourself, because everybody there has guns =P
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3 ups, 1 reply
exactly,... ! its not a gun free zone that the bad guys like
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I'm sorry, I don't quite see what you're getting at.
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11 ups, 2 replies
Guess what? I believe in the constitution and the 2nd amendment, which does not include restrictions of any kind. If you are not a felon,you should be allowed to own a firearm or any weapon that can protect you from the United States government should they intrude on you constitutional rights.
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9 ups
Its what the founding fathers intended,... =)
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9 ups, 1 reply
Every state requires BGC,.. if buying from a dealer,.. every one. Some states do not have regulations on private sales / transfers. Is that what you're referring to?
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3 ups, 2 replies
About 30 or so states do not require background checks for private sales, so anyone over about 18-21 can sell a legal-to-own gun to anyone over 18-21 within that state.
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11 ups, 2 replies
It's not a free for all,... where a private seller can knowingly sell to a felon or terrorists. And every state restricts firearm ownership to felons... so they are comitting a crime if they purchase,... private deal or no.
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8 ups, 2 replies
Creating more statutes is less effective than simpy enforcing the ones on the books.
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Bingo! Gangbangers and hoods and other thugs get light sentences for illegal weapons posessions. If it was like japan,... and other countries where they got 20 yrs,.... theyd think twice. Godd comment brother!
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2 ups, 1 reply
Nope, not when the ones on the books ARE enforced and don't work much because of loopholes. All they do is increase private gun sales. If ALL gun sales required background checks, then the laws work as intended and as well as possible.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Would you mind identifying these loopholes? Legal terms, references to law etc, not New york times articles please
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2 ups, 3 replies
It's very simple-- background checks are not required for private sales in 30+ states. There can usually be no reference to laws because there are none-- background checks are NOT required for private sales in those states. Some may specifically exclude private sales, some may just not mention them at all.
trying to deny the loophole exists would be, well, just silly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole
7 ups
You keep using the word loophole. That is generally used when there is a current law in place that is being taken advantage of.

And I don't educate myself with wikipedia, but thanks all the same..
7 ups
Lol.. Stop trolling. First you say there is a loophole in the law, then you say no law. Then you provide a definition contradicting your statement that there are no laws. Seriously, just stop trolling the meme already you're cluttering the thread..
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Loophole
1.an ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules

To deny the existence of what is commonly referred to as the "gun show / private seller loophole" concerning background checks would be just silly.
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It kind of is a free for all, because private sellers have no idea if the person buying from them is a felon or terrorist, without background checks there's no "knowing". The point of background checks is to maker it harder for them to get guns, not to charge them later, maybe, if they're caught.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Hmmm, I must have deleted instead of posting. Forgive me on new. However the assertion that laws are enforced is false. The prosecution numbers on a federal level has dropped quite a bit. In the last year.
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2 ups, 3 replies
Link to stats?
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Washington post Dec 31 2015
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5 ups, 2 replies
http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/crim/307/include/weaponspros.html
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Btw. Those Trac reports are from different fy.
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2 ups, 2 replies
That doesn't really bolster your assertion-- 2012 is about 1800 less than the peak in 2004 BUT is 3100 higher than 1999. Just from looking at those numbers they are way too variable to read any trends in laws not being enforced. And it kind of goes counter to NRA claims that this administration is trying to get rid of gun ownership.
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5 ups, 1 reply
This year has a 15% drop in persecutions. I'm not your librarian feel free to look at any of the years tracs or ho to the DOJ and look yourself.
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2 ups
Year to year doesn't mean much in such data-- it's trends that matter, and it's all still much more than the mid '90s. If anything, if I had to guess, by the years and massive increases after the '90s I would say it more shows how the Brady Bill may have increased prosecutions but then modifications in the mid 2000s decreased them.

But then, this doesn't really have much to do either way with the fact that the background check loophole renders the law ineffective in about 30+ states.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Don't add a red herring. I've made no claims to the NRAs stance nor do I necessarily agree to there positions. My position is simple. They should enforce existing laws..they aren't. However, I do admire your doggedness and civility you bring.
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2 ups, 2 replies
WE are talking about background check laws, however, and they are enforced rigidly (ask any guns store owner) where they extend, but the problem is that they contain a giant loophole in about 30 states that renders enforcement nigh meaningless-- any felon or terrorist can easily buy guns in those states from private sellers.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Links. I'd like to read what you are. I'm all about all sides. Honest
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I assumed you knew about the "gun show/private seller loophole", since I assumed wrongly here is a place to start if you are new to the idea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole
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You did assume wrongly. I was just asking for your sources or source as it appears.
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http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/crim/409/
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4 ups, 1 reply
I think you're going to be a good addition. Nice exchange.
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4 ups, 1 reply
It's all fun. You'll note none of the incidents in the loophole wiki are loophole results.
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"Loophole" = the other guy's "parts of a law I don't like."
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blame 2nd amendment or isis
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1 up, 1 reply
ISIS don't use guns they use bombs. And I think Americans shoot more Americans than ISIS do? Unfortunately, America will never be free of guns, no matter who ever tries to change the law. There's far too many in circulation and it would just create a huge black market.
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America has a 2nd Amendment,... and I hope we always have guns. I agree that any confiscation attampt would create a black market,.. there is already a big one with illegal gun owners.
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I'm just glad that we don't have guns in the UK. They achieve nothing but death. A school boy stabbed another and killed him. If he had a gun there wold probably have been 20 to 40 dead school kids!
We don't have ISIS attacks in the UK either.
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They "should?" If ISIL was living in this century and not 1400 yrs ago... they wouldn't attack anything or anybody... would they?
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It's not the gun show that forbids concealed / open carry,... it's state laws. I live in GA... we are allowed to conceal carry or open carry at gun shows. =)
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2 ups, 2 replies
Many guns shows do not allow loaded guns inside even in open-carry states. But in either case it defeats the assertion of the meme.
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10 ups, 1 reply
I'm in the south,... we allow loaded guns almost everywhere... gun shows included.
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1 up, 1 reply
Yeah, "almost"-- except many or perhaps most guns shows DO NOT allow loaded guns. Go look at the shows sites, many will NOT allow open carry even in states were it's legal. I've been to three in the past two years, not one allowed loaded open carry even for those licensed, and one even required zip ties through the chamber to carry unloaded. Here's just one company with shows in GA that does not allow it--
"No loaded firearms will be allowed on the person or in the possession of any exhibitor (or their employees, etc) within the confines of any Eastman Gun Show. There are no exceptions to this prohibition. "
http://www.eastmangunshows.com/general.asp
So, yeah, the meme is false, no matter how many people say "yeah, so true!"... as anyone who says that has clearly not been to many guns shows, lol.
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4 ups, 1 reply
From where I live, they actually do allow loaded guns in gun shows. You either live in a country where guns are outright banned, or you live in the United States in a region with heavy gun restrictions.
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You are wrong on both counts, I'm in the USA in a state with licensed open carry (like Texas, but not Texas). Post a link to the websites of these guns shows which allow loaded open carry (whether licensing state or not).
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7 ups, 1 reply
You didn't read the meme, did you? Please name one instance where ISIS attacked a gun show and provide links. Otherwise, the meme isn't defeated.
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1 up, 2 replies
Actually, if you understood the claim the meme is making, you would understand that that claim is false-- at most guns shows, no one is carrying around a loaded weapon other than the cops at the entrance who are checking to be sure no one is carrying a loaded weapon.
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5 ups, 1 reply
And there are tens of thousands of rounds just sitting on tables ... keep believing what you're shoveling. It's really funny.
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1 up, 1 reply
Sure, keep on imagining that they don't attack guns show because people are all walking around with loaded guns. Here's a hint-- they don't attack gun shows because most have armed police a the front securing the entrance and checking everyone for loaded weapons. Kind of like they don't shoot up anywhere that's on the other side of stringent security. has nothing to do with it being a guns show-- it has to do with attacking non-policed areas.
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6 ups, 2 replies
You're cracking me up! LOL!
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7 ups, 2 replies
Ignore him this dude is basing his arguments off of wikipedia articles and google xD #InternetLawyer
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5 ups, 3 replies
There's peeps here who have been to gun shows,... and he's choosing the misinformation route!
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Kinda weird, right?
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It comes down to people not reading carefully (not you,, others), and several trolling along with nonsense (anyone who imagines that there is not a "gunshow / private seller loophole" in the background check laws in many states is either trolling or ignorant of the facts).
I never said that all guns shows ban loaded guns. I never said people don't sneak loaded handguns into shows that do ban loaded. But like it or not, most, including Eastman in Georgia (10+ shows this year), ban loaded weapons at their shows. If you have been to one of their shows and carried in a loaded weapon, that is breaking the rules, and does not negate that it is a rule. They state it emphatically and clearly at their site:
"•No loaded firearms will be permitted in these shows. No personal firearms or loaded magazines or loose ammunition. Immediate rejection from these shows is the rule if you or any member of your party is found with any of these items. No dealer will be allowed to bring into the show a personal weapon. Members of the public can bring into the shows only unloaded firearms and empty clips or magazines. No loose ammunition is allowed at the shows at any time. There is no problem with police officers bringing in a loaded gun. If you’re a police officer and plan to take it out of the holster for any reason other than if necessary in your line of duty please do not bring it in loaded."

But hey, I will give your meme a break-- we can just assume that most terrorists are stupid and that they wrongly assume there are lots of people walking around inside every gun show with loaded weapons.
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No, you and several others are either not reading correctly (again-- I said most, not all, do not allow loaded carry). Just because you've been to a show where they allow it does not mean all do. Most do not, per their own gun show websites, which you guys strangely seem to think is "misinformation", lol.

More likely you're all just bored and trolling. If not let me know your area, I'll pick out some shows there and you can try to carry a loaded weapon in, lol.
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1 up, 3 replies
Says the guy who bizarrely pretends that there is no private seller loophole, lol.
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Had to reply down here.. i don't doubt you that their website say that no loaded guns allowed.. maybe for a legal disclaimer in case there was a shooting? But I have been to Eastman gunshows.. i never go alone.. always with a few buddies... always armed as well. Appreciate your research on it! =)
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I saw everyone tell you their arena,... I did. you were asked,... so where are you located? I do not doubt there are gunshows in some gun anal states,... or in areas that have different laws / rules / charters,... that do not allow loaded weapons. However,... I have been to gun shows in my state of GA,.. of which I am a CCW holder,.. and have worn on my side, a loaded firearm. . as did many in side the show. As an aside,... I have never in my life been to a gunshow,.. where 10's of thousands of rounds of all types of ammo were being sold... as are high capacity magazines for various firearms. That being said,.. if a cretin terrorist cell attempted to their cult of death at a gun show,... they wouyld be cut in half with bullets in my state. I don't care what website you have looked at,.. I don't disbelieve there are websites that say "no loaded firearms allowed inside the premises". What I do disbelieve, because I have been to GA state gunshows,... is that no loaded firearms are allowed. In my state,.. we get a BGC,.. so we all start out as law abiding responsible pr 2nd amendment legal carry citizens,... which are allowed to carry in almost ANY facility,... to include establishments that sell alcohol,.. and gunshows. All your links to websites will change what I know,... or other users know who have attended a gunshow in their state where they have carried. Some may ban weapons... I have no knowledge of that since I have never in my adult life been to a show where I was unable to carry my loaded firearm. I carry every day... I remove it to go into government buildings that forbid it. It seems you are working hard to discredit the meme somehow,... and I am unsure why. If you don't agree with it,.. nor like it,.. why didn't you just ignore it? My rule of thumb for any political / religious / or philosophical meme that I don't agree with is: "If I don't agree, I let it be". I let the users that identify with it comment and enjoy wothout trying to rain down on their parade. If you noticed,... even though you continued to doubt that I attended a gunshow with a CCW and loaded firearm... I upvoted each comment you made because I respected your opinion,.. even if I disagreed with what you were saying. I feel if you take the time to comment and make a poiint in a respectful manner,.. its worth the UV. Users who are assclowns and rude,.. I neither UV or comment back.
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Most gun shows do not allow loaded weapons (other than of course law enforcement). Simple statement of provable fact.
Here's a list to get those who are honestly trying to learn something started, several of these are major showrunners who put on many shows in multiple states, and Eastman is in Georgia:
http://www.gunshow.net/safety.htm
http://vpigunshows.com/rules
http://www.eastmangunshows.com/general.asp
http://www.greatsoutherngunshow.com/index.php?Page=6
http://www.gunshowtsp.com/gun_show_regulations.php
http://www.crossroadsgunshows.com/faqs.php
http://www.maacpsse.com/maac.html
http://northfloridagunshows.com/exhibitor-information/ (click blue box for rules)
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Dude, you can imagine that whatever shows you allegedly did were the norm (although i'm guessing they were tiny), but , nope, lol. Go study up, you may learn something. Wallowing in ignorance will get you nowhere. Read up on shows nationwide and learn a little something.
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7 ups, 3 replies
BWAHAHA! "Read up" "Learn something" BWAHAHA! How about attend 40 to 50 shows in multiple states as a vendor and find out the truth? That's what I did. Reality doesn't always match Wikipedia.

Just because you can find something to match your firmly held beliefs on the Internet doesn't mean it's true. Become a gun show vendor and you'll find out the truth ... regardless of what Google tells you.
5 ups
Lol I bet he was the one who write the wiki article lmao.. Probably cited NYT and Obama's gun control speeches as his sources LOL!
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Oh, I forgot ... you're the "link king." If you can find a link to it, it HAS to be true ... after all, it's on the Internet. While you bescumber us with your link finding skills, the rest of us are out experiencing in the real world.
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Dude, you don't seem to understand the definition of "most"... great, you've been to guns shows which allegedly allow people to carry loaded weapons around. That does not negate the fact that most do not. Pretending that the GUN SHOWS OWN SITES are not "true" is just bizarre. Stop attacking a strawman-- no one said "ALL guns shows don't allow loaded weapons", and no one said people couldn't break the rules and sneak a loaded weapon in the ones that don't allow it.
Read carefully:
Most gun shows do not allow loaded weapons (other than of course law enforcement). Simple statement of provable fact.
Here's a list to get you started, several of these are major showrunners who put on many shows in multiple states:
http://www.gunshow.net/safety.htm
http://vpigunshows.com/rules
http://www.eastmangunshows.com/general.asp
http://www.greatsoutherngunshow.com/index.php?Page=6
http://www.gunshowtsp.com/gun_show_regulations.php
http://www.crossroadsgunshows.com/faqs.phphttp://www.maacpsse.com/maac.html
http://northfloridagunshows.com/exhibitor-information/ (click blue box for rules)
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I've never been to a tiny gunshow. They attract mega pro 2nd amendment gun toters. You must live in a state that has backyard gunshows bro... i don't
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5 ups, 1 reply
True in the PAC NW. We have to clear and zip tie.
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4 ups, 1 reply
That said it speaks to one state.
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It's not a state by state issue, nor a state law issue in most cases, it's a gunshowrunners' issue, and most just do not allow loaded guns. Several people on here (not you) seem to be attacking the strawman idea that I said no shows allow loaded guns in, when clearly I said "most" repeatedly from the start. Here is just a small list, and several of these are major showrunners, running 10+ shows a year in single or multiple states:
http://www.gunshow.net/safety.htm
http://vpigunshows.com/rules
http://www.eastmangunshows.com/general.asp
http://www.greatsoutherngunshow.com/index.php?Page=6
http://www.gunshowtsp.com/gun_show_regulations.php
http://www.crossroadsgunshows.com/faqs.php
http://www.maacpsse.com/maac.html
http://northfloridagunshows.com/exhibitor-information/ (click blue box for rules)
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5 ups, 2 replies
What the showd can our cannot do is based on what the state allows within the framework of law. From that. The showd can choose how they manage their attendees as long as it is run within the rules of law set by that state and the Fed. They may *gasp* even choose to exceed the limitations set forth and maintain stricter rules in order to offset liability, etc.
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Why are my fingers too big to type on a phone? Why!?
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"They may *gasp* even choose to exceed the limitations set forth and maintain stricter rules in order to offset liability, etc."
Exactly :) , and most do that, by banning loaded firearms within the show (other than LEOs).
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offsetting liability,... is another meme,... I agree. But in a looser gun law state like mine,... not as big of an issue I don't think. (invicta103 hereby uses "I don't think" to offset any liability) =)
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